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This is from a year ago and this guy seemed pretty much on point.  Do you guys agree with the premise that our offense, most notably our personnel groupings, make us far too predictable?

 

The Atlanta Falcons can’t decide who they want to be. With the addition of Luke Stocker, a tight end who specializes in run blocking, the Falcons are becoming more and more transparent. The Falcons offense suffered last season by being too easy for defenses to read.

It was obvious to teams what a passing formation was for the Atlanta Falcons, and same goes for their running formations. The offense will continue to struggle with the same problem this season.

Last season, the Falcons were too transparent on offense. The opposing defenses knew Atlanta was running the ball when Logan Paulsen was in the game. And when Austin Hooper was in the game, it was a passing down. Paulsen was targeted 9 times all last season while playing in 15. Hooper was targeted 88 times in 16 games. With Paulsen exiting, Stocker will be the new run blocking option. This is going to cause the same issue for the offense this season. If the Falcons are too one dimensional to get a solid season from the offense, this team is going to struggle to find success. This issue falls onto Dan Quinn’s lap. His lack of involvement with the offense could be the thing to doom his tenure with the Falcons.

It’s no secret that Dan Quinn has no interest in the offense. He’s made this obvious since the day he got hired. When he came in, Quinn hired Kyle Shanahan to run the offense the way he wanted to run it. Quinn would have no say over in any play-calling or schemes, even if that meant not overriding the coach when he called a pass when a run would have sealed the biggest game of Quinn’s coaching life. Quinn’s next choice, after Shanahan was hired away, Steve Sarkisian, was an issue out of the gate. Sark never could get the offense humming as it did under Shanahan, and he was fired after two seasons. New offensive coordinator, and former, Dirk Koetter, is back with the team.

It’s unknown what he will be able to achieve with this offense, but he has had prior success with Matt Ryan, so there is some hope. Dan Quinn has put himself into a position where he had to get this hire right. This feels like Quinn’s last opportunity to get it right. Quinn struck gold by hiring Shanahan to run the offense but struck out big time with Sarkisian. Koetter is Quinn’s last hope.

Dan Quinn has made a lot of mistakes as the Falcons head coach, but none feel bigger than neglecting the offense. When Quinn showed in Atlanta, the defense was in shambles. He drafted well, signed the right players, and made smart moves on that side of the ball. And now, the defense is a lot better than what he had when first hired. However, the offense is what led Atlanta to the most successful season under Quinn.

It feels like a waste of talent and time to let players like Matt Ryan and Julio Jones have to deal with so much turnover and change. The offense, as constructed today, is good enough to carry this team back to the Super Bowl, but with bad coaching and telepathic play-calling is going to doom this team to more and more letdowns. It’s frustrating to watch so much talent be used in the wrong way.

Maybe I’m being a little too hard on Dan Quinn. It’s a gamble every time a new coach is hired. You don’t know if the team is going to get Kyle Shanahan or Steve Sarkisian. It’s all up in the air. But I do blame Quinn for not having at least a philosophy for his offensive strategy. Quinn has been incredibly blessed with a lot of success during his tenure with Atlanta, but that’s mostly due to the infrastructure that was in place when he was hired. Matt Ryan, Julio Jones, and Devonta Freeman were already in the building when Quinn was hired.

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This is why I started a thread some time ago about how we always run when Ryan is under center.  There are a dozen or more things this offense is doing to telegraph the play.  The next most obvious is how Ryan sticks his arm out as soon as he gets the ball and holds it there until the back grabs it.  No fake, no deception, just another obvious run play.

This board was not interested and let me know it.  My goodness, this is so obvious.  We have to fix this if we want a winning season.

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15 minutes ago, NaGaBoy said:

This is why I started a thread some time ago about how we always run when Ryan is under center.  There are a dozen or more things this offense is doing to telegraph the play.  The next most obvious is how Ryan sticks his arm out as soon as he gets the ball and holds it there until the back grabs it.  No fake, no deception, just another obvious run play.

This board was not interested and let me know it.  My goodness, this is so obvious.  We have to fix this if we want a winning season.

You are on the right course, but not fully right. Those plays work, but they're not fooling anyone when your pass/run is like 70/30. Factor in that no one sees Ryan as a threat to run, which causes defenses to get into man coverage. Even in those situations, the coaching is so bad that adjustments are not made.

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47 minutes ago, kiwifalcon said:

But I heard TDs the issue.

The article says it well how can you be a HC and have zero interest in the side of the ball that’s been built to carry the team.

Crap coaching choices to run and use the talent available.

Oh well this is the DQs put up shut up.

I think Quinn reads a dummy card sheet when talking bout offense.  Similar to Sark when he was HC at USC who openly admitted he had no interest in defense or ST and as such didn’t attend the meetings.

When coach says we will be balanced and explosive and we finish the year bottom of the barrel in both areas, it’s a problem.  As a Director I learned to inspect what you expect from your employees.  I’m not certain Quinn does so on the offensive side of the ball

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4 hours ago, kiwifalcon said:

But I heard TDs the issue.

The article says it well how can you be a HC and have zero interest in the side of the ball that’s been built to carry the team.

Crap coaching choices to run and use the talent available.

Oh well this is the DQs put up shut up.

It’s as if DQ (and everyone else) blv that our talent on Offense will carry us regardless of coaching/scheme.  Not so,it’s the NFL and most teams have a certain adequate level of talent to compete. Coaching makes or breaks any team/scheme.  Yes, talent makes it much easier to coach but how your talent is deployed makes or breaks any unit on any team.  I hope DQ has spent the off-season reviewing personnel/scheme/situational gameplanning and management w DK and that theyre all in same page.  I tend to blv your offensive and defensive philosophies should complement each offense. From what I’ve seen if DQs D, you better either keep chains moving and eat clock consistently or score  every time you Touch the ball.  We rarely dominate on D.  

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6 hours ago, BUBBASBEANS said:

It’s as if DQ (and everyone else) blv that our talent on Offense will carry us regardless of coaching/scheme.  Not so,it’s the NFL and most teams have a certain adequate level of talent to compete. Coaching makes or breaks any team/scheme.  Yes, talent makes it much easier to coach but how your talent is deployed makes or breaks any unit on any team.  I hope DQ has spent the off-season reviewing personnel/scheme/situational gameplanning and management w DK and that theyre all in same page.  I tend to blv your offensive and defensive philosophies should complement each offense. From what I’ve seen if DQs D, you better either keep chains moving and eat clock consistently or score  every time you Touch the ball.  We rarely dominate on D.  

I do believe this has an element of truth.  Especially on offense, when we win a given play it’s usually less about scheme and more about our Julio beat your CB1/Safety bracket, or Ridley beat CB2....just don’t see as many plays where a guy is wide open due to our coaches outsmarting their DC

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10 hours ago, Faithful Falcon said:

You are on the right course, but not fully right. Those plays work, but they're not fooling anyone when your pass/run is like 70/30. Factor in that no one sees Ryan as a threat to run, which causes defenses to get into man coverage. Even in those situations, the coaching is so bad that adjustments are not made.

This same “immobile” QB managed to deceive every defense when Shanny wad the OC.

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8 hours ago, kiwifalcon said:

Teams don’t have to defend the whole field when defending our offense we don’t run the ball well we don’t stretch the field horizontally to get the vertical shots that this teams OC is reknown for.

Hence you get predictable and easy to defend.

The running the ball part is baffling, and has been beat to death..... But come on!. Over Ryans career he excels when he has a running game; so of course, we bring in DK and build a pass happy team. 

 I really dont have high hopes for next season. I want to; but Im really in "prove it" mode. The win now mode we have been in for years has caught up 

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11 hours ago, BUBBASBEANS said:

It’s as if DQ (and everyone else) blv that our talent on Offense will carry us regardless of coaching/scheme.  Not so,it’s the NFL and most teams have a certain adequate level of talent to compete. Coaching makes or breaks any team/scheme.  Yes, talent makes it much easier to coach but how your talent is deployed makes or breaks any unit on any team.  I hope DQ has spent the off-season reviewing personnel/scheme/situational gameplanning and management w DK and that theyre all in same page.  I tend to blv your offensive and defensive philosophies should complement each offense. From what I’ve seen if DQs D, you better either keep chains moving and eat clock consistently or score  every time you Touch the ball.  We rarely dominate on D.  

It does explain the inconsistency and why they can’t marry together all 3 phases.

Complimentary Football that’s all on the HC right there that’s his job for the most part.

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2 hours ago, revrndzombie said:

The running the ball part is baffling, and has been beat to death..... But come on!. Over Ryans career he excels when he has a running game; so of course, we bring in DK and build a pass happy team. 

 I really dont have high hopes for next season. I want to; but Im really in "prove it" mode. The win now mode we have been in for years has caught up 

I’m in this camp too.

Im at this point with our coaches it’s like:shrug: whatever man.

I’ve also been on the mentioned for the last 2-3 years watching incompetent use of talent poor situational decision making on and off field decisions who who there hiring.Poor use of FA which ties the FO in.

For me the DQ coached Falcons have lost there way and are fumbling around looking for answers.Oh well it’ll be over soon one way or the other.

I have lost confidence in the man myself hence the whatever attitude towards it all.Worse thing is we got a team that can do some damage but through thee above mentioned yeah just yeah.

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Who was that DB that said he could tell when Julio was the number 1 target because of him adjusting his gloves and such when he came out of the huddle? I think it is stupid tells like that that our coaching staff never caught that make us transparent. Don't teams review film to look for things like that? Apparently we don't.

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5 hours ago, FalconsIn2012 said:

I do believe this has an element of truth.  Especially on offense, when we win a given play it’s usually less about scheme and more about our Julio beat your CB1/Safety bracket, or Ridley beat CB2....just don’t see as many plays where a guy is wide open due to our coaches outsmarting their DC

I agree.  That was exactly what I was thinking too.  Probably didn’t say it as plainly. 

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1 hour ago, kiwifalcon said:

It does explain the inconsistency and why they can’t marry together all 3 phases.

Complimentary Football that’s all on the HC right there that’s his job for the most part.

Yes and that was to me the most inexplicable part (for me at least) last season.....before training camp all we heard/read was how DQ, DK, Knapp etc we’re spending all this time around the table having all of these epiphanies where they’d all of a sudden look at each other and smile over some new idea or the proverbial “lightbulb having gone off” re a concept etc.......I just knew they were going to be playing some serious complimentary football......then season began and it was like they never met except passing each other on way to field on game day.  I realize it’s somewhat of a dead horse by now but I’m sure hoping whatever they were doing is revised significantly.  This absolutely must be resolved. 

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1 hour ago, kiwifalcon said:

I’m in this camp too.

Im at this point with our coaches it’s like:shrug: whatever man.

I’ve also been on the mentioned for the last 2-3 years watching incompetent use of talent poor situational decision making on and off field decisions who who there hiring.Poor use of FA which ties the FO in.

For me the DQ coached Falcons have lost there way and are fumbling around looking for answers.Oh well it’ll be over soon one way or the other.

I have lost confidence in the man myself hence the whatever attitude towards it all.Worse thing is we got a team that can do some damage but through thee above mentioned yeah just yeah.

All of this!

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