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I wish this young man the best. As someone who has played and coached the game I saw a very raw player with a ton of talent who needed a veteran leader to help him. The last couple of years I saw a frustrated player who, in my opinion, seemed to be losing faith in the coaches and probably was becoming a issue in the locker room with his attitude. I hope he get his head screwed back on straight wherever he may land. I agree with posters from earlier thread that said the end all be all for Vic was not showing to work out with a coach that is offering to help you, that is letting a agent run your life and put you in bad situations. 

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I just don't know how much plainer it can be, when your coach offers to help you, a coach that is a defensive line coach, that has worked with some of the best in football at Seattle and university of Florida and you ghost him. Especially after he went to bat for you to get you a contract you didn't deserve and you ghost him. That sends the wrong message. Quinn put it all in for VB, he considered VB another Lawrence Taylor type player and VB basically used him. I hope the next franchise that gets him takes this into consideration before signing him. Wish him the best but seen the true colors. 

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21 minutes ago, Refried Beans said:

I just don't know how much plainer it can be, when your coach offers to help you, a coach that is a defensive line coach, that has worked with some of the best in football at Seattle and university of Florida and you ghost him. Especially after he went to bat for you to get you a contract you didn't deserve and you ghost him. That sends the wrong message. Quinn put it all in for VB, he considered VB another Lawrence Taylor type player and VB basically used him. I hope the next franchise that gets him takes this into consideration before signing him. Wish him the best but seen the true colors. 

This definitely.

DQ even mentioned he was disappointed publicly.

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2 hours ago, athell said:

This needed it's own thread why?

didn't pay attention to who wrote it did ya.....

 

:lol:

 

 

and OP, there is absolutely NO foundation to anything about  Vic being any 'problem' or 'issue' in the locker room. Why even make up crap like that and post it? Vic, while not being what we'd all hoped for as a ball player, is a straight up solid dude, just don't even try with this garbage

 

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3 minutes ago, papachaz said:

didn't pay attention to who wrote it did ya.....

 

:lol:

 

 

and OP, there is absolutely NO foundation to anything about  Vic being any 'problem' or 'issue' in the locker room. Why even make up crap like that and post it? Vic, while not being what we'd all hoped for as a ball player, is a straight up solid dude, just don't even try with this garbage

 

Your opinion is as accurate as his since neither of you know him personally. 

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15 hours ago, papachaz said:

didn't pay attention to who wrote it did ya.....

 

:lol:

 

 

and OP, there is absolutely NO foundation to anything about  Vic being any 'problem' or 'issue' in the locker room. Why even make up crap like that and post it? Vic, while not being what we'd all hoped for as a ball player, is a straight up solid dude, just don't even try with this garbage

 

I am not looking for a debate.  But, as frustrating as Refried Beans has been to me at times, he is completely accurate regarding DQ's offer to personally train VB and was shunned.  I remember DQ saying that at the end of training, VB would love him or hate him.  VB then did not show for OTAs and stated that he was training elsewhere.  I was quite surprised the Falcons allowed him to play for another season.  I would have cut his *** the minute he showed up in FB.  But, I am a disciplinarian.  I believe in structure. 

It seems that every time a player trains elsewhere, that is followed by a disappointing season,  I no longer believe a player is training when they say they are training anywhere but FB. 

I have no proof VB was a problem in the locker room.  However, you have all seen the photo of VB standing in the tunnel during the game.  Let's just call it moderate circumstantial evidence and we can each have our own opinion. 

I played football in school.  As I got older, the concept of team sports began to mean something to me.  I know what it means.  If you listen to the words of Falcon players, they all understand team sports.  They verbalize the concept of brotherhood.  But, VB's actions remind me of these words, "When a person shows you who they are, believe them".

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