Draft Philosophy

[FalconsIn2012]

In the TD era the Falcons have always opted to move up in the first round. In fact, he has never moved back in the first round to accumulate additional top 100 pics. Oddly, with the exception does Matt Ryan and Julio Jones, our best selections have been in rounds two through five. Trading up for Baker, Takk, and trufant all have shown to be unwise waste of draft capital. Not that the players aren't good, but the cost was too much.

So what is your preference this year?

[youngbloodz]

Trade up for Simmons in this scenario 

[FalconsIn2012]

1 minute ago, youngbloodz said:

Trade up for Simmons in this scenario 

The players are irrelevant in this question... I am asking more draft philosophy.

I honestly doubt Simmons will be available at 8 which is where I'd have us moving up

[dirtybirds233]

Stick with what we have and take front seven on all three 1st/2nd round picks. Outside of Debo and Grady, our entire front 7 needs to be redone, we don't need to trade up.

[youngbloodz]

8 minutes ago, FalconsIn2012 said:

The players are irrelevant in this question... I am asking more draft philosophy.

I honestly doubt Simmons will be available at 8 which is where I'd have us moving up

My philosophy is always to trade down unless you’re in love with a prospect. I would trade up for Simmons though. 

[thajames]

If historically we've done good work in the middle rounds it would be a great idea to gain a player or 2 in that range on rookie deals....that's a GREAT way to get out of cap ****.

[FalconsIn2012]

5 minutes ago, youngbloodz said:

My philosophy is always to trade down unless you’re in love with a prospect. I would trade up for Simmons though. 

My biggest issue with trade up is injury risk.  Baker, Julio, Takk, Trufant, Neal & Lindstrom are all first round picks that missed significant playing time.  It's such a risk

[FalconFanSince1970]

Clear cap space, sign proven vets to fill gaping holes, stay put or trade down to add draft capital and go BPA in every round regardless of position.

[youngbloodz]

32 minutes ago, FalconsIn2012 said:

My biggest issue with trade up is injury risk.  Baker, Julio, Takk, Trufant, Neal & Lindstrom are all first round picks that missed significant playing time.  It's such a risk

Definitely a risk no doubt 

[Osiruz]

I rather have Swift or Murray in this case. A 1st and 2 2nds for Simmons is very rich. 

[pearljamnash13]

I think we should stay right where we are. We can get a pretty good player at 16, keep them for 5 years on the cheap, and we have two second round picks who are still much better potential picks than later rounds than the third we can have for four years. Then we can fill depth and special teams the rest of the draft and hopefully find a diamond in the rough like Oluokun.

[FalconsIn2012]

11 minutes ago, Osiruz said:

I rather have Swift or Murray in this case. A 1st and 2 2nds for Simmons is very rich. 

It is..   to put it into context

Option 1:. Simmons.  No second round picks

Option 3:. Draft Murray or Swift along with three second round picks

I love Simmons but I'll go option 3

[Vandy]

All this TAFT love for Simmons reminds me a lot of how it was in here with Haason Reddick a few drafts ago.

Stay put. If the 2-3 guys you wanted at 16 are gone, trade down. God knows this team could use more depth.

[Smiler11]

Option E please

[Butudontseeme™]

Stay put or trade back. If they get another 2nd rounder, they suddenly have a mich better shot at adding 3 starters like AB wants and gathering some playmakers. 

[FalconsIn2012]

45 minutes ago, Vandy said:

All this TAFT love for Simmons reminds me a lot of how it was in here with Haason Reddick a few drafts ago.

Stay put. If the 2-3 guys you wanted at 16 are gone, trade down. God knows this team could use more depth.

While Simmons is a more established prospect, the analogy of riddick is spot-on.

[FalconFanSince1969]

2 hours ago, FalconFanSince1970 said:

Clear cap space, sign proven vets to fill gaping holes, stay put or trade down to add draft capital and go BPA in every round regardless of position.

You'd be the first one to cry when we draft a wr and wr will be bpa the majority of rounds in this draft.

[NWFALCON]

Votes to move back but I’m not taking Swift. 

[Vandy]

9 minutes ago, NWFALCON said:

Votes to move back but I’m not taking Swift. 

Ditto

[kiwifalcon]

3 hours ago, FalconsIn2012 said:

The players are irrelevant in this question... I am asking more draft philosophy.

I honestly doubt Simmons will be available at 8 which is where I'd have us moving up

Just don’t know I’ve seen mocks with Simmons going as low as 5 to as high as 10. I think he’ll end up in that 5-10 range depending on how many QB strapped teams like what they see.

Right now Love and the Oregon kid could quite be on the move up which is good for Simmons falling in range.

[falconsd56]

1 hour ago, FalconFanSince1969 said:

You'd be the first one to cry when we draft a wr and wr will be bpa the majority of rounds in this draft.

He was pumping up Hopkins as the best player in the 2013 draft and said that we should have gotten him instead of Tru......we would have had to trade up for him but some how that was ok.

[Vandy]

3 minutes ago, falconsd56 said:

He was pumping up Hopkins as the best player in the 2013 draft and said that we should have gotten him instead of Tru......we would have had to trade up for him but some how that was ok.

Interesting. So Hopkins doesn’t meet the ‘Shiny Hood Ornament’ criteria?

[FalconFanSince1969]

2 hours ago, FalconsIn2012 said:

It is..   to put it into context

Option 1:. Simmons.  No second round picks

Option 3:. Draft Murray or Swift along with three second round picks

I love Simmons but I'll go option 3

I highly doubt a move up for Simmons would cost us both seconds. We can get up to the 7-8 range with just one and I would hope we wouldn't be willing to go any higher than that.

[falconsd56]

8 minutes ago, Vandy said:

Interesting. So Hopkins doesn’t meet the ‘Shiny Hood Ornament’ criteria?

Only if it means trying to sound smarter than TD

[falconsd56]

As far as the question.......it depends.

The draft is such an interesting thing because the miss rate is so high.

 

If you can trade back and get an extra 2 or 3 good players...awesome

But is that a guarantee?not really

 

On the flip side is one truly dominate player who can make a unit better worth it??