Ergo Proxy 25,548 Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 3 hours ago, JD dirtybird21 said: The team just always prioritizes it’s own players. I think the team is going to franchise Hooper and he’ll have a new deal by camp. Or franchise him and trade or remove tag if we can’t trade him? Question: Would Falcons posture by tagging him and then get offered; say, a 2nd rounder this year? As of now, the Falcons haven’t committed to anyone verbally ahead of FA. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sandtrap 2,345 Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 2 hours ago, red falcon said: They are way too loyal to players. I think they forget its a business. Had we won a super bowl probably none of this would matter. What exactly do you not like about these particular resignings? I would argue that the vast majority of them were good resignings. Good: Ryan Julio Matthews Grady Debo Questionable: Trufant Freeman (Coming off the super bowl run and the season he had it would be hard to argue against it but I didn't like the signing because I felt we were overpaying for the previous seasons work) Rings and Vandy 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JD dirtybird21 22,111 Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 16 minutes ago, Schwarzwald said: Or franchise him and trade or remove tag if we can’t trade him? Question: Would Falcons posture by tagging him and then get offered; say, a 2nd rounder this year? As of now, the Falcons haven’t committed to anyone verbally ahead of FA. @ya_boi_j ya_boi_j 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ya_boi_j 64,400 Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 6 minutes ago, JD dirtybird21 said: @ya_boi_j Told ya, based on what I read yesterday the tag was not an option. I wish I could find it so you wouldn’t think I was full of **** lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Francis York Morgan 24,720 Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 32 minutes ago, Schwarzwald said: Or franchise him and trade or remove tag if we can’t trade him? Question: Would Falcons posture by tagging him and then get offered; say, a 2nd rounder this year? As of now, the Falcons haven’t committed to anyone verbally ahead of FA. Agree with tagging Hoop to trade, but that tweet doesn't seem trustworthy at all. Ergo Proxy 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JD dirtybird21 22,111 Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 8 minutes ago, ya_boi_j said: Told ya, based on what I read yesterday the tag was not an option. I wish I could find it so you wouldn’t think I was full of **** lol I think the tag is coming and they’ll sacrifice some players to make room. Hooper is viewed as a star and the team will want to keep him Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ergo Proxy 25,548 Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 10 minutes ago, Francis York Morgan said: Agree with tagging Hoop to trade, but that tweet doesn't seem trustworthy at all. I agree. It could merely be speculation based on making use of Hooper as an asset rather than losing straight up to UFA...seems to possibly be a spin off Dimitroff’s interview yesterday. Speculation on top of speculation? Francis York Morgan 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
red falcon 4,660 Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 28 minutes ago, sandtrap said: What exactly do you not like about these particular resignings? I would argue that the vast majority of them were good resignings. Good: Ryan Julio Matthews Grady Debo Questionable: Trufant Freeman (Coming off the super bowl run and the season he had it would be hard to argue against it but I didn't like the signing because I felt we were overpaying for the previous seasons work) I wouldnt have paid a running back that money. If you invest well in the line or have a decent scheme almost anyone can run back there. Look at the kid from the niners. I'm fine with trufant, Matthew's grady and debo. I figured they pay matt and julio. The vision if the team is starting to waiver offensively like it did towards the end of Smith's tenure Pacific_Falcon 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JD dirtybird21 22,111 Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 Another thing to consider is if the Falcons truly weren't planning on bringing Hooper back, they'd have traded before the deadline one would think Ergo Proxy and Pacific_Falcon 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ergo Proxy 25,548 Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 4 minutes ago, JD dirtybird21 said: Another thing to consider is if the Falcons truly weren't planning on bringing Hooper back, they'd have traded before the deadline one would think Yeah but isn’t it kind of different for him not to have been approached about a contract until after the season? I think a decision just hasn’t been made firmly one way or another like some other players. Vandy 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ya_boi_j 64,400 Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 5 minutes ago, JD dirtybird21 said: Another thing to consider is if the Falcons truly weren't planning on bringing Hooper back, they'd have traded before the deadline one would think That’s what I said earlier about him and Freeman yet the odds of Freeman kicking rocks are high. Then on the other hand they kept both in an attempt to finish strong for The sake of Quinn’s job Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JD dirtybird21 22,111 Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 1 minute ago, Schwarzwald said: Yeah but isn’t it kind of different for him not to have been approached about a contract until after the season? I think a decision just hasn’t been made firmly one way or another like some other players. Maybe...I have a feeling that everything is actually already planned. I think Freeman is cut without question. Trufant is either restructured or cut. Mack is either extended or cut. Beasley and Campbell aren't brought back. Hooper is. Pacific_Falcon 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Francis York Morgan 24,720 Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 2 minutes ago, ya_boi_j said: That’s what I said earlier about him and Freeman yet the odds of Freeman kicking rocks are high. Then on the other hand they kept both in an attempt to finish strong for The sake of Quinn’s job I doubt they'd get anything for Freeman given his injuries and recent production. You're just throwing money away at that point. With Hooper I think they still wanted to retain him at a decent price and thought with the injury might get it...doubtful now Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JD dirtybird21 22,111 Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 2 minutes ago, Francis York Morgan said: I doubt they'd get anything for Freeman given his injuries and recent production. You're just throwing money away at that point. With Hooper I think they still wanted to retain him at a decent price and thought with the injury might get it...doubtful now Hooper could actually end up being cheaper than we think. Watch the contract that George Kittle gets. It's going to destroy Hooper's and Henry's. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ergo Proxy 25,548 Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 2 minutes ago, JD dirtybird21 said: Maybe...I have a feeling that everything is actually already planned. I think Freeman is cut without question. Trufant is either restructured or cut. Mack is either extended or cut. Beasley and Campbell aren't brought back. Hooper is. Presuming those decisions have been made... RB1 C Edge LB ...all have questions. I think Mack is an extension situation rather than being cut. Tru idk their plans but he “could” be restructured and kept another year... Free I can’t read their CoA atm...Hill is an UFA I believe? But Free going would make retaining Hill a must given Ito’s injury history and Barner also being an UFA. i figures defense would get most attention this draft but the most value guy we have walking is Hooper and that decision and how it unfolds will hinge the rest of the offseason... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JD dirtybird21 22,111 Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 1 minute ago, Schwarzwald said: Presuming those decisions have been made... RB1 C Edge LB ...all have questions. I think Mack is an extension situation rather than being cut. Tru idk their plans but he “could” be restructured and kept another year... Free I can’t read their CoA atm...Hill is an UFA I believe? But Free going would make retaining Hill a must given Ito’s injury history and Barner also being an UFA. i figures defense would get most attention this draft but the most value guy we have walking is Hooper and that decision and how it unfolds will hinge the rest of the offseason... I forgot to mention, I think we are drafting a RB in either the 2nd round or trading back into the 1st and getting one. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
robertap 871 Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 7 hours ago, Goober Pyle said: Dimitroff mentioned how impressed he is with the size of some of the players on the North team, which includes Notre Dame’s Chase Claypool (6-foot-4, 229 pounds), Texas A&M’s Quartney Davis (6-2, 200 pounds), Liberty’s Antonio Gandy-Golden (6-4, 220 pounds), Baylor’s Denzel Mims (6-3, 215 pounds) and USC’s Michael Pittman Jr. (6-4, 220 pounds). TD, ever dazzled by the shiny hood ornaments. 7-9 with Julio and Ridley on the team dude. Get over your fetish. Pacific_Falcon 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FalconFanSince1969 13,525 Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 1 minute ago, JD dirtybird21 said: I forgot to mention, I think we are drafting a RB in either the 2nd round or trading back into the 1st and getting one. I'd be livid if we traded up for a rb in the first few rounds. Later rounds is ok, but the cost is just too high early Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JD dirtybird21 22,111 Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 1 minute ago, FalconFanSince1969 said: I'd be livid if we traded up for a rb in the first few rounds. Later rounds is ok, but the cost is just too high early I think it's coming man...I could see us drafting a guy like Swift in late round 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ovie_Lover 29,415 Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 3 minutes ago, robertap said: TD, ever dazzled by the shiny hood ornaments. 7-9 with Julio and Ridley on the team dude. Get over your fetish. He was asked about the receivers tool. Vandy 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ergo Proxy 25,548 Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 21 hours ago, JD dirtybird21 said: I forgot to mention, I think we are drafting a RB in either the 2nd round or trading back into the 1st and getting one. That’s a tough pill to swallow on moving up or taking a RB that hi... Like, aren’t or weren’t we going towards RBBC? What run scheme are we even going to use in the first place? That pushes solving other positional overturn down the line too...with a couple prospects returning to college...I’d not take that one as high for this offense unless Dirk is gonna really get more out of the position this year...get a good RB and force him to be RB1 and used? That also banks on the defense performing like we saw last part of 2019...with less resources now by taking a RB high. I’m pretty torn. Rings 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JD dirtybird21 22,111 Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 1 minute ago, Schwarzwald said: That’s a tough pill to swallow on moving up or taking a RB that hi... Like, aren’t or weren’t we going towards RBBC? What run scheme are we even going to use in the first place? That pushes solving other positional overturn down the line too...with a couple prospects returning to college...I’d not take that one as high for this offense unless Dirk is gonna really get more out of the position this year...get a good RB and force him to be RB1 and used? That also banks on the defense performing like we saw last part of 2019...with less resources now by taking a RB high. I’m pretty torn. I'm never a fan of drafting a RB high. But, I mentioned to some friends that if Dirk was retained, I think we have to go that route. Ergo Proxy 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FalconFanSince1969 13,525 Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 4 minutes ago, JD dirtybird21 said: I think it's coming man...I could see us drafting a guy like Swift in late round 1 I dont see a trade up. I think we for sure take one with one of those seconds though. If we take swift blank is still meddling imo and it's a ticket selling move. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JD dirtybird21 22,111 Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 Just now, FalconFanSince1969 said: I dont see a trade up. I think we for sure take one with one of those seconds though. If we take swift blank is still meddling imo and it's a ticket selling move. Yea probably lol. I just know that with Koetter running the offense, this scheme will rely more on talent than scheme itself. A stud back could actually really help with Ryan taking less hits and doing what he does best. More butts in seats wouldn't be a bad thing either lol. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
robertap 871 Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 5 minutes ago, Ovie_Lover said: He was asked about the receivers tool. No mention in the article of him being asked about the receivers. You have another source? Pacific_Falcon 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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