Falcons Fan MVP Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 Why not why not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Geneaut Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 That's 2 different questions I think. Unless you mean 'and' in a mathematical way and are insinuating we need to keep both as a package? I think Campbell can walk. Someone will offer him more than we are willing to spend. I'd try to resign Clayborn. He played for about $2M last season. The Don™, Lethal, Cole World and 7 others 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Don™ Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 Yes to Clayborn. He's proven, relatively cheap, and still good for 4-6 sacks a year. I think him, Davison and Means (assuming his Achilles is good) should be resigned. After that, we still should add a vet pass rusher or two in FA and then draft one or two high in the draft. Bailey, Beasley and Crawford are probably all gone. Senat is a mystery and Cominsky is relatively unknown. There's question marks on that DL and resigning/signing proven, effective players should be a priority. We can't just rely on the draft and a hope a rookie is putting up 16 sacks out the gate. It usually doesn't work that way. It's probably going to be a front seven heavy draft I bet with a safety and CB added mid to late rounds like we always do. No to Campbell. Hasn't really improved all that much since '16 and I question his work ethic and desire. Cole World, BUBBASBEANS, Lethal and 6 others 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lethal Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 Clay yes Campbell no Because reasons Ergo Proxy, Cole World, Rings and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis York Morgan Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 Clay's a big yes. Best pass rusher last year imho Big no to Campbell. Dude hasn't progressed at all and is part of the complacency issue. Falcons Fan MVP, FalconsIn2012, Ergo Proxy and 5 others 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boss Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 Claiborne neck no he's one of the most overrated falcon player by this board. Campbell is underrated by this board but will to much money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rings Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 6 hours ago, boss said: Claiborne neck no he's one of the most overrated falcon player by this board. Campbell is underrated by this board but will to much money. You spelled Beasley wrong. Clay had 12 more pressures on 75 less pass rush snaps than Vic and cost 2mil vs 13mil. Who is overated? CADirtyBird, Geneaut, FalconJim and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconsIn2012 Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 8 hours ago, Francis York Morgan said: Clay's a big yes. Best pass rusher last year imho Big no to Campbell. Dude hasn't progressed at all and is part of the complacency issue. Clay is criminally under appreciated around the league. Dude deserves 6-8 mill APY ATLSlobberKnockers 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_The Iceman_Ryan Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 Neither. They aren’t good. Rather have a rookie and a better vet. Im watching WAS and what they do with Ryan Kerrigan If he gets cut, you do whatever you can to sign him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesus Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 Can't keep them all. Might be time to get younger and faster at both spots. Let's see what Cominsky and Foye can do. Geneaut 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunken Minotaur Zebra Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 21 hours ago, The Don™ said: Yes to Clayborn. He's proven, relatively cheap, and still good for 4-6 sacks a year. I think him, Davison and Means (assuming his Achilles is good) should be resigned. After that, we still should add a vet pass rusher or two in FA and then draft one or two high in the draft. Bailey, Beasley and Crawford are probably all gone. Senat is a mystery and Cominsky is relatively unknown. There's question marks on that DL and resigning/signing proven, effective players should be a priority. We can't just rely on the draft and a hope a rookie is putting up 16 sacks out the gate. It usually doesn't work that way. It's probably going to be a front seven heavy draft I bet with a safety and CB added mid to late rounds like we always do. No to Campbell. Hasn't really improved all that much since '16 and I question his work ethic and desire. Summed up my thoughts Geneaut 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesmasen Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 Yes as depth.. obviously that's subject to money or lack of money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4dabirds Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 (edited) On 1/21/2020 at 5:22 PM, Francis York Morgan said: Clay's a big yes. Best pass rusher last year imho Big no to Campbell. Dude hasn't progressed at all and is part of the complacency issue. Actually, Campbell has progressed every year with last season being his best. He piled up the tackles with 129, had two sacks, two int's, and 3 forced fumbles. He was not terrible, but like others on the defense, he was not doing well with communication. Not huge numbers, which tells me that he will not be getting a huge payday from another team. This could be like Tevin Coleman, where we all that it was going to cost too much to keep him, but in actuality, he can be signed for far less than anticipated. As for Clayborn, he wasn't as good as before he left for NE, but he was better than he was with NE. He won't cost much to keep but can be replaced. Edited January 22, 2020 by 4dabirds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis York Morgan Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 5 minutes ago, 4dabirds said: Actually, Campbell has progressed every year with last season being his best. He piled up the tackles with 129, had two sacks, two int's, and 3 forced fumbles. He was not terrible, but like others on the defense, he was not doing well with communication. Numbers lie. He hasn't gotten much better from the eye test imho, and he admitted to not taking the Browns seriously. Like Tru running away from Chubbs on the long TD...complacency kills. So get rid of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4dabirds Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 1 minute ago, Francis York Morgan said: Numbers lie. He hasn't gotten much better from the eye test imho, and he admitted to not taking the Browns seriously. Like Tru running away from Chubbs on the long TD...complacency kills. So get rid of it. No, the numbers do not lie. Also, the "Eye Test" clearly showed that he played better than he did in 2018. If anything he's learned to do his job better. I'm not advocating to keep the guy, because his production can be replaced with this years draft, and likely will be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*TMo* Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 Yes, they're solid players that are hard to replace unless you draft the replacement high in the draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTann Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 Definitely yes to Clayborn. Give me Clayborn, Matt Judon, and re-sign Hooper and Davison. Let Campbell go as well as Freeman (Post June 1st cut). Trufant is up in the air. Beasley also up in the air depending on if he’d take $3M at most or not. Keep Mack for at least 1 more year but have his replacement on this year’s team. Falcons Fan MVP 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLSlobberKnockers Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 Have to keep Clayborn. He's our best all around DE, and a good vet presence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcons_Frenzy Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 Clayborn sure. Campbell, no ty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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