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3 hours ago, Ezekiel 25:17 said:

Which that all tells me is that he wakes up in a cold sweat most nights waking up from the nightmare of not running the ball.

Unlike Quinn, he has the opportunity to change the narrative.

If he wins 28-3 is nothing for him but a small footnote.

Quinn on the other-hand.... he'll be the 28-3 guy until he wins a Superbowl as a Head Coach.  Which is probably never going to happen.

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3 hours ago, A Pimp Named Slickback™ said:

Regardless of what he does with the 9ers, he's been gone for 4 years now. He's moved on, at what point do our fans move on from him? We had one real magical season with him, and he was able to cash in off that. I don't blame him at all, I just think (bad OC choices after him aside) his name shouldn't come up as much as it does within our base. He's not coming back. 

He wasn't calling the defense that gave up 25 unanswered points after all...

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Just now, Sun Tzu 7 said:

Unlike Quinn, he has the opportunity to change the narrative.

If he wins 28-3 is nothing for him but a small footnote.

Quinn on the other-hand.... he'll be the 28-3 guy until he wins a Superbowl as a Head Coach.  Which is probably never going to happen.

I partially agree, but the competitor in him will always have that stain on his ego. 
 

That one is hard to shake completely off  even with a win next weekend. Although, I agree, it will go a long way to making it a lesser defeat.

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Just now, Ezekiel 25:17 said:

I partially agree, but the competitor in him will always have that stain on his ego. 
 

That one is hard to shake completely off  even with a win next weekend. Although, I agree, it will go a long way to making it a lesser defeat.

Ok then what do you think bothers Quinn more?

The Superbowl loss to the Pats where he was the DC or the one where he was the HC?

He didn't call the play at the goalline that resulted in the int for the Seahawks, right?  That was the HC's responsibility.

Probably the same with Kyle.  Whatever happens in this SB will impact him far more than what he did as the OC.  People will hardly remember he had anything to do with it.  Quinn on the other hand.

Quick question.  Who was the Bills OC in those 4 Superbowl losses?  I have no idea but I know Marv Leavy was the guy in charge.

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Just now, Sun Tzu 7 said:

Ok then what do you think bothers Quinn more?

The Superbowl loss to the Pats where he was the DC or the one where he was the HC?

He didn't call the play at the goalline that resulted in the int for the Seahawks, right?  That was the HC's responsibility.

Probably the same with Kyle.  Whatever happens in this SB will impact him far more than what he did as the OC.  People will hardly remember he had anything to do with it.  Quinn on the other hand.

Quick question.  Who was the Bills OC in those 4 Superbowl losses?  I have no idea but I know Marv Leavy was the guy in charge.

Oh no no no, I am right there with you. I just don’t see Shanahan completely forgetting the past. 

That and I think “personally” it did hurt just as much with him being the OC as it would have if he was the HC. 
Professionally(especially in the eyes of the media an fans) not so much.

Other than that, I have no disagreement with you.

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Shanny is a god tier playcaller and from a purely statistical standpoint it’s unlikely we have an OC as good as him in the next 50+ seasons. However, the drop-off from him can be made up for in other ways like defense and special teams

Thank God for Ryan because this team hasn’t had a whole lot else to count on or inspire hope going into each season

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46 minutes ago, A Pimp Named Slickback™ said:

Quinn should always be numero uno when it comes to the failure that is SB 51. Shanny got cute, but only b/c Quinn didn't reel him in. 

That's what I've always said, too!!! 
Plus, since Quinn's "forte" was supposedly Defense, why couldn't he rally the troops for a quarter, or so, of a game to prevent the loss! 
But guess what, there's a chance we get another year of the same 'ol same 'ol --- :(  




 

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5 hours ago, Ovie_Lover said:

This fanbase didnt deserve Shanny.

This fan base is a lot of things and don't deserve a lot of things but Kyle Shanahan isn't one of them. All he did here was show how petulant he was by running 3 straight plays to Roddy White to start a game to prove a point and be completely foolish in his late game play calling to help us lose what should have been our first Superbowl win. No Kyle Shanahan doesn't get the Matt Ryan treatment. This fan base deserved better than what Kyle Shanahan left us with. He's obviously a great coach but he failed this franchise in the most important moments. 

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13 minutes ago, Dem Birds said:

This fan base is a lot of things and don't deserve a lot of things but Kyle Shanahan isn't one of them. All he did here was show how petulant he was by running 3 straight plays to Roddy White to start a game to prove a point and be completely foolish in his late game play calling to help us lose what should have been our first Superbowl win. No Kyle Shanahan doesn't get the Matt Ryan treatment. This fan base deserved better than what Kyle Shanahan left us with. He's obviously a great coach but he failed this franchise in the most important moments. 

These guys hated him from the start. Now they all wanna suck his toes. They'd kill for him to be back and expect every coordinator after to be just like him. They want a historic offense every year. 

Ran off Sark now yall gotta deal with Koetter. 

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6 hours ago, JDaveG said:

Or maybe he learned from his mistakes?

Something funny about this board to me (not you at all, since you aren't saying this, but generally) is how everyone expects the coach who got arrogant and called 4 shotgun plays in a row in field goal range is now the guy who is going to win it all and totally not do that ever again.

The HC who hired him, got us there in his 2nd season, and came real close to getting us back the next season?  No, that guy will never learn.  He's hopeless.  He's a lost cause.  

Pity we didn’t learn the next year also after Julio’s catch for 20 on 4th and 6 and then Coleman’s run to there 5 for us to stall out and lose.

Talk about rinse wash repeat fark we are good.

 I still laugh to this day about the situational play calling by both Shanny & Sark all while our imperious leader DQ looked on lol just farking laughable.

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7 hours ago, FalconsIn2012 said:

I love Shanny, but I don’t buy it.  Not for a second.  Competitive people don’t ever forget about their losses, especially ones on the biggest stage.  All the greats say they remember the losses more than the wins.  Shanny is no different

And it was not 28-3 in the 4th.  Come on Shanny!!!

And we were out of FG range at the 35; after the sack on a shotgun call while in “better” FG range behind a hobbled OL...

What this actually sounds like is an article spun at victimizing Shanahan, deflecting to others and being self-righteous and justified to his play calling.

yet he says he wanted the sack play back.

But remember Matt could’ve thrown it away or audible to a run! :rolleyes:

It sounds like someone hyper-focused and unwilling to listen to reason just because they take pride in their work...to a fault.

I get it though...why trust the defense we were showing and why run if HC isn’t demanding it?

Ok Kyle you did no wrong <3 there there daddy’s boy your feels are validated into you don’t make mistakes! “I blew it” still echos in the hotel...

:shrug:

But ya DQ shoulda taken over as his defense was crumbling. War of attrition was peaked by their TD drive to end 3rd Q.

It was about using clock and not taking risks. We didn’t and we did.

Yes, running was better than what we did BEFORE the situation a FG seals the game.

”sack took us out of FG range to the 35”...I want the play back but I hoped it would’ve worked.

Dude is oblivious to the health of the OL at that point. Mack couldn’t recover from the stunt inside by Flowers and Matt was inside the pocket trying to hit Julio again. Nope, went to the well too many times. Theme of the game.

Yet all Kyle can do this playoff run is control the game with a focused and dominant run game?

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2 hours ago, Ovie_Lover said:

These guys hated him from the start. Now they all wanna suck his toes. They'd kill for him to be back and expect every coordinator after to be just like him. They want a historic offense every year. 

Ran off Sark now yall gotta deal with Koetter. 

While I don't disagree, Kyle is very smug and unlikable and butting heads with probably the most likeable Falcon we've had in a long time was not good for his perception. He certainly earned a lot of the hate he got in his first year and losing the Superbowl the way we did combined with how personality was always going to leave a bitter taste in most mouths. Sark didn't deserve the hate he got, neither does Koetter. 

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3 minutes ago, Dem Birds said:

While I don't disagree, Kyle is very smug and unlikable and butting heads with probably the most likeable Falcon we've had in a long time was not good for his perception. He certainly earned a lot of the hate he got in his first year and losing the Superbowl the way we did combined with how personality was always going to leave a bitter taste in most mouths. Sark didn't deserve the hate he got, neither does Koetter. 

You know what, I cant disagree with any of that. 

I will say with how good Kyle is he kinda has the right to be smug. I remember the 9ers LTA giving an interview and he talked about how he was on the sidelines with Shanny and they motioned Kittle over and Kyle said "touchdown" before it was even snapped and walked away, buddy didnt even watch the play and sure enough it was a TD to Kittle.

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I'd be a smug little **** too :lol:

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8 hours ago, FalconsIn2012 said:

I love Shanny, but I don’t buy it.  Not for a second.  Competitive people don’t ever forget about their losses, especially ones on the biggest stage.  All the greats say they remember the losses more than the wins.  Shanny is no different

And it was not 28-3 in the 4th.  Come on Shanny!!!

 

 

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9 hours ago, A Pimp Named Slickback™ said:

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2872350-49ers-hc-kyle-shanahan-says-he-rarely-thinks-about-falcons-super-bowl-li-loss

 

49ers HC Kyle Shanahan Says He Rarely Thinks About Falcons' Super Bowl LI Loss
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San Francisco 49ers head coach Kyle Shanahan, center, and general manager John Lynch, right, celebrate during an interview with Terry Bradshaw, left, after the NFL NFC Championship football game against the Green Bay Packers Sunday, Jan. 19, 2020, in Santa Clara, Calif. The 49ers won 37-20 to advance to Super Bowl 54 against the Kansas City Chiefs. (AP Photo/Ben Margot)
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San Francisco 49ers head coach Kyle Shanahan is headed to Super Bowl LIV after defeating the Green Bay Packers 37-20 in the NFC Championship Game on Sunday.

It is Shanahan's first trip back to the Super Bowl since the 2016-17 campaign when he served as the Atlanta Falcons offensive coordinator, and the Falcons infamously botched a 28-3 fourth-quarter lead to lose 34-28 to the New England Patriots.

Shanahan was asked by reporters Monday if he still thinks about losing Super Bowl LI.

"Not much at all anymore, to tell you the truth," Shanahan responded. "You do it every second in the days after; they were real tough. Losing the Super Bowl is extremely tough for everybody, especially when you have a 28-3 lead going into the fourth."


He continued: 

"But the way it came down on me personally, I didn't react to that the way people would expect because there were definitely parts of that Super Bowl I would love to have back and I was very hard on myself. But the whole narrative of 'if I just would have run it, we would have won,' I know that wasn't the case. I know what went into that game and all the stuff that happened, so that stuff didn't bother me. You've got to deal with that and listen to other people, but it was nice to be able to move on and move out here and just keep working. I'm glad I'm going to get the chance to go back."

Shanahan was hired as the Niners head coach in Feb. 2017, following the Falcons' devastating loss. Shanahan's arrival correlated with John Lynch's hiring as general manager.

It was a tough first two seasons in charge. San Francisco went 6-10 in 2017, then saw 2018 derailed when quarterback Jimmy Garoppolo's torn ACL headlined numerous injuries en route to a 4-12 record. 

With Garoppolo back healthy and 2019 second overall pick Nick Bosa bolstering a dominant defensive unit, the Niners finally blossomed this season. San Francisco went 13-3 in the regular season and earned the NFC's top seed.

Shanahan has already made history by making his first Super Bowl as a head coach:


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The 49ers will clash with the Kansas City Chiefs in Super Bowl LIV. Chiefs head coach Andy Reid knows what it feels like to lose a Super Bowl. He last made it this far as the Philadelphia Eagles head coach in 2004-05 and lost 24-21 to the New England Patriots. 


Reid is the winningest head coach in league history without a Super Bowl or NFL Championship, per NFL Research. 

One head coach will achieve redemption, while the other will be doubly heartbroken. 

The Chiefs and Niners will kick off Super Bowl LIV on Feb. 2 at 6:30 p.m. ET from Miami's Hard Rock Stadium.

I can't help thinking that Shanny was like a horse that runs his rider off a cliff. There was a guy with the reigns in his hand that never pulled up and that guy still has the reigns while we all blame the horse. To be honest... I'll never forgive the horse but I'll definitely never trust the rider.

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