AUTiger7222 Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 1 hour ago, Rings said: 40 Henry: 4.54 sec Ollison: 4.58 sec Bench Henry: 22 reps Ollison: 19 reps Vert Henry: 37" Ollison: 29.5" Broad Jump Henry: 130" Ollison: 114" 3 Cone Henry: 7.20 sec Ollison: 7.53 sec Looking at these numbers I was thinking, "boy, I'm surprised Ollison's numbers are that close to Henry's" and then I got to the board jump and 3 cone and my jaw dropped. JDaveG, Rings, Ergo Proxy and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tl;dr Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 32 minutes ago, Rings said: I don't know if he is the best back, but I do think he is the back that fits absolutely perfectly with his scheme, his line and what the team wants to do. He mirrors their mentality perfectly and it's extremely fun to watch. Haha I’m also a huge Derrick Henry fan. He’s just a monster. He stands out physically even at this level AUTiger7222 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
⚡Slumerican⚡ Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 4 minutes ago, AUTiger7222 said: Looking at these numbers I was thinking, "boy, I'm surprised Ollison's numbers are that close to Henry's" and then I got to the board jump and 3 cone and my jaw dropped. And 8" more inches on the vert, not to mention Henry is 20 lbs heavier.. That guy is a athletic freak JDaveG, AUTiger7222 and red falcon 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLSlobberKnockers Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 35 minutes ago, Refried Beans said: Henry is wearing stilts Ingram is not Fify Rings 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconsIn2012 Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 1 hour ago, wartownfalcon said: Qadree Ollison is 6’2 232lbs Standing 6'1", 248 pounds, Dillon clocked a 4.52 in the 40-yard dash and a 4.29 in the shuttle. His athleticism (38.3-inch jump) and strength (40-foot toss) were also on display, earning him SPARQ (speed, power, agility, reaction and quickness) ratings MVP honors for a second-straight year. 4700 all purpose yards and 40 TD’s in 35 games AlabamaFalconFan, Artys Arryn, mar31985 and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ergo Proxy Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 1 hour ago, Rings said: Vert Henry: 37" Ollison: 29.5" Broad Jump Henry: 130" Ollison: 114" 3 Cone Henry: 7.20 sec Ollison: 7.53 sec Them legs, tho! Rings 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconsIn2012 Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 AJ Dillon ANALYST'S REPORTS Crabbs TDN Pros: Just absurd size and strength throughout his frame. Lower-half is as thick as tree trunks, and his power suggests that he’s one of the most explosive running backs in college football. Broken tackle and motor machine who is a devastating downhill runner. Difficult for one opposing defender to bring down without tripping him up around his toes. Violent stiff-arm who can throw defenders off of him. While his game is based off of power, he is patient behind the line of scrimmage until holes open up. Change of speed is evident, and his long-speed is solid considering his size. Durable runner who is relied on to carry the BC Eagles offense. Improved as a pass-catcher as a sophomore, showing that his hands are at least capable in short distances. AUTiger7222 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rings Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 41 minutes ago, AUTiger7222 said: Looking at these numbers I was thinking, "boy, I'm surprised Ollison's numbers are that close to Henry's" and then I got to the board jump and 3 cone and my jaw dropped. Explosion Matters AUTiger7222 and Ergo Proxy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconsIn2012 Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 The NFL Can't Wait: Boston College Tailback AJ Dillon Is a Rare Talent MATT HAYESAUGUST 29, 2018 Editor's Note: College football is BACK. Get to know the three SURE-FIRE superstars who are guaranteed to dominate this season. Part 1 (Tuesday): Nick Bosa Part 2 (today): AJ Dillon Part 3 (Thursday): Ed Oliver CHESTNUT HILL, Mass. — Watch the video. It's 15 seconds of utterly hypnotic football. If you look hard enough, it tells a different story with every replay. "All I remember is I wanted to get him off me," Boston College tailback AJ Dillon says of the Louisville defender he threw to the ground en route to a 75-yard touchdown run. "And I wanted to get around that corner." You may not know Dillon, but consider this statement from an NFL scout to Bleacher Report: "If our league had a one-and-done like the NBA, [Dillon] is the perfect candidate." Watch the video. The true freshman running back in his first career start—seven weeks into the season—looks like a senior All-American, a man among boys. He's reminiscent of former LSU tailback Leonard Fournette, 245 pounds of rumbling terror, tossing defenders aside like rag dolls and running away from others like they're stuck on pause. He's not shifty or deceptive like Bryce Love of Stanford or dangerous and dynamic like Jonathan Taylor of Wisconsin, both of whom run behind massive offensive lines and are the most recognizable faces of college football at the tailback position. He's much more than that. He's a chiseled player with 8 percent body fat. He once set the New England high school record for the 100-meter dash, not because he trained for it, but because, what the heck, he figured, let's see how fast I can run it. He didn't start last year until the middle of October and still rushed for 1,589 yards and 14 touchdowns. He's the product of a single-parent household for much of his life, raised by his mother in New London, Connecticut, with equal parts unconditional love and unrelenting discipline every step of the way https://www.google.com/amp/s/syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/2793098-boston-colleges-aj-dillon-is-a-sophomore-tailback-whose-skills-demand-attention.amp.html This is a touching story. Take a minute and read up on the young man AUTiger7222 and mar31985 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rings Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 5 minutes ago, FalconsIn2012 said: The NFL Can't Wait: Boston College Tailback AJ Dillon Is a Rare Talent MATT HAYES AUGUST 29, 2018 Editor's Note: College football is BACK. Get to know the three SURE-FIRE superstars who are guaranteed to dominate this season. Part 1 (Tuesday): Nick Bosa Part 2 (today): AJ Dillon Part 3 (Thursday): Ed Oliver CHESTNUT HILL, Mass. — Watch the video. It's 15 seconds of utterly hypnotic football. If you look hard enough, it tells a different story with every replay. "All I remember is I wanted to get him off me," Boston College tailback AJ Dillon says of the Louisville defender he threw to the ground en route to a 75-yard touchdown run. "And I wanted to get around that corner." You may not know Dillon, but consider this statement from an NFL scout to Bleacher Report: "If our league had a one-and-done like the NBA, [Dillon] is the perfect candidate." Watch the video. The true freshman running back in his first career start—seven weeks into the season—looks like a senior All-American, a man among boys. He's reminiscent of former LSU tailback Leonard Fournette, 245 pounds of rumbling terror, tossing defenders aside like rag dolls and running away from others like they're stuck on pause. He's not shifty or deceptive like Bryce Love of Stanford or dangerous and dynamic like Jonathan Taylor of Wisconsin, both of whom run behind massive offensive lines and are the most recognizable faces of college football at the tailback position. He's much more than that. He's a chiseled player with 8 percent body fat. He once set the New England high school record for the 100-meter dash, not because he trained for it, but because, what the heck, he figured, let's see how fast I can run it. He didn't start last year until the middle of October and still rushed for 1,589 yards and 14 touchdowns. He's the product of a single-parent household for much of his life, raised by his mother in New London, Connecticut, with equal parts unconditional love and unrelenting discipline every step of the way https://www.google.com/amp/s/syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/2793098-boston-colleges-aj-dillon-is-a-sophomore-tailback-whose-skills-demand-attention.amp.html This is a touching story. Take a minute and read up on the young man Any comp to Fournette terrifies me. 4. We are bad at evaluating running backs Every year, some new RB is touted as a generational prospect. Last year it was Leonard Fournette, whose NFL.com draft profile lists Bo Jackson as his NFL comparison. In 2012, it was Trent Richardson, who was touted as “as compact and coiled an athlete as the position has seen since Adrian Peterson”. In Fournette’s rookie season, he was below league average in yards per carry and success rate despite being drafted at #4 overall. Richardson was drafted at #3 overall and is already out of the league.Whenever I share these arguments, the response I always get from Seahawks fans is “but what about Marshawn Lynch”? This response is misguided for two reasons. First, you cannot know ahead of time if a given prospect is the next Marshawn Lynch. If you think you can, we have mountains of evidence that you are wrong: we have a nearly 20,000 carry sample size of top 20 RBs not being any better than league average. I like how Josh Hermsmeyer put it: “Statistics is really just a way of quantifying how dumb we are.” When it comes to scouting RBs, we are very dumb. And second, the Seahawks did not spend a high draft pick on Marshawn Lynch: they traded for him after his value fell. Which brings me to my next point: RBs are cheap to acquire. 1989Fan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rings Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 27 minutes ago, FalconsIn2012 said: Standing 6'1", 248 pounds, Dillon clocked a 4.52 in the 40-yard dash and a 4.29 in the shuttle. His athleticism (38.3-inch jump) and strength (40-foot toss) were also on display, earning him SPARQ (speed, power, agility, reaction and quickness) ratings MVP honors for a second-straight year. 4700 all purpose yards and 40 TD’s in 35 games WHY CAN'T I ESCAPE BOOGER?!?!?!?! Sportsman2593 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconsIn2012 Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 5 minutes ago, Rings said: WHY CAN'T I ESCAPE BOOGER?!?!?!?! Booger McFarland? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rings Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 3 minutes ago, FalconsIn2012 said: Booger McFarland? Yeah, 31 seconds in...dude haunts my dreams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWFALCON Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 27 minutes ago, Rings said: WHY CAN'T I ESCAPE BOOGER?!?!?!?! Gotta flick em or eat em. Rings 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFanSince1969 Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 Where were all of these Henry fans the first 4 years of his career before his contract year? Artys Arryn, Sportsman2593, FalconsIn2012 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1989Fan Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 Henry looks like a modern Bo Jackson out there! i do get a chuckle at everyone who wants to sign him, knowing most also say you don’t give a big deal to a RB when they shttin on Free lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconsIn2012 Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 4 hours ago, FalconFanSince1969 said: Where were all of these Henry fans the first 4 years of his career before his contract year? Pretty much this.... Henry averaged 32 ypg in 2016 46 ypg in 2017 & 65 ypg in 2018. Freeman gets lynched here for averaging more ypg over the same period. If we drafted Henry in the 2nd but he averaged 45 ypg his first 3 years, the board would State Line him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1989Fan Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 8 hours ago, ⚡Slumerican⚡ said: I promise you, Henry is taller than 6-3..dont trust those numbers always posted in bios.. I wouldn't even trust the numbers posted in the combines for bio stats.. Henry is ever bit of 6-5..im 6-3 and his last year of college i stood next to him, he definitely was a few inches taller than me Was he in cleats standing on the sidewalk? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridder Me This Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 8 hours ago, FalconsIn2012 said: Standing 6'1", 248 pounds, Dillon clocked a 4.52 in the 40-yard dash and a 4.29 in the shuttle. His athleticism (38.3-inch jump) and strength (40-foot toss) were also on display, earning him SPARQ (speed, power, agility, reaction and quickness) ratings MVP honors for a second-straight year. 4700 all purpose yards and 40 TD’s in 35 games Was waiting for this post...Dillon is good. Not Henry, but he is good. What the MBs fails to realize about TD and this roster... Falcons have drafted a RB in the 4th or 5th round in 4 of the last 6 drafts with another RB in the 3rd round... There are 4 RBs on the roster in the 4th/5th round...the 3rd rounder we let walk... Point being, this is clearly where TD sees the value of the position... Dont expect a RB any higher than the 3rd round... I think a restructure with Freeman is the most likely option...bc the brass would rather have him than the crapshoot of a 4th/5th round RB again... We still didn’t see enough of Ollison... I do think we take another RB, but it will be 5th round or later.... AlabamaFalconFan and FalconsIn2012 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconsIn2012 Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 15 minutes ago, Matt_The Iceman_Ryan said: Was waiting for this post...Dillon is good. Not Henry, but he is good. What the MBs fails to realize about TD and this roster... Falcons have drafted a RB in the 4th or 5th round in 4 of the last 6 drafts with another RB in the 3rd round... There are 4 RBs on the roster in the 4th/5th round...the 3rd rounder we let walk... Point being, this is clearly where TD sees the value of the position... Dont expect a RB any higher than the 3rd round... I think a restructure with Freeman is the most likely option...bc the brass would rather have him than the crapshoot of a 4th/5th round RB again... We still didn’t see enough of Ollison... I do think we take another RB, but it will be 5th round or later.... Good post... But Henry wasn’t really considered anything but a solid back until this year. Freeman averaged more ypg between 2016-2018 Ergo Proxy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridder Me This Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 1 minute ago, FalconsIn2012 said: Good post... But Henry wasn’t really considered anything but a solid back until this year. Freeman averaged more ypg between 2016-2018 Totally agree. The HC, the mindset, the identity all can enhance or hinder a roster... We still don’t have the right guy to be physical enough up front to run the ball... Why try to keep banging your head agst the wall... Protect MR2, enhance his weapons, and be efficient when running... Pour everything else on defense FalconsIn2012 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1989Fan Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 40 minutes ago, Matt_The Iceman_Ryan said: Was waiting for this post...Dillon is good. Not Henry, but he is good. What the MBs fails to realize about TD and this roster... Falcons have drafted a RB in the 4th or 5th round in 4 of the last 6 drafts with another RB in the 3rd round... There are 4 RBs on the roster in the 4th/5th round...the 3rd rounder we let walk... Point being, this is clearly where TD sees the value of the position... Dont expect a RB any higher than the 3rd round... I think a restructure with Freeman is the most likely option...bc the brass would rather have him than the crapshoot of a 4th/5th round RB again... We still didn’t see enough of Ollison... I do think we take another RB, but it will be 5th round or later.... On the flip side, TD paid Turner big time as one of his first moves as GM of the Falcons. And all the backs he took in late rounds were when the team had an established starter, so the late round picks may have been because he was looking for depth/ COP backs, vs a starter. Even when Free was a round 4 pick in 2014, we had a starter in the roster (Jackson). As soon as Turner looked done, they paid SJ in UFA, indicating that TD does see value in the position. I Don’t think we can say in this current circumstance there is no chance a back is taken until mid-late rounds...also not positioning that one will be taken sooner either. I will say this though, looking at the rushing leaderboards, if we are looking for a dominant RB odds go down drastically after round 2. maybe if the Rams cut Gurley we can finally have “Gurlie to Atlantie” (though I would expect results similar to the SJax signing after he was beat up already) AUTiger7222 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridder Me This Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 32 minutes ago, 1989Fan said: On the flip side, TD paid Turner big time as one of his first moves as GM of the Falcons. And all the backs he took in late rounds were when the team had an established starter, so the late round picks may have been because he was looking for depth/ COP backs, vs a starter. Even when Free was a round 4 pick in 2014, we had a starter in the roster (Jackson). As soon as Turner looked done, they paid SJ in UFA, indicating that TD does see value in the position. I Don’t think we can say in this current circumstance there is no chance a back is taken until mid-late rounds...also not positioning that one will be taken sooner either. I will say this though, looking at the rushing leaderboards, if we are looking for a dominant RB odds go down drastically after round 2. maybe if the Rams cut Gurley we can finally have “Gurlie to Atlantie” (though I would expect results similar to the SJax signing after he was beat up already) Justify it how you want... TD will draft RBs 3rd round or later, or sign underused RBs on a secondcontract or vet... If I’m betting, I’m not betting on a RB in first 2 rounds...probably not 3rpunds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blkbigdog35 Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 11 hours ago, Ovie_Lover said: Where are the other Derrick Henry's? Last I checked there's only one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATL58 Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 11 hours ago, Rings said: I know Ingram is short, but still... Looks like the team manager compared to Henry PokerSteve 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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