FalconsIn2012 Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 Updating the Jimmy Garoppolo trade between the Patriots and the 49ers The Patriots used assets acquired in the deal to select almost half of their 2019 draft class. One quick note before we start: the picks acquired in deals directly resulting from the original Jimmy G trade are in bold. 2017 Trade: Jimmy Garoppolo to San Francisco for 2018 2nd (2-43) 2018 Trade: 2-43 to Detroit for 2-51 and 4-117 Trade: 2-51 to Chicago for 2019 2nd (2-56) and 4-105 Trade: 4-105 to Cleveland for 4-114 and 6-178 Trade: 4-114 to Detroit for 2019 3rd (3-73) Draft: LB Christian Sam with 6-178 Draft: CB Duke Dawson Jr. (2-56) by trading 2-63 and 4-117 So, to recap, during the 2018 draft the Patriots acquired second and third round picks in the 2019 draft, drafted linebacker Christian Sam, and used another one of the picks acquired to package for a trade-up to get cornerback Duke Dawson. 2019 Trade: 3-73 to Chicago for 3-87, 5-162, and 2020 4th Draft: CB Joejuan Williams (2-45) by trading 2-56and 3-101 Draft: RB Damien Harris with 3-87 Draft: OT Yodny Cajuste (3-101) and QB Jarrett Stidham (4-133) by trading 3-97 and 5-162 Most of the chips have been cashed in at this point. Damien Harris was a direct result of trading the 73rd pick to the Chicago Bears, while Joejuan Williams, Yodny Cajuste, and Jarrett Stidham were all acquired by trade using, in part, picks acquired from the original Jimmy Garoppolo deal. But we’re not done yet: the Patriots still have the Bears’ fourth round pick in 2020. The amount of talent that Belichick has been able to acquire with just a single draft pick is awe-inspiring. The name that sticks out is Stidham. Can you imagine if he becomes the successor to Brady? Belichick would have acquired Brady’s successor with a pick from the trade of the the guy everyone believed would be his successor. Knowing Brady, he’ll probably be playing long after Stidham has moved on to a different team too, but how amazing would that be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokerSteve Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 Belie be playin' chess, TD be playin' pin the tail on da donkey. Drew4719, arrogantBEAST, Knight of God and 7 others 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThemDarnFalconsBoy! Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 I'll give them credit for keeping a nice defensive corps filled with young talent, but they struck out on offense. It finally came back to bite them this season in the loss against the Titans in the playoffs. The defense wasn't enough to overcome that sad showing by the offense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconsIn2012 Posted January 11, 2020 Author Share Posted January 11, 2020 Just now, ThemDarnFalconsBoy! said: I'll give them credit for keeping a nice defensive corps filled with young talent, but they struck out on offense. It finally came back to bite them this season in the loss against the Titans in the playoffs. The defense wasn't enough to overcome that sad showing by the offense. That’s not the point. He turned one pick into six simply by trading down 6 spots in the second round. And one of those picks might be a quality starting QB DriveHomeSafelyAtlantaWins, PokerSteve, ATLSlobberKnockers and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThemDarnFalconsBoy! Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 Just now, FalconsIn2012 said: That’s not the point. He turned one pick into six simply by trading down 6 spots in the second round. And one of those picks might be a quality starting QB Duly noted, but I guess what I'm saying is unless 2 of those picks hit on offense, sooner than later, their offense won't win them any games. Ovie_Lover, Drew4719 and FalconsIn2012 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1989Fan Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 TD just fleeced BB on the Sanu trade, so BB take notes. gazoo, mountain_jim3, ATLFalcons11 and 5 others 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ovie_Lover Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 And so far those guys have done nothing. Whoopie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconsIn2012 Posted January 11, 2020 Author Share Posted January 11, 2020 4 minutes ago, 1989Fan said: TD just fleeced BB on the Sanu trade, so BB take notes. He actually did. But Bill had to make a move. They were desperate TheFatboi and Drew4719 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUBBASBEANS Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 17 minutes ago, PokerSteve said: Belie be playin' chess, TD be playin' pin the tail on da donkey. This says it all......I blv trading back is great if you know what to do with it, I’m just not convinced this staff does. PokerSteve 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconsIn2012 Posted January 11, 2020 Author Share Posted January 11, 2020 11 minutes ago, Ovie_Lover said: And so far those guys have done nothing. Whoopie. I’m pretty sure in three years you’ll think different. Williams & Harris will be solid. And Scar said the sky is the limit for Cajuste who missed the year due to injury. Then there is Stedham. All that for moving down 6 spots. But ok. Let’s keep moving up and wasting picks. Former Patriots scout: Jarrett Stidham is Tom Brady's 'heir apparent' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ovie_Lover Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 3 minutes ago, FalconsIn2012 said: I’m pretty sure on three years you’ll think different. Williams & Harris will be solid. And Scar said the sky is the limit for Cajuste who missed the year due to injury. Then there is Stedham. All that for moving down 6 spots. But ok Former Patriots scout: Jarrett Stidham is Tom Brady's 'heir apparent' Stidham will be nothing but ok lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconsIn2012 Posted January 11, 2020 Author Share Posted January 11, 2020 3 minutes ago, Ovie_Lover said: Stidham will be nothing but ok lol. I guess your knowledge is greater than scouts and GM’s & Belichick/McDaniels....good to know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ovie_Lover Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 Just now, FalconsIn2012 said: I guess your knowledge is greater than scouts and GM’s & Belichick/McDaniels....good to know. I love this argument. Because they're never wrong right? Every pick of there's has been perfect. Am I correct to believe that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconsIn2012 Posted January 11, 2020 Author Share Posted January 11, 2020 Just now, Ovie_Lover said: I love this argument. Because they're never wrong right? Every pick of there's has been perfect. Am I correct to believe that? And you’re always right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ovie_Lover Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 1 minute ago, FalconsIn2012 said: I guess your knowledge is greater than scouts and GM’s & Belichick/McDaniels....good to know. Quick let's do it the other way. Why should they fire Koetter? Do you know better than Quinn? TD? Etc? See how stupid that is? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ovie_Lover Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 Just now, FalconsIn2012 said: And you’re always right Lol you're getting personal again. I'll leave you alone. Forgot you can't handle anything other than participation trophies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconsIn2012 Posted January 11, 2020 Author Share Posted January 11, 2020 Just now, Ovie_Lover said: Quick let's do it the other way. Why should they fire Koetter? Do you know better than Quinn? TD? Etc? See how stupid that is? The numbers and production tell that story, not me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ovie_Lover Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, FalconsIn2012 said: The numbers and production tell that story, not me. Top 5 in yards, top 13 in points. Bye now lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quotemokc Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 Duke Dawson Jr was a huge miss by BB. 2nd round CB traded away for peanuts after his rookie season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconsIn2012 Posted January 11, 2020 Author Share Posted January 11, 2020 Just now, Ovie_Lover said: Lol you're getting personal again. I'll leave you alone. Forgot you can't handle anything other than participation trophies. Not even a lil. Just stating the natural conclusion of your argument. Patriots Scouts: Stidham is heir apparent Ovie: Stidham is trash Me: So you know more than Patriots scouts Ovie: Cause Scout’s are never wrong? Conclusion: ? Scouts can’t say Stidham is a quality QB yet it’s ok for you to blindly call him trash. Makes sense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconBlood23 Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 Of all the praise Billy boy and the Pats get for getting hella dozen draft picks, the players they actually choose tend to suck major ***. Look at the last 10 drafts and you will see horrific classes and selections. Pretty amazing how people view Billy VS TD. Hilarious actually Drew4719, UnrealfalcoN, Ovie_Lover and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ovie_Lover Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 4 minutes ago, FalconsIn2012 said: Not even a lil. Just stating the natural conclusion of your argument. Patriots Scouts: Stidham is heir apparent Ovie: Stidham is trash Me: So you know more than Patriots scouts Ovie: Cause Scout’s are never wrong? Conclusion: ? Scouts can’t say Stidham is a quality QB yet it’s ok for you to blindly call him trash. Makes sense Lol Of course. Scouts are never wrong. They're all perfect and every player is perfect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwifalcon Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 Belichicks been playing chess with the whole league never mind the narrative that he’s just played TD is that a joke. He’s been making monkeys of every coach and GM for the most part the last 2 decades. FalconsIn2012 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconBlood23 Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 4 minutes ago, kiwifalcon said: Belichicks been playing chess with the whole league never mind the narrative that he’s just played TD is that a joke. He’s been making monkeys of every coach and GM for the most part the last 2 decades. I would highly disagree. The only real reason he is successful is that he is a great coach. His actual draft picks are horrific and have been a joke since the start. GM Billy is absolute **** compared to coach Billy. I would say TD is way better at picking talent in the draft then BB. Amazing what great coaching can do isnt it Falcons_Frenzy and UnrealfalcoN 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwifalcon Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 8 minutes ago, FalconBlood23 said: I would highly disagree. The only real reason he is successful is that he is a great coach. His actual draft picks are horrific and have been a joke since the start. GM Billy is absolute **** compared to coach Billy. I would say TD is way better at picking talent in the draft then BB. Amazing what great coaching can do isnt it It’s interesting one this because he always manages to maximise what he has which can cover up a perceived weakness in the field you mention.To be fair with BB and co it’s a misnomer really because they are never in a position to pick high in the draft so don’t get a look at the talent we get to. FalconsIn2012 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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