Vandy Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 (edited) 11 hours ago, falconsd56 said: I'm not sure that he is gone either. I think that he is but I would not bet against him coming back. When you look at his final numbers....he had over 1,000 yards from scrimmage and 6 total TD's in what 13 games?.....that is not bad at all. If they can rework the contract and free (no pun intended) up some money then he stays IMO. I They could have traded him last year to lions but didn’t. I keep asking myself why they would not pull the trigger on that and then turn right around and cut him with a $6M cap hit? Edit: Makes no sense, even for falcons. Edited January 12, 2020 by Vandy Ergo Proxy, RING OF HONOR and falconsd56 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconsd56 Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 29 minutes ago, Vandy said: They could have traded him last year to lions but didn’t. I keep asking myself why they would not pull the trigger on that and then turn right around and cut him with a $6M cap hit? There is that as well Ergo Proxy and Vandy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight of God Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 We are a Ryan-centric team. We don’t need a run game. blkbigdog35 and ZoneOne01 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RING OF HONOR Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 4 minutes ago, Knight of God said: We are a Ryan-centric team. We don’t need a run game. That's what they say....and that's why we won't win... blkbigdog35 and Knight of God 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight of God Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 21 minutes ago, RING OF HONOR said: That's what they say....and that's why we won't win... Yep RING OF HONOR 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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D.B.N. Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 On 1/10/2020 at 3:32 PM, ya_boi_j said: Good with it. Not freaking out like the panic squad You just think everything’s all rosy don’t ya. Our RB situation sucks. We definitely need to add someone like Dobbins. We’d be fools not to. Vandy and ZoneOne01 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.B.N. Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 On 1/10/2020 at 7:45 PM, TheFatboi said: Needs to be Freeman/Hill/Ito/Ollison and Barner comes back as returner again. No. Just no. I have a question - do you want more of the same **** next year? Cuz it sure seems so with you suggesting the status quo. We need a dynamic back. Freeman is toast but knowing this FO they’ll still trot him out there as the starter MSalmon 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tribal Chief Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 18 minutes ago, D.B.N. said: You just think everything’s all rosy don’t ya. Our RB situation sucks. We definitely need to add someone like Dobbins. We’d be fools not to. I have no reason to think everything is rosy. Just don’t see the point in crying about any and everything that surrounds the team like you guys do. I cleansed my spirit of hate. Some of you guys should try it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vandy Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 29 minutes ago, D.B.N. said: No. Just no. I have a question - do you want more of the same **** next year? Cuz it sure seems so with you suggesting the status quo. We need a dynamic back. Freeman is toast but knowing this FO they’ll still trot him out there as the starter Would love to see a year of freeman + Dobbins combo as our 1A + 1B RBs for one season, ala 2016 with freeman + Teco. I believe it would make a huge difference on both sides (offense and defense). While A running attack Of hill/Ito/Ollie is recipe for disaster. Not “crying” about it, because I don’t believe that’ll be what we end up with Quinn/Koetter et al coaching for their jobs. D.B.N. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monolith2001 Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 (edited) The way I see it right now. Ollison 100% safe: Cheap and "at least" a capable short yardage back. Ito 95% safe: Under contract, cheap, capable when healthy and who would want him in a trade. Hill 50% bring back: Good all arounder but he'll need to be tendered (EFA) to be kept...not sure team loves him that much and I could see teams interested in a capable backup guy...like Cincy when they poached him. Kenyon Barner 25% bring back: Cap friendly 1M lockeroom guy in 2019 with good return instincts and bravery. I'd bring him back for similar money. Devonta Freeman 90% safe: We running it back...only makes sense for them to make the emotional choice. I like Free but he ain't worth $8M but this org will live with it just like paying Vic $13M. I personally want us to invest in the trenches. Do I think our RBs are just dudes...yeah kinda but I think that can work if you get a better line...we need to do that for Matt anyway. I am not interested in drafting a RB before day three. DL, OL and CB.,,maybe a safety are my focus. Edited January 12, 2020 by Monolith2001 FalconFan1st 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blkbigdog35 Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 13 hours ago, Knight of God said: We are a Ryan-centric team. We don’t need a run game. Plus we have a pass happy incompetent OC! I just hope they are watching these playoff teams that are winning and realize that having an effective run game along with good defense is the only true recipe for success! Knight of God and Vandy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFan1st Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 1 hour ago, Monolith2001 said: I personally want us to invest in the trenches. Do I think our RBs are just dudes...yeah kinda but I think that can work if you get a better line...we need to do that for Matt anyway. I am not interested in drafting a RB before day three. DL, OL and CB.,,maybe a safety are my focus. 100% agree. I think is we had an O-line that could create seams, we might find that we have a good RB already. Monolith2001 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLFalcon36 Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 Najee Harris, JK Dobbins or bust. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSalmon Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 On 1/10/2020 at 7:45 PM, TheFatboi said: Needs to be Freeman/Hill/Ito/Ollison and Barner comes back as returner again. Nah. That’s an overpaid and slowing former star, a constant IR guy who should retire, Zach Crockett Jr in Ollie who is better at FB, and Hill who is junk respectfully, no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSalmon Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 2 hours ago, Monolith2001 said: The way I see it right now. Ollison 100% safe: Cheap and "at least" a capable short yardage back. EDIT: Probably a full back Ito 95% safe: Under contract, cheap, capable when healthy and who would want him in a trade. EDIT: Can’t stay off IR and sucks Hill 50% bring back: Good all arounder but he'll need to be tendered (EFA) to be kept...not sure team loves him that much and I could see teams interested in a capable backup guy...like Cincy when they poached him. EDIT: A JAG Kenyon Barner 25% bring back: Cap friendly 1M lockeroom guy in 2019 with good return instincts and bravery. I'd bring him back for similar money. EDIT: Sure Devonta Freeman 90% safe: We running it back...only makes sense for them to make the emotional choice. I like Free but he ain't worth $8M but this org will live with it just like paying Vic $13M. EDIT: I HOPE NOT I personally want us to invest in the trenches. Do I think our RBs are just dudes...yeah kinda but I think that can work if you get a better line...we need to do that for Matt anyway. I am not interested in drafting a RB before day three. (EDIT: Youre way off, too good a rb class to not add a stud DL, OL and CB.,,maybe a safety are my focus. (EDIT: WE HAVE MULTIPLE PICKS AND NEED A STUD RB) I fixed it for you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monolith2001 Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 2 hours ago, MSalmon said: I fixed it for you LOL. I ain't really predicting, just throwing random thoughts out there of what I think the team might do. I'm only standing behind not wanting a RB before day three. There are no stud RBs who can block for themselves and those who can create tend to get beat up behind poor line blocking. Get the lines half way straight and the rest will fall into place. MSalmon 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSalmon Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 11 minutes ago, Monolith2001 said: LOL. I ain't really predicting, just throwing random thoughts out there of what I think the team might do. I'm only standing behind not wanting a RB before day three. There are no stud RBs who can block for themselves and those who can create tend to get beat up behind poor line blocking. Get the lines half way straight and the rest will fall into place. Ha ha fair enough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herr Beast Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 Personally I think all our RBs are below average. None of them has any kind of breakaway speed. A perfectly executed play can not go longer than 20 yards because of the lack of end speed on all of them. This is just so different to what the 49ers have. The RBs who can hit a home run on any given down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazoo Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 I want one of our top 3 picks be a feature RB. Time to take the burden of the entire offense off the back of Ryan’s arm. Vandy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EZfalcons Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 I like ollison and hill for depth and barber for return purposes and maybe in the screen game but that's it. I appreciate freeman for what he has given us but he definitely isn't worth the contract and there are better options in the draft with etienne, dobbins, swift, taylor, Hubbard, and others Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLskinjob Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 Honestly this entire discussion is pretty much irrelevant as long as Koetter is unwilling to commit to the run game. We really committed to the run game ONE time last season, and that was the first game versus the Saints, and it worked really well. It's **** near impossible to judge our running backs based on last season's volume and scheme and how bad our o-line looked without Lindstrom. That being said, Ito looks to be the most consistent and professional of our running backs, but for some reason I like him the least. He just doesn't seem to shine in any one area, and I don't particularly like his size or speed. Hill has shown I think the most promising flashes, but that's just it. They're only flashes. If he could be consistent I think he would be our best back. I like what I've seen from Ollison, but there's no way you can make a judgement call on him without seeing him be the lead back in a game. I think he would be the type that could break down a defense by the third or fourth quarter and just demoralize them and break out some big gains. Unfortunately, I think Freeman just might be done. He can still make some good cuts and jump into a nice hole, but he lacks that insane acceleration that he used to have. I love the guy, and I hope it's just a down year for him, but Hill just looked so much better every time he subbed in for him. So in summation, the O-line and scheme needs to get in place. You can't have a good running game without actually committing to it schematically, but that's completely on Koetter. After that though, I would like to see Ollison as the lead back to wear out opposing defenses, with Hill as the change of pace back that can break off a 30 yard run or two per game. But again, Koetter's biggest challenge is committing to the run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blizzard_falcon Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 Pretty sure we'll be drafting a running back in Rounds 2-4 with one of our four selections there. Freeman has to be gone at this point as a cap casualty, hopefully with the June 1st designation to save even more money. As more of a dark horse pick, I really like Eno Benjamin in the 4th round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcons Fan MVP Posted January 13, 2020 Author Share Posted January 13, 2020 On 1/11/2020 at 9:31 PM, Knight of God said: We are a Ryan-centric team. We don’t need a run game. I think they trust Freeman to block more than the other running backs. He is also a good receiver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
autigerfan Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 We really didnt miss a beat without Free last year. Time to move on. I would still draft someone to compete with the holdovers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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