FalconsIn2012 Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 All we have heard since last year was the #1 priority is protecting Ryan. A close second on the list was improving the run game. A year after allowing 130 QB hits and 50 sacks along with a bottom 3 run game one has to wonder: how is Chris Morgan still employed by the Falcons? Callahan is available and his style is a perfect blend of Shanny/Koetter systems. The #4 and #9 ranked OL coaches are free agents.. Unfortunately it appears we are good rolling with the 29th ranked coach on the list Borat, gtech1, Francis York Morgan and 11 others 14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFanSince1969 Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 How do we know that either have any interest in coming here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconsIn2012 Posted January 7, 2020 Author Share Posted January 7, 2020 3 minutes ago, FalconFanSince1969 said: How do we know that either have any interest in coming here? They are unemployed. Heistand might prefer going back to ND....but Callahan is looking for work. Probably back to Dallas Borat and Ergo Proxy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFanSince1969 Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 Also I thought Tom cable was one of the better ol coaches?? Club212 and FalconsIn2012 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFanSince1969 Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 1 minute ago, FalconsIn2012 said: They are unemployed. Heistand might prefer going back to ND....but Callahan is looking for work. Probably back to Dallas Why would you want to go to a place where the whole coaching staff could be gone in a year though? Uproot your family, go thru all of that, for one year?? I wouldn't want to come here under those circumstances. papachaz and Club212 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconsIn2012 Posted January 7, 2020 Author Share Posted January 7, 2020 3 minutes ago, FalconFanSince1969 said: Why would you want to go to a place where the whole coaching staff could be gone in a year though? Uproot your family, go thru all of that, for one year?? I wouldn't want to come here under those circumstances. That’s a losing mentality. These guys assume they will win at every stop. papachaz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFanSince1969 Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 1 minute ago, FalconsIn2012 said: That’s a losing mentality. These guys assume they will win at every stop. They're also looking at all these teams without coaching staffs right now. Who've they worked with before? Where can multiple years of job security be offered? What exactly does Atlanta offer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconsIn2012 Posted January 7, 2020 Author Share Posted January 7, 2020 9 minutes ago, FalconFanSince1969 said: Also I thought Tom cable was one of the better ol coaches?? He had a turnaround this year. But overall he has been bad Ergo Proxy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATL_666 Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 Agreed. We desperately need a new OL coach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Don™ Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 If the priority was protecting Ryan, then we wouldn’t have hired Koetter. kschreck, Francis York Morgan, Lethal and 9 others 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconsIn2012 Posted January 7, 2020 Author Share Posted January 7, 2020 53 minutes ago, The Don™ said: If the priority was protecting Ryan, then we wouldn’t have hired Koetter. There is that, too.... Rings, kschreck and Ergo Proxy 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rings Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 58 minutes ago, The Don™ said: If the priority was protecting Ryan, then we wouldn’t have hired Koetter. Ding ding ding. We have a winner. If Ryan did have a say in who we hired last year, he has to be regretting it after getting his you know what handed to him all season. FalconsIn2012 and Ergo Proxy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwifalcon Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 Have to say there putting a lot of value on this continuity line. Scratching head and wondering I must be looking at something different. These have to be DQ decisions also they have to be.God I hope he’s right I really do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
primetime Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 2 hours ago, Rings said: Ding ding ding. We have a winner. If Ryan did have a say in who we hired last year, he has to be regretting it after getting his you know what handed to him all season. Ryan is pretty tough. Maybe he prioritised not having to learn a new Offence (again) over taking extra hits. With our oline historically he is probably well used to QBs pressures/hits Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcons_Frenzy Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 Someone forward this to Mr. Blank please. Ergo Proxy and FalconsIn2012 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vandy Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 8 hours ago, FalconFanSince1969 said: Why would you want to go to a place where the whole coaching staff could be gone in a year though? Uproot your family, go thru all of that, for one year?? I wouldn't want to come here under those circumstances. Well, that’s the life of every coach. They know better than we do...tomarrow is promised to no one. FalconsIn2012 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vandy Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 7 hours ago, The Don™ said: If the priority was protecting Ryan, then we wouldn’t have hired Koetter. LOL. Truth. FalconsIn2012 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDirtyWordII Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 Do you have the stats/figures for 2019? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiler11 Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 Whilst I agree, it's hard to separate the performance of the O-Line from the scheme and offensive play-calling. How much of the fault lies with Morgan vs Koetter? Morgan is the same guy we were all lauding following the 2016 season. JDaveG 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconsIn2012 Posted January 7, 2020 Author Share Posted January 7, 2020 41 minutes ago, TheDirtyWordII said: Do you have the stats/figures for 2019? It’s not updated for 2019 yet. But the list posted is a cumulative list since 2004 (when the pass happy era really arrived). So it measures the entire coaches career since 2004. Ergo Proxy, TheDirtyWordII and Francis York Morgan 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thamill Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 9 hours ago, FalconFanSince1969 said: Why would you want to go to a place where the whole coaching staff could be gone in a year though? Uproot your family, go thru all of that, for one year?? I wouldn't want to come here under those circumstances. If "NOT" moving their families was the biggest priority of coaches...they probably wouldn't be coaches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDaveG Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 54 minutes ago, Smiler11 said: Whilst I agree, it's hard to separate the performance of the O-Line from the scheme and offensive play-calling. How much of the fault lies with Morgan vs Koetter? Morgan is the same guy we were all lauding following the 2016 season. This. Koetter does very little to help the o-line schematically. Morgan may be an awful o-line coach, but Koetter doesn't make his job easy at all. It's the hole in Koetter's system -- you have to have impeccable protection to run it. And even though he's putatively running our system, the misdirection, outside zone setups, motion, etc. are just not there to help protect the o-line. I mean, they're there, but he doesn't call them. Even though it is a Coryell staple (and one adopted by Sean Payton, as one example), we rarely chip pass rushers on the way out into pass routes. We just let them run free. Which is great if someone is open, and Ryan has time to figure out who and get the ball out. But it sucks when anything goes the slightest bit wrong. There just isn't a lot of room for error in what is already a low percentage offense in terms of play-to-play positive yardage. The theory is you make it up over the course of a game by getting chunk yardage, but there is no reason to maintain a 1970s mindset in a 21st century game. We ought to be doing a lot more to protect the o-line, and we just don't. Hopefully that will be addressed in the offseason. FalconsIn2012, vel, Francis York Morgan and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDirtyWordII Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 22 minutes ago, FalconsIn2012 said: It’s not updated for 2019 yet. But the list posted is a cumulative list since 2004 (when the pass happy era really arrived). So it measures the entire coaches career since 2004. Got it...I’ve never seen this measurement. Is it a complex calculation? FalconsIn2012 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconsIn2012 Posted January 7, 2020 Author Share Posted January 7, 2020 10 minutes ago, JDaveG said: There just isn't a lot of room for error in what is already a low percentage offense in terms of play-to-play positive yardage. The theory is you make it up over the course of a game by getting chunk yardage, but there is no reason to maintain a 1970s mindset in a 21st century game. We ought to be doing a lot more to protect the o-line, and we just don't. Hopefully that will be addressed in the offseason. The true anomaly is the Falcons has the fewest explosive plays in the NFL in 2019. Francis York Morgan, Ergo Proxy and JDaveG 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconsIn2012 Posted January 7, 2020 Author Share Posted January 7, 2020 Sometimes it’s frustrating when you see how high the expectations were just 6 months ago. Here are the NFL offensive rankings heading into preseason game #1: NFL's top nine offenses for 2019 season: Falcons own No. 1 spot 1) Atlanta Falcons Steve Sarkisian is no longer calling the plays, and that's a good thing. The return of Dirk Koetter makes it even better. Matt Ryan remains one of the more strangely overlooked superstar quarterbacks in the NFL. Since 2010, the season in which Ryan nabbed his first of four Pro Bowl bids, the Falcons signal-caller ranks top five in passing yards (second), passing touchdowns (fifth), wins (fifth), fourth-quarter comebacks (second) and game-winning drives (third). He earned league MVP honors during a prolific 2016 campaign -- and actually posted comparable numbers last season, but didn't get the credit he deserved because the Falcons didn't win enough games (thanks, largely, to an injury-riddled defense that couldn't stop anyone). One problem Ryan did encounter last season: constant pressure, as evidenced by the QB taking 42 sacks, the second-highest total of his career. General manager Thomas Dimitroff wisely went right at this issue, selecting a pair of offensive linemen in the first round of April's draft: OG Chris Lindstrom and OT Kaleb McGary. While McGary recently underwent a minimally invasive heart procedure, he's back with the teamand Falcons coach Dan Quinn says doctors are "pleased" with the hulking OT's progress. Meanwhile, Lindstrom's running with the 1s, and the athletic blocker's turning heads in the process. If Ryan gets solid protection in 2019, watch out -- especially given all the weapons the QB has at his disposal ... Is there a better receiving trio in the NFL today than Julio Jones, Calvin Ridley and Mohamed Sanu? Jones just became the first player in NFL history to log five straight seasons of 1,400-plus receiving yards, while Ridley scored 10 touchdowns in his rookie campaign. Sanu's the jack of all trades, an ideal WR3 who can get the tough yards, make the crucial block -- and even throw the key pass. Devonta Freeman, the highly paid running back who's missed 16 games over the past two seasons, is healthy again, having participated in the entire offseason program. This is no small thing: In his last two healthy campaigns of 2015 and '16, Freeman averaged 1,068 rushing yards, 64 catches and 14 total touchdowns, making the Pro Bowlin each season. Lastly, 24-year-old tight end Austin Hooper is fresh off his first Pro Bowl season. Bottom line: This offense is poised to reach new heights in the coming months. 2) Kansas City Chiefs Francis York Morgan, Ergo Proxy, Lethal and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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