Ergo Proxy Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 18 minutes ago, Rings said: He hasn’t been running Shannahan’s system hardly at all. Majority of this years were his plays, from his playbook. Outside of week 16, watch how the line is blocking, the WR screens instead of RB, the lack of under center, low usage of FB. This is 80%+ Dirks system. Again, even if it wasn’t, he hasn’t had a top 20 run game in a decade, it’s not like he had been good and then fell off this year. Exactly. Pretty much how I saw the offense this year. Francis York Morgan, Cole World and Rings 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLSlobberKnockers Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 OL just became priority above all else Ergo Proxy, JDaveG, Pacific_Falcon and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ergo Proxy Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 4 minutes ago, ATLSlobberKnockers said: OL just became priority above all else any news? or status quo? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLSlobberKnockers Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 44 minutes ago, RubberDucky said: Someone needs to take DK out to the Mojave Desert and have him smoke some Peyote. Maybe he will have a spiritual vision that leads him to retirement...or open creativity portion of his brain, leading to a potent offensive attack. 3 hours ago, Falcanuck said: Holy **** what a combo Watch them go to CAR. why wouldn't you want this tandem to.coach your team. Jesus I'm sick FalconsIn2012 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUTiger7222 Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 4 hours ago, Artys Arryn said: Disappointing. Especially considering Kellen Moore was just fired. Would have loved to see what he could do with our offense. Why does everyone love Kellen Moore so much? He has proven absolutely nothing. Boise Falcon Fan and 4LoveoftheGame 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUTiger7222 Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 Having Dirk Koetter as OC is like handing the keys of a Ferrari to a 90 year old guy who's afraid to drive faster than 30 mph. Ergo Proxy, Rings and 4LoveoftheGame 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UGABOZ Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 5 hours ago, Peteshweddy said: Ugh.... the moment you realize that the future hall of famers we have playing for us will more than likely never sniff the Super Bowl again.... -not to mention our suffering through his garbage as fans. yep so sad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesus Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 Just now, AUTiger7222 said: Why does everyone love Kellen Moore so much? He has proven absolutely nothing. His name has more vowels per word than any other coordinator. mar31985, Atl Falcon, papachaz and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dem Birds Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 27 minutes ago, Rings said: He hasn’t been running Shannahan’s system hardly at all. Majority of this years were his plays, from his playbook. Outside of week 16, watch how the line is blocking, the WR screens instead of RB, the lack of under center, low usage of FB. This is 80%+ Dirks system. Again, even if it wasn’t, he hasn’t had a top 20 run game in a decade, it’s not like he had been good and then fell off this year. He's certainly implemented his own stuff but they've talked about how he's adopted Kyle's system. It's clearly a hybrid at best though. I do miss the usage of the fullback but DiMarco was a good receiver, Keith Smith, I don't know. He doesn't have a history being such I don't believe. Either way, Koetter isn't the end of the world and if you don't have Kyle Shanahan on tap then I don't see any other better options that wouldn't cause massive changes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rings Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 45 minutes ago, Dem Birds said: He's certainly implemented his own stuff but they've talked about how he's adopted Kyle's system. It's clearly a hybrid at best though. I do miss the usage of the fullback but DiMarco was a good receiver, Keith Smith, I don't know. He doesn't have a history being such I don't believe. Either way, Koetter isn't the end of the world and if you don't have Kyle Shanahan on tap then I don't see any other better options that wouldn't cause massive changes I know they talked about it going into the season how it was going to be Kyle's system, have they talked about it more since? They also said balance matters before the season and they were the least balanced team from a run/pass perspective and one of the worst in short/deep passes as well. Cole World, Ergo Proxy and papachaz 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matty ICE Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 I mean, the alternative is Matt leaning a new system yet AGAIN. Look at Shanahan's diff between year 1 and 2... I will keep hope alive like the fool I am Dem Birds 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snafu Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 (edited) 5 hours ago, FalconsIn2012 said: Meanwhile, some team is going to get one heck of a combination of coaches. This is great for the Falcons. If DQ has another poor showing and Brady produces a great NFL offense, we could poach him. Edited December 31, 2019 by RubberDucky FalconsIn2012 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ltstorm2 Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 This thread has two things going for it. 1. The highest # of Ms. Cleo's I think has ever been in a thread and 2. The potential to be the biggest helping of crow ever served up. JDaveG 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dem Birds Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 1 hour ago, Rings said: I know they talked about it going into the season how it was going to be Kyle's system, have they talked about it more since? They also said balance matters before the season and they were the least balanced team from a run/pass perspective and one of the worst in short/deep passes as well. Well score has certainly dictated the imbalance. I think that's certainly fair to say. They were a perfect 30/30 run and pass yesterday I believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Don™ Posted December 31, 2019 Author Share Posted December 31, 2019 5 minutes ago, ltstorm2 said: This thread has two things going for it. 1. The highest # of Ms. Cleo's I think has ever been in a thread and 2. The potential to be the biggest helping of crow ever served up. Trust me I would love to eat crow about Dirk. 4LoveoftheGame, Rings, Cole World and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis York Morgan Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 7 minutes ago, Dem Birds said: Well score has certainly dictated the imbalance. I think that's certainly fair to say. They were a perfect 30/30 run and pass yesterday I believe. They were 70/30 pass/run while up 24-6 on the Jags. And yesterday, they had 51 passes to 30 runs. DK can't be balanced. It's not in his DNA. JDaveG, Pacific_Falcon and Cole World 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artys Arryn Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 1 hour ago, AUTiger7222 said: Why does everyone love Kellen Moore so much? He has proven absolutely nothing. First year as an OC: 27.1 Points per game (6th) - Falcons were 13th 431 Yards per game (1st) - Falcons were 5th 296 Passing YPG (2nd) - Falcons were 3rd 134.6 Rushing YPG (5th) - Falcons were 30th 49 TDs compared to the Falcons 42 TDs. Again this was as a first year OC. Don't know how Kellen wouldn't be a direct upgrade over Koetter. Rings 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rings Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 2 hours ago, Dem Birds said: Well score has certainly dictated the imbalance. I think that's certainly fair to say. They were a perfect 30/30 run and pass yesterday I believe. Over the last decade he is ranked 20th in % of run plays called...this isn’t just a one year sample size. AUTiger7222 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUTiger7222 Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, Artys Arryn said: First year as an OC: 27.1 Points per game (6th) - Falcons were 13th 431 Yards per game (1st) - Falcons were 5th 296 Passing YPG (2nd) - Falcons were 3rd 134.6 Rushing YPG (5th) - Falcons were 30th 49 TDs compared to the Falcons 42 TDs. Again this was as a first year OC. Don't know how Kellen wouldn't be a direct upgrade over Koetter. It doesn't take much to be an upgrade over Koetter. Cowboys offense had quite a few games that they lost because of the offense doing nothing. Cowboys had 4 games this year where they scored 10 or fewer points and another where they scored only 15. In the Cowboys 8 losses this year they averaged a measley 17.1 PPG. Cowboys lost 3 games this year when they gave up 12, 13, and 17 points. No team should lose games when the defense plays that well. Those losses fall directly on Kellen Moore. If Moore was a better OC the Cowboys would be in the playoffs. Moore needs to prove himself over more than just one year. There's better options out there. Your post is the exact reason I don't post much anymore. All you're looking at is what you want to see and not the entire picture. The entire picture would tell you that while Kellen Moore shows great potential as an OC he still has too many red flags that should be worked out first. Let him work out those issues somewhere else. I don't understand why it's so hard for some people to be objective and look at the entire body of work when discussing things. This place would be so much more enjoyable if people would do that instead of only seeing what they want to see. Edited December 31, 2019 by AUTiger7222 papachaz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papachaz Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 16 hours ago, Smiler11 said: Sigh Maybe Dirk will hand over play calling to someone else mid-season and we'll miraculously see a turnaround. Genuinely the most underwhelmed I've ever felt going into a new season. I'm keeping hope alive that one of the colleges with a HC vacancy want him and he leaves on his own Boise Falcon Fan, Peteshweddy, Smiler11 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis York Morgan Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 3 hours ago, papachaz said: I'm keeping hope alive that one of the colleges with a HC vacancy want him and he leaves on his own That would be incredible tbh Peteshweddy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boise Falcon Fan Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 14 hours ago, AUTiger7222 said: Why does everyone love Kellen Moore so much? He has proven absolutely nothing. I know. I loved the guy at BSU, but come on... AUTiger7222 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boise Falcon Fan Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 3 hours ago, papachaz said: I'm keeping hope alive that one of the colleges with a HC vacancy want him and he leaves on his own This could definitely happen, especially if Harsin were to leave BSU. papachaz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boise Falcon Fan Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 9 hours ago, AUTiger7222 said: It doesn't take much to be an upgrade over Koetter. Cowboys offense had quite a few games that they lost because of the offense doing nothing. Cowboys had 4 games this year where they scored 10 or fewer points and another where they scored only 15. In the Cowboys 8 losses this year they averaged a measley 17.1 PPG. Cowboys lost 3 games this year when they gave up 12, 13, and 17 points. No team should lose games when the defense plays that well. Those losses fall directly on Kellen Moore. If Moore was a better OC the Cowboys would be in the playoffs. Moore needs to prove himself over more than just one year. There's better options out there. Your post is the exact reason I don't post much anymore. All you're looking at is what you want to see and not the entire picture. The entire picture would tell you that while Kellen Moore shows great potential as an OC he still has too many red flags that should be worked out first. Let him work out those issues somewhere else. I don't understand why it's so hard for some people to be objective and look at the entire body of work when discussing things. This place would be so much more enjoyable if people would do that instead of only seeing what they want to see. KM had a MUCH better OL, and a MUCH better RB. Having protection and a running game makes things a lot easier to call plays. AUTiger7222 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boise Falcon Fan Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 12 hours ago, Francis York Morgan said: They were 70/30 pass/run while up 24-6 on the Jags. And yesterday, they had 51 passes to 30 runs. DK can't be balanced. It's not in his DNA. I am totally happy with 51/30 split. 30 carries in a game is a lot. falconsd56 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.