Arthur Blank must think we’re fools.

[KRUNKuno]

Arthur Blank...I have never bad mouthed this gentlemen.  He’s a standup guy and what he’s done outside of sports for this city is truly the work of a man that believes there’s more to this life than oneself.

HOWEVER...

With this decision Blank feels like he’s the smartest man in the room, and that we, the paying fans, are misinformed.

1.  Blank talks about having continuity.  Continuity is all well and good when it isn’t inconsistent continuity.  Dan Quinn has shown he is a coach of big highs and huge lows.  6-2 to 2-6, 28-3, 1-7 to 7-9 or whatever, last year when the excuse was our team was injured yet you see a coach like Doug Pederson or Mike Tomlin make lemon meringue pie out of the lemons they’ve been dealt.  People point to Sean Payton, but guess what, SEAN PAYTON WON A SUPER BOWL!  Had Quinn not blown 28-3 then he could have all of the extra chances without any backlash.  Instead we got the worst sports collapse ever documented, and excuses to follow.  What about Tennessee’s consistency with Jeff Fisher?  Dallas’s consistency with Jason Garrett?  Consistency is only as good as the results that come from it.

2.  Blank talks about turning the season around after being 1-7...well how did we get to 1-7 in the first place?  Are we not holding this regime accountable for their flaws, or are we just glossing over glaring deficiencies to keep about a good ol’ boy status quo?  I continue to say that this is the reason the players even love Quinn so much...because they know they will not be held accountable for their mistakes.  They get claps and cheers when they come back to the sideline no matter what happens.  They do not have to play at a high level consistently because their coach doesn’t coach at a high level consistently.  He doesn’t demand greatness, but rather finds joy in being a motivational guy that builds men to go out into the world and be great men.

3.  This shifting of the chain of command...once again... now TD and Quinn report to good ol Rich McKay.  Is this supposed to be why we are not consistent?  Why is it so difficult for Blank to let these retreads go?  Why is it always a change in title rather than just letting these men go?  This again is Blank feeling as if he’s the smartest man in the room.  He genuinely believes he has the right group of guys and continues to try to sell us on these guys being good for this team.

The SOLE REASON we win games is because of two people...Matt Ryan and Julio Jones.  I’d love to see how great of a coach Quinn would be without Matt.  Could he lead them to a super bowl like Pederson?  Could he continue to be in playoff talk like Tomlin?  Matt and Julio are the guys that were winning games before Quinn and can win them in spite and of Quinn.  You tell me about that time you said “man, Dan Quinn really won that game for us”.  The success of this team doesn’t ride on Dan Quinn, and as we’ve seen with a coach like Boy Wonder, if you get a guy in here that will PUSH the players as he pushed and demanded excellence from this offense then high results will come of it.  

The purpose of a coach isn’t to be a cheerleader, but to enhance a team.  I see no way that Quinn enhances this team, and Blank is trying to sell us on Quinn being something more than what he is.  He thinks we’re fools, but when his stadium is at 30% capacity again maybe...just maybe the light will turn on in his billionaire brain.

Not a rant, just facts.

[Big Ben Right]

in this case ,Continuity also includes continuing to play on national NFL tv showing a 70 % empty stadium. And it's gonna get worse

[Rings]

It isn’t “facts” at all, majority of what you said is speculation based off of press conferences and hearsay.  We have no clue what goes on behind closed doors.

[KRUNKuno]

8 minutes ago, Rings said:

It isn’t “facts” at all, majority of what you said is speculation based off of press conferences and hearsay.  We have no clue what goes on behind closed doors.

Call it what you want

[Tribal Chief]

+1 just for spacing between paragraphs 

[stlouisfalcon]

45 minutes ago, KRUNKuno said:

Arthur Blank...I have never bad mouthed this gentlemen.  He’s a standup guy and what he’s done outside of sports for this city is truly the work of a man that believes there’s more to this life than oneself.

HOWEVER...

With this decision Blank feels like he’s the smartest man in the room, and that we, the paying fans, are misinformed.

1.  Blank talks about having continuity.  Continuity is all well and good when it isn’t inconsistent continuity.  Dan Quinn has shown he is a coach of big highs and huge lows.  6-2 to 2-6, 28-3, 1-7 to 7-9 or whatever, last year when the excuse was our team was injured yet you see a coach like Doug Pederson or Mike Tomlin make lemon meringue pie out of the lemons they’ve been dealt.  People point to Sean Payton, but guess what, SEAN PAYTON WON A SUPER BOWL!  Had Quinn not blown 28-3 then he could have all of the extra chances without any backlash.  Instead we got the worst sports collapse ever documented, and excuses to follow.  What about Tennessee’s consistency with Jeff Fisher?  Dallas’s consistency with Jason Garrett?  Consistency is only as good as the results that come from it.

2.  Blank talks about turning the season around after being 1-7...well how did we get to 1-7 in the first place?  Are we not holding this regime accountable for their flaws, or are we just glossing over glaring deficiencies to keep about a good ol’ boy status quo?  I continue to say that this is the reason the players even love Quinn so much...because they know they will not be held accountable for their mistakes.  They get claps and cheers when they come back to the sideline no matter what happens.  They do not have to play at a high level consistently because their coach doesn’t coach at a high level consistently.  He doesn’t demand greatness, but rather finds joy in being a motivational guy that builds men to go out into the world and be great men.

3.  This shifting of the chain of command...once again... now TD and Quinn report to good ol Rich McKay.  Is this supposed to be why we are not consistent?  Why is it so difficult for Blank to let these retreads go?  Why is it always a change in title rather than just letting these men go?  This again is Blank feeling as if he’s the smartest man in the room.  He genuinely believes he has the right group of guys and continues to try to sell us on these guys being good for this team.

The SOLE REASON we win games is because of two people...Matt Ryan and Julio Jones.  I’d love to see how great of a coach Quinn would be without Matt.  Could he lead them to a super bowl like Pederson?  Could he continue to be in playoff talk like Tomlin?  Matt and Julio are the guys that were winning games before Quinn and can win them in spite and of Quinn.  You tell me about that time you said “man, Dan Quinn really won that game for us”.  The success of this team doesn’t ride on Dan Quinn, and as we’ve seen with a coach like Boy Wonder, if you get a guy in here that will PUSH the players as he pushed and demanded excellence from this offense then high results will come of it.  

The purpose of a coach isn’t to be a cheerleader, but to enhance a team.  I see no way that Quinn enhances this team, and Blank is trying to sell us on Quinn being something more than what he is.  He thinks we’re fools, but when his stadium is at 30% capacity again maybe...just maybe the light will turn on in his billionaire brain.

Not a rant, just facts.

Right on, man!!

[thofin21]

Let's not forget the excellent hotdogs. 

[PokerSteve]

41 minutes ago, shanep said:

in this case ,Continuity also includes continuing to play on national NFL tv showing a 70 % empty stadium. And it's gonna get worse

Agree. I really thought the embarrassment of the weekly tv shot of a sparsely populated MBS would be enough to dissuade Blank from sticking with Quinn and TD. PSL defaults are already skyrocketing. A 1-4 start to next season could launch an all-out revolt and turn Blank's Barn into a virtual wasteland on game days.

[g-dawg]

I am agnostic on retaining Quinn/Dimitroff.    The Falcons aren't in a great spot now with the salary cap and aging stars and the future is far from certain.   There is talent on the roster and DQ/TD brought most of that talent in.    While there are missing ingredients to this team, I still don't see  "cleaning house" as some magic elixer at turning the franchise around quickly.

THE ONLY QUESTON:  Is blowing out/firing Quinn/Dimitroff/Coaching Staff and bringing in a brand new team to be the new football operation for 2020 the best way to go for 2020 - OR -  is it better for 2020 by maintaining the status quo w/ changes made in 2nd half of the season?

ANSWER:   For 2020 only, I believe it an easy call to maintain "status quo" - this continuity gives the team the best chance to perform and hopefully "start fast" in 2020 - as opposed to new coaches, new systems, new atmosphere and new  culture.

 

Obviously if we get mediocrity the way we have the last two years, then it is safe to say we delayed the purge needed/required on doing the partial rebuild -  it's a gamble either way and I don't like the last two years any better than any of you - maybe this back half of 2019 is "fools gold" but I think this he higher percentage move.

Now, if we are 2-7 or 3-6 heading into the bye week next year, Blank will likely pull the trigger on firing Quinn early and be working on replacement for Dimitroff - I am sure both know this is their last shot to get it done in Atlanta.

[Mr.11]

1 hour ago, KRUNKuno said:

2.  Blank talks about turning the season around after being 1-7...well how did we get to 1-7 in the first place?  Are we not holding this regime accountable for their flaws, or are we just glossing over glaring deficiencies to keep about a good ol’ boy status quo?  I continue to say that this is the reason the players even love Quinn so much...because they know they will not be held accountable for their mistakes.  They get claps and cheers when they come back to the sideline no matter what happens.  They do not have to play at a high level consistently because their coach doesn’t coach at a high level consistently.  He doesn’t demand greatness, but rather finds joy in being a motivational guy that builds men to go out into the world and be great men.

Just found it a little amusing how paradoxical this statement is.

[stizz]

EVERY year anyone that isn't a starter looks totally out of place in the preseason. That's coaching. You think Belichick thinks the preseason doesn't matter? We are never prepared to begin a season. Eagles we failed on the goalline, Vikings we got ran out of the building. The players love him because he's a softie who isn't demanding the most out of his players. 

[Lethal]

If AB reads these boards semi-frequently, you are right, he probably thinks we are fools.

[PokerSteve]

15 minutes ago, g-dawg said:

I am agnostic on retaining Quinn/Dimitroff.    The Falcons aren't in a great spot and the future is far from certain.   There is talent on the roster and DQ/TD brought most of that talent in.    While it does seem there are missing ingredients to this team but I don't see cleaning house as some magic elixer at turning the Titanic around.

THE ONLY QUESTON:  Is blowing out/firing Quinn/Dimitroff/Coaching Staff and bringing in a brand new team to be the new football operation for 2020 the best way to go for 2020 - OR -  is it better for 2020 by maintaining the status quo w/ changes made in 2nd half of the season?

ANSWER:   For 2020 only, I believe it an easy call to maintain "status quo" - this continuity gives the team the best chance to perform and hopefully "start fast" in 2020 - as opposed to new coaches, new systems, new atmosphere and new  culture.

 

Obviously if we get mediocrity the way we have the last two years, then it is safe to say we delayed the purge needed/required on doing the partial rebuild -  it's a gamble either way and I don't like the last two years any better than any of you - maybe this back half of 2019 is "fools gold" but I think this he higher percentage move.

Now, if we are 2-7 or 3-6 heading into the bye week next year, Blank will likely pull the trigger on firing Quinn early and be working on replacement for Dimitroff - I am sure both know this is their last shot to get it done in Atlanta.

Agree with you cleaning house would not have guaranteed any improvement. Could've easily caused a regression, although it's hard to regress from back to back seasons of 7 wins and out of the play-offs very, very early on.

You really want to believe the two huge wins over NO and San Fran in the back-half actually means something positive for this team, but Quinn's teams seem to run either red-hot or ice-cold. I'm sure everybody at Flowery Branch is praying for a hot start to next year or all these platitudes about the merits of continuity are going to seem absolutely absurd in hindsight.

[Tribal Chief]

33 minutes ago, stlouisfalcon said:

Right on, man!!

Why? Just why? Smfh

[PokerSteve]

8 minutes ago, athell said:

If AB reads these boards semi-frequently, you are right, he probably thinks we are fools.

And he probably doesn't even care that the feeling is mutual.

[kschreck]

 

6 minutes ago, ya_boi_j said:

Why? Just why? Smfh

 

never fails, does it?

[Tribal Chief]

2 minutes ago, kschreck said:

 

 

never fails, does it?

Man oh man. No one cares

[PokerSteve]

7 minutes ago, ya_boi_j said:

Man oh man. No one cares

Not to derail your post, but love the videos you include. I hope peeps are taking the time to enjoy them. I know I am. Shake'em On Down is rather appropriate!

[nomak]

25 minutes ago, stizz said:

EVERY year anyone that isn't a starter looks totally out of place in the preseason. That's coaching. You think Belichick thinks the preseason doesn't matter? We are never prepared to begin a season. Eagles we failed on the goalline, Vikings we got ran out of the building. The players love him because he's a softie who isn't demanding the most out of his players. 

Softie...bull crap. Grown men shouldn't need a coach demanding anything, they should do their job. However, I believe Quinn demands the very best.  I know, I know we want a Herm Edwards type of blow-up during a press conference.  That isn't going to happen with Quinn. 

[g-dawg]

19 minutes ago, PokerSteve said:

Agree with you cleaning house would not have guaranteed any improvement. Could've easily caused a regression, although it's hard to regress from back to back seasons of 7 wins and out of the play-offs very, very early on.

You really want to believe the two huge wins over NO and San Fran in the back-half actually means something positive for this team, but Quinn's teams seem to run either red-hot or ice-cold. I'm sure everybody at Flowery Branch is praying for a hot start to next year or all these platitudes about the merits of continuity are going to seem absolutely absurd in hindsight.

I don't think it an entire coincidence the Falcons have regressed since the move from the GA dome to the Mercedes stadium.   While I don't believe in magic in a building/structure itself - the PSL's and the empty seats have made it where the Falcons have no advantage playing home games from the crowd.   While just ONE factor in a host of many - this factor goes largely w/o comment from TATF other than the basic fan complaints - it does affect the team as well.

[Tribal Chief]

1 minute ago, PokerSteve said:

Not to derail your post, but love the videos you include. I hope peeps are taking the time to enjoy them. I know I am. Shake'em On Down is rather appropriate!

[Califalcon0013]

The tears all over the boards this morning lol.they should look at the bright side if they truly believe Quinn cant get it done this is his last year (2020).

[UGABOZ]

Post of the day bingo and dead on 

[TheDirtyWordII]

48 minutes ago, g-dawg said:

I am agnostic on retaining Quinn/Dimitroff.    The Falcons aren't in a great spot now with the salary cap and aging stars and the future is far from certain.   There is talent on the roster and DQ/TD brought most of that talent in.    While there are missing ingredients to this team, I still don't see  "cleaning house" as some magic elixer at turning the franchise around quickly.

THE ONLY QUESTON:  Is blowing out/firing Quinn/Dimitroff/Coaching Staff and bringing in a brand new team to be the new football operation for 2020 the best way to go for 2020 - OR -  is it better for 2020 by maintaining the status quo w/ changes made in 2nd half of the season?

ANSWER:   For 2020 only, I believe it an easy call to maintain "status quo" - this continuity gives the team the best chance to perform and hopefully "start fast" in 2020 - as opposed to new coaches, new systems, new atmosphere and new  culture.

 

Obviously if we get mediocrity the way we have the last two years, then it is safe to say we delayed the purge needed/required on doing the partial rebuild -  it's a gamble either way and I don't like the last two years any better than any of you - maybe this back half of 2019 is "fools gold" but I think this he higher percentage move.

Now, if we are 2-7 or 3-6 heading into the bye week next year, Blank will likely pull the trigger on firing Quinn early and be working on replacement for Dimitroff - I am sure both know this is their last shot to get it done in Atlanta.

The OP makes legit points.  Ultimately though, I think there wasn’t much of a choice to be made.  The salary cap for 2020 has been obliterated, and we’re starting to rack up debt in a major way on 2021.

Blank is hoping against hope that this past 7 game stretch isn’t a mirage.  TBD, but we’ll see how committed Blank is to this regime if they resign Hooper.

[esmithidoc]

3 minutes ago, Refried Beans said:

Give this dude a prize for this post. We need to say nothing more. Shows over .the Monkeys Dead,  warm up the bus, time to go home. 

LOL, you went home long ago.