[CONFIRMED] Quinn and TD staying for 2020

[JDaveG 43,777]

1 hour ago, stizz said:

You answered your own question. Morris/Ulbirch elected for Kazee at FS and Rico at SS while Quinn went with Ish and Rico. He lacks basic judgement even when they yield negative results.

Quinn was trying to run a team and be the OC and call plays on Sunday and manage the game.  It was too much.

[Draftnut57 4,322]

3 minutes ago, EpicBird said:

As a PSL and season ticket holder I’ve got really mixed feelings about this.
 

I’m doing a glass half full/half empty exercise to get my head around this. One thing is clear - AB is in win now mode. I’m just not sure he has any idea how to get there so he’s doubling down on what he knows, and he’s placing a lot of faith in 7 games that while included impressive wins over the Saints and Niners, also included a blow out loss against the Bucs at home, a loss at home against the Saints in which the Falcons were clearly the inferior team, and wins against the Kyle Allen led Panthers and the Minshew led Jags. A clear example of the recency effect if I ever saw one because the total body of work is very uneven. 5 years in the NFL is more than enough as a data set. 

The biggest risk is that the fan base is getting pretty alienated and if my feelings are an indication, cynical about AB and recycled messages pulled from the Same tired PR bag of nothing-speak. Yes, he’s in it for the money, and nothing wrong with that. But losing teams make less money than winning ones and to a guy that’s about 80, legacy  and reputation  usually matters as much or more than money. 
 

Half full: the continuity argument has merit. You make wholesale changes and you really don’t know how things will work out. You also have an adjustment period and a likely a lot of roster turnover. You convince yourself that DQ has learned a lot on the job and is ready to apply those lessons. Veterans on the team like him. Notwithstanding consecutive 4-9 starts you have a talented roster that can compete and win. The decade plus record of TD is top ten on the league. The drafting has overall been better than average. There are other positives
 

Half empty: these guys have really learned very little over the past 3 seasons. Same lack of discipline, same hubris and resulting lack of deep self analysis leading to the same roster weaknesses. Quinn has yet to demonstrate that he’s a top tier coach on the league. Churning assistants and hiring friends to cover for a lack of vision, accountability and leadership. Relying on Rich McKay, whose football pedigree and record are dubious. There’s a bunch of stuff I’ve probably left out. 
 

im not expecting perfection. I am expecting a vision and progress. I’m having trouble seeing either one. Convince me otherwise (or not). 

You sound like your trying to straddle the fence ,,  Get right or Get left ... 

[FalconsFanNW 342]

29 minutes ago, D.B.N. said:

Its ridiculous that fans still try to defend Kirby and Fromm and try to imply "Fields left because he didn't want to wait a year, or because he couldn't read a defense" PLEASE GTFO with that nonsense. Kirby sold him on the opportunity to compete... he was a UGA fan and his dream was to play for Georgia, only to be brought in and realize heavy favorites being played in Athens. He never was given a fair chance, and I stand by that. Can't blame him for leaving since he (and anyone with two eyes and a brain) knows hes the superior talent at QB. 

LOL... Fields looked lost vs good competition.

Sure he's looked good this year playing the OSU schedule..  but you forgot to mention the 9 fumbles to go with the 40 TDs.

As said though, my issue with the guy isn't his on field ability... it's the fact he played the race card... and I stand by that.

 

Edit:

 

In defense of Fromm... how many receivers did he lose from last year's squad and how many passes this season were dropped?

Haters gonna hate.

 

 

Edited December 27, 2019 by FalconsFanNW

[Spts1 6,908]

23 minutes ago, D.B.N. said:

Fields left because he was mismanaged and not given a FAIR SHOT! There were even reports out of practice that the O was functioning at a higher level with Fields in there, it even caused a semi-split in the locker room. Fromm is average, the numbers speak for themselves. Fields never got a fair chance... put him in mop-up duty and on designed QB runs. Couldn't even showcase the cannon of an arm he has. He was used compeletly wrong. UGA screwed Fields and I hope he wins it all to prove the point that we let a generational Talent at QB go for a mediocre Fromm. 

I've been saying this going back even BEFORE Fields.  Georgia wanted Fromm to be the starter, period.  Fromm DID NOT beat out Eason OR Fields.  Riding with Fromm cost Kirby any chance he had at winning a national title.  It even cost Georgia quarterback C.J. Stroud, a highly recruited quarterback out of California.  He chose Ohio State over Georgia.  Easy decision after he saw how Fields was handled:

 

 

Edited December 27, 2019 by Spts1

[Mr.11 8,370]

2 hours ago, ya_boi_j said:

So many people are gonna be in their feelings today

Well I was (well still am a little) in my feelings, but it didn't have anything to do with the Falcons.

[buc_man 200]

So part of me is sorry for yall

and part of me isn’t.

 

[FinalScore2.0 1,161]

Forget all the emotionalism. That's so unimportant

That 7 min video told more about the organization and team than any I've seen in maybe 10 years. Very, very informative. Just observe without judging good or bad.

McKay's influence, coaching decisions, staff decisions.... It's all there.

The one thing I'm surprised about is that the decision was made before the final game. I didn't think Blank would let the team relax before he announced Quinn is staying.

[I give lengthy responses 1,024]

Guess that's a third straight season of Falcons football that I won't be watching

[ya_boi_j 67,747]

5 minutes ago, No.11 said:

Well I was (well still am a little) in my feelings, but it didn't have anything to do with the Falcons.

Ok

[sdogg 9,792]

Barf!!

[ROMERO 3,889]

3 minutes ago, I give lengthy responses said:

Guess that's a third straight season of Falcons football that I won't be watching

k

[Macknsweetjones 1,704]

23 minutes ago, chronob said:

One thing is for certain, Blank’s decision wasn’t motivated at all by improving ticket sales. This will do nothing to improve attendance at the Benz on Sundays.

Only winning fill seats not a new head coach so this is irrelevant 

[JetJones11 583]

I hope it works out but I’ll be honest I’m not optimistic ...

[youngbloodz 16,404]

I would have gotten rid of TD to be honest. Quinn is ok in my eyes. But oh well

[JDaveG 43,777]

Just now, youngbloodz said:

I would have gotten rid of TD to be honest. Quinn is ok in my eyes. But oh well

Me too, but honestly, having McKay overseeing things at least gives me some reason to think Blank understands his lack of football knowledge and is trying to get people he trusts in a position to help make decisions.  That alone is cause for some optimism.

The problem is whether McKay is the right guy, but he wasn't awful as a GM early on, and he isn't in that primary role of selecting personnel now.  His role will be to oversee overall football operations, and I think he can do that.

[D.B.N. 5,367]

18 minutes ago, FalconsFanNW said:

LOL... Fields looked lost vs good competition.

Sure he's looked good this year playing the OSU schedule..  but you forgot to mention the 9 fumbles to go with the 40 TDs.

As said though, my issue with the guy isn't his on field ability... it's the fact he played the race card... and I stand by that.

 

Edit:

 

In defense of Fromm... how many receivers did he lose from last year's squad and how many passes this season were dropped?

Haters gonna hate.

 

 

George Pickens

Dominick Blaylock

Cager

D Rob

 

Our WRs were NOT the problem. Fromm missed wide open TD throws multiple times. 

[EpicBird 531]

22 minutes ago, Draftnut57 said:

You sound like your trying to straddle the fence ,,  Get right or Get left ... 

Yup!! Bottom line - I’m a fan so my heart wants to trust their judgment. My head says I’m gonna be disappointed. 

[The Don™ 4,863]

What's done is done now even though I disagree with some of the decisions Quinn has made and the abysmal product on the field the first 8 games of the season. 

I'm now more intrigued how they're going to handle the cap, the inevitable release of certain players and the draft. What about OC? Dirk isn't the answer.  This is going to be an interesting offseason to say the least because if the team comes out flat again next year, I think Quinn's gone before seasons end.

I'm an optimist but I also recognize Quinn's shortcomings in his four year tenure so far. All I can do is hope he's finally got it figured out going forward. We won't know until we see it week in and week out because inconsistency and lack of discipline has always been my two biggest gripes with Quinn's Falcons.

Edited December 27, 2019 by The Don™

[FinalScore2.0 1,161]

It'll be years before the public is given the info of what happened behind the scene... What led to firing 3 coordinators and Quinn taking on DC duties?,

Who decided Quinn should be DC?,

Why did Quinn introduce a new defensive scheme?,

Why draft Senat and keep him on the roster if he was going to be inactive all year?

What was Koetter's understanding coming in of what Quinn was looking for?

Who brought in Carpenter and Brown?

[PokerSteve 28,041]

2 hours ago, GhostofGritz said:

Time will tell, but I believe this keeps the franchise in neutral...and will waste another year of Ryan and Julio's career.

Agree. Blank wasn't up to the unpleasantness of firing two people he's grown to consider family. Now he'll reap the consequences. Can't wait to see it all unfold and implode. Not the entertainment I hoped for, but entertaining all the same in the finest 'falcons gonna falcon' sort of way.

[FinalScore2.0 1,161]

7 minutes ago, JDaveG said:

The problem is whether McKay is the right guy, but he wasn't awful as a GM early on, and he isn't in that primary role of selecting personnel now.  His role will be to oversee overall football operations, and I think he can do that.

I'm not completely sold on McKay as being the brains behind the scene. He has a vibe about him that makes me question his motives.

Time will tell.

[marvinthemartian 5,453]

22 minutes ago, I give lengthy responses said:

Guess that's a third straight season of Falcons football that I won't be watching

But still coming here to comment on something you aren’t watching?

[JDaveG 43,777]

2 minutes ago, FinalScore2.0 said:

I'm not completely sold on McKay as being the brains behind the scene. He has a vibe about him that makes me question his motives.

Time will tell.

I'm not either.  I'm more sold on Blank not being the brains behind the scene.

Arthur Blank is a phenomenal businessman. He doesn't know jack about football.

[PokerSteve 28,041]

1 minute ago, JDaveG said:

I'm not either.  I'm more sold on Blank not being the brains behind the scene.

Arthur Blank is a phenomenal businessman. He doesn't know jack about football.

 

[tl;dr 9,808]

I am cautiously optimistic about this. Could be the right move, but could also be the wrong one.

Still though, the players love DQ and that has to mean something.