Point blank, Quinn and Dummytroff should be fired for these three reasons...

[D.B.N.]

3 Reasons Quinn and TD need to be fired:

1. The top two seeds in the NFC, SF and GB, both have HC's who were on our 2016 staff - KS and LaFluer. The fact that Quinn and Co. let these guys walk to bring in... drum-roll... Steve Trashkesion,.. is plenty enough reason to fire them. BUT WAIT! THERE's MORE!
2. TD's been here over a decade and has consistently failed us when coming to drafting OL and DL. The only outlier is Grady Jarrett. Jury is out on this draft class, so they are excluded... so excluding this years' draft class, what class can we hang our hat on, on truly building the trenches? I'll wait... 
3. SuperBowl LI and the blown lead. 28-3 will never escape us... they should have been fired after that massive debacle. Now, we are stuck in mediocrity and our trend is well, less than optimistic. What have we done to get better? Quinn failed us in the SuperBowl, then got a pass due to all the injuries, and now look at us. Started out 1-7, only to "bounce back" once we've been mathematically eliminated! Where was this energy during that 1-7 stretch to start the year out? Unacceptable! 

Now watch, there will be an influx of kool-aid sippin, rose-colored glasses wearin, homers who come in here and try to defend these fools who make up our FO. Until there is real change, we will be destined for mediocrity. Better realize that sooner than later. We need to clean house, don't let these pointless wins fool you. Wake up. Trust me. 

[Duff_Man]

I think everyone should keep their jobs.

[D.B.N.]

Just now, Duff_Man said:

I think everyone should keep their jobs.

Of course you do 

[JD dirtybird21]

I agree that Quinn deserves to be let go as it's time for a change. But your reasoning above doesn't make sense. First off, Quinn didn't "let" Shanahan walk...he left accepting a HC position. That happens. 

Also, the whole "trenches" argument on TD is getting really old and stale at this point. The reality is, he has a winning record as the GM of the team and has been to 2 conference championships, and 1 super bowl. Also, it's WAY too early to pull the plug on the offensive line he's attempted to build. McGary and Lindstrom could actually be great picks. And if they are, then the offensive line has 3 great players that TD drafted himself and a center that he got in FA. The "trenches" isn't the key to winning in the NFL. There are LOTS of ways to win. 

And the SB is 3 years old, get over it man. I guarantee the players and coaches moved on. You should too...its a game. 

[D.B.N.]

Just now, JD dirtybird21 said:

I agree that Quinn deserves to be let go as it's time for a change. But your reasoning above doesn't make sense. First off, Quinn didn't "let" Shanahan walk...he left accepting a HC position. That happens. 

Also, the whole "trenches" argument on TD is getting really old and stale at this point. The reality is, he has a winning record as the GM of the team and has been to 2 conference championships, and 1 super bowl. Also, it's WAY too early to pull the plug on the offensive line he's attempted to build. McGary and Lindstrom could actually be great picks. And if they are, then the offensive line has 3 great players that TD drafted himself and a center that he got in FA. The "trenches" isn't the key to winning in the NFL. There are LOTS of ways to win. 

And the SB is 3 years old, get over it man. I guarantee the players and coaches moved on. You should too...its a game. 

I will never get over that blown lead, it will forever haunt us. We are the biggest joke in the NFL for blowing that lead. Countless memes, countless jokes, all about us.

I said this years' draft class and Grady Jarrett aside, what class can we say he built our trenches? Football starts in the trenches. We've been a "finesse" team for as long as I can remember. 

[JD dirtybird21]

Just now, D.B.N. said:

I will never get over that blown lead, it will forever haunt us. We are the biggest joke in the NFL for blowing that lead. Countless memes, countless jokes, all about us.

I said this years' draft class and Grady Jarrett aside, what class can we say he built our trenches? Football starts in the trenches. We've been a "finesse" team for as long as I can remember. 

Football doesn't start in the trenches. That's a complete myth. You need great coaching and great players. That's how you win. 

As for you not getting over the SB, that's your problem. You want to let trash talking idiots on social media make you cry? That's a you problem. 

[D.B.N.]

Just now, JD dirtybird21 said:

Football doesn't start in the trenches. That's a complete myth. You need great coaching and great players. That's how you win. 

As for you not getting over the SB, that's your problem. You want to let trash talking idiots on social media make you cry? That's a you problem. 

Alright, downplay the biggest flop in SB history as if it's nothing LMAO you are truly delusional if you think it doesn't matter 

[JD dirtybird21]

Just now, D.B.N. said:

Alright, downplay the biggest flop in SB history as if it's nothing LMAO you are truly delusional if you think it doesn't matter 

It doesn't matter anymore. Fans like you are the ones who treat it like its bigger than life. It's a game. 

[D.B.N.]

Just now, JD dirtybird21 said:

It doesn't matter anymore. Fans like you are the ones who treat it like its bigger than life. It's a game. 

Again, biggest flop in SuperBowl history to a die-hard fan is a big deal. It's a huge friggen deal. We were that close man, and then we blow it away. You act like nothing happened... good for you. Me? I will continue to hold on to that loss when looking at this team until we actually make real change and take winning seriously. The status quo = not taking winning seriously. You wanna be a blind sheep and support this mediocre FO? Good for you? Me, I will continue to voice my disgust for Quinn and TD until they are fired or until they win a championship. The former is much more likely to happen. 

[kiwifalcon]

11 minutes ago, JD dirtybird21 said:

I agree that Quinn deserves to be let go as it's time for a change. But your reasoning above doesn't make sense. First off, Quinn didn't "let" Shanahan walk...he left accepting a HC position. That happens. 

Also, the whole "trenches" argument on TD is getting really old and stale at this point. The reality is, he has a winning record as the GM of the team and has been to 2 conference championships, and 1 super bowl. Also, it's WAY too early to pull the plug on the offensive line he's attempted to build. McGary and Lindstrom could actually be great picks. And if they are, then the offensive line has 3 great players that TD drafted himself and a center that he got in FA. The "trenches" isn't the key to winning in the NFL. There are LOTS of ways to win. 

And the SB is 3 years old, get over it man. I guarantee the players and coaches moved on. You should too...its a game. 

What your writing makes too much sense.The project meathead brigade think that’s the biggest reason for the Falcons not winning.

When in all essence it’s situational coaching and player errors that have cost us not the perceived lack of talent that this team supposedly has.

[JD dirtybird21]

2 minutes ago, D.B.N. said:

Again, biggest flop in SuperBowl history to a die-hard fan is a big deal. It's a huge friggen deal. We were that close man, and then we blow it away. You act like nothing happened... good for you. Me? I will continue to hold on to that loss when looking at this team until we actually make real change and take winning seriously. The status quo = not taking winning seriously. You wanna be a blind sheep and support this mediocre FO? Good for you? Me, I will continue to voice my disgust for Quinn and TD until they are fired or until they win a championship. The former is much more likely to happen. 

The loss DID matter to me. It was the worst loss in franchise history. I was extremely angry about it. But...I've moved on. Because it's football. The reality is, the Falcons could have won that game, and our lives as fans wouldn't be any different regardless of the outcome. Football is entertainment. If you are holding onto that much hurt and anger from a game, then I feel very sorry for you. 

[Geaux_Falcons]

Should've stopped reading after point #1, but what the ****, might as well reread another retread thread. 

1.) KS chose to leave on his own for HEAD COACHING job. Lafluer would have eventually done the same as he obviously has done. Sure DQ didn't retain Lafluer when given the chance, but Lafluer was still an unknown if he would even be a legit OC. And we're talking about having him for only a year, since somebody would have plunked him away(Green Bay). This argument is nonsense imo.

2.) Dallas, Cleveland, Detroit, Jacksonville, etc.. These teams have built through the trenches at some point and nothing to show. Your GM has to build more than just the trenches.

3.) Just get over it. If this is apart of your basis for an argument against Quinn, then then it's more personal than it is football related. 

[Spts1]

 

 

Edited December 26, 2019 by Spts1

[JD dirtybird21]

1 minute ago, Geaux_Falcons said:

Should've stopped reading after point #1, but what the ****, might as well reread another retread thread. 

1.) KS chose to leave on his own for HEAD COACHING job. Lafluer would have eventually done the same as he obviously has done. Sure DQ didn't retain Lafluer when given the chance, but Lafluer was still an unknown if he would even be a legit OC. And we're talking about having him for only a year, since somebody would have plunked him away(Green Bay). This argument is nonsense imo.

2.) Dallas, Cleveland, Detroit, Jacksonville, etc.. These teams have built through the trenches at some point and nothing to show. Your GM has to build more than just the trenches.

3.) Just get over it. If this is apart of your basis for an argument against Quinn, then then it's more personal than it is football related. 

Man you deserve to be bought a beer after this post. 

[Geaux_Falcons]

2 minutes ago, JD dirtybird21 said:

Man you deserve to be bought a beer after this post. 

I will happily add it to my current collection of beer remaining from Christmas in prep for NYE. Lol

[D.B.N.]

2 minutes ago, JD dirtybird21 said:

The loss DID matter to me. It was the worst loss in franchise history. I was extremely angry about it. But...I've moved on. Because it's football. The reality is, the Falcons could have won that game, and our lives as fans wouldn't be any different regardless of the outcome. Football is entertainment. If you are holding onto that much hurt and anger from a game, then I feel very sorry for you. 

Our lives would have been very different as fans. At least if we were sucking now, we would have had a ring. Nothing else matters except championships. That is what success is measured off of, nothing  more nothing less. My life as a fan would be vastly different, because I would hve been able to experience winning a championship. Guess championships don't matter to you. 

[JD dirtybird21]

1 minute ago, D.B.N. said:

Our lives would have been very different as fans. At least if we were sucking now, we would have had a ring. Nothing else matters except championships. That is what success is measured off of, nothing  more nothing less. My life as a fan would be vastly different, because I would hve been able to experience winning a championship. Guess championships don't matter to you. 

Lol you are hopeless. 

[D.B.N.]

Just now, Spts1 said:

 

 

Convenient he's wearing a Ryan jersey. Poor fella 

[D.B.N.]

Just now, JD dirtybird21 said:

Lol you are hopeless. 

Yep, I have zero hope for this franchise until real change is made. 

[kiwifalcon]

6 minutes ago, Geaux_Falcons said:

Should've stopped reading after point #1, but what the ****, might as well reread another retread thread. 

1.) KS chose to leave on his own for HEAD COACHING job. Lafluer would have eventually done the same as he obviously has done. Sure DQ didn't retain Lafluer when given the chance, but Lafluer was still an unknown if he would even be a legit OC. And we're talking about having him for only a year, since somebody would have plunked him away(Green Bay). This argument is nonsense imo.

2.) Dallas, Cleveland, Detroit, Jacksonville, etc.. These teams have built through the trenches at some point and nothing to show. Your GM has to build more than just the trenches.

3.) Just get over it. If this is apart of your basis for an argument against Quinn, then then it's more personal than it is football related. 

I don’t understand the whole meathead size I’m bigger than everyone else so I should win thinking.

This is chess not Chequers.

[D.B.N.]

6 minutes ago, Geaux_Falcons said:

Should've stopped reading after point #1, but what the ****, might as well reread another retread thread. 

1.) KS chose to leave on his own for HEAD COACHING job. Lafluer would have eventually done the same as he obviously has done. Sure DQ didn't retain Lafluer when given the chance, but Lafluer was still an unknown if he would even be a legit OC. And we're talking about having him for only a year, since somebody would have plunked him away(Green Bay). This argument is nonsense imo.

2.) Dallas, Cleveland, Detroit, Jacksonville, etc.. These teams have built through the trenches at some point and nothing to show. Your GM has to build more than just the trenches.

3.) Just get over it. If this is apart of your basis for an argument against Quinn, then then it's more personal than it is football related. 

So you are saying trenches (Pass pro/Run blocking/Pass rush/Run stopping) is not the most important thing to build. You are asinine to believe that any other position outside of QB matters more. 

Edited December 26, 2019 by D.B.N.

[VTCrunkler]

2 minutes ago, D.B.N. said:

Yep, I have zero hope for this franchise until real change is made. 

Your feelings are valid. I’m sure many feel the way you do.  Everyone on this board feels bad about 28-3. But at some point you have to fill the void with other stuff than football.  And yes it’s good you came here for some therapy. And that’s what this place is: a relatively safe place. And what folks are trying to say is we have to put the pat behind us and forward focus on things that will get us back to striking distance of a SB we all obviously crave. 

[D.B.N.]

Just now, VTCrunkler said:

Your feelings are valid. I’m sure many feel the way you do.  Everyone on this board feels bad about 28-3. But at some point you have to fill the void with other stuff than football.  And yes it’s good you came here for some therapy. And that’s what this place is: a relatively safe place. And what folks are trying to say is we have to put the pat behind us and forward focus on things that will get us back to striking distance of a SB we all obviously crave. 

Ive been a member of these boards for going on 8 years now, browsed them for more than a decade. Ive been an avid supporter of everything Falcons - Ryan, TD, you name it I was an avid supporter. But up until recently, there just has been a shift in my mindset, I'm tired of the same old shtick from this organization. Seems they don't care about winning. The formula we have used for the past decade is not working. Until we change this, there has been nothing to make me feel like this team has a shot at winning a SB. 

[kiwifalcon]

1 minute ago, D.B.N. said:

So you are saying trenches (Pass pro/Run blocking/Pass rush/Run stopping) is not the most important thing to build. You are asinine to believe that any other position outside of QB matters more. 

He’s not saying that at all.

What he and everyone else with more than half a brain cell is saying you have to be multiple about how you win in this league.

What goes on off the field sets the table for what goes on the field.

[CTann]

Goodness. There’s not a single person here who wasn’t bothered by 51. The difference is that we know how to let things go eventually over time. It’s been almost 3 years. The outcome of that game wasn’t going to make a difference for someone’s financial status, education level, friends/family situation, whether you have clean water or not, shelter above your head or not, food on the table or not, etc.

The difference for me was that during that game my Mom was laying in bed with sepsis blood disease (25% mortality rate), pneumonia, a fever over 101 degrees, and the flu before we knew she had any of that. The next day she had to be sent to the ER and the ICU. She should’ve died, but is miraculously healthy. 

Best believe football was the very last thing on my mind regardless of the actual outcome or if we would’ve won. Not to mention my girlfriend at the time had been communicating with a former hookup of hers and I caught her in the act of doing so in the 3rd quarter of the game. In the end, I definitely care about football more than my ex-girlfriend, but football is a complete after-thought, form of entertainment, and supposed to be an escape from our daily lives. Football didn’t and still doesn’t mean a single bit to me when stacked up to what really matters.