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4 hours ago, blkbigdog35 said:

People just don’t seem to understand that these guys have pride and still want to win.

Of course they want to win. I'd be pretty upset if they didn't. It's hard to lay any blame for this season on the players anyway. We simply do not have enough HC's on our coaching staff to make us into a well-coached team.

Oh wait...

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You want them to lose? Their jobs are on the line. They aren't going to lay down. Sorry the draft order isn't going to go the way you want, but losing creates losing culture. Starting 1-7 and finishing 2-14 is what quitters and teams from Ohio do. I'm extremely proud that they finished strong and showed some **** back bone. I wanted to be in position to take the best players too but I'll never be upset that my team performed well even if it didn't matter anymore because it matters to me. 

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I actually disagree completely. I am a full fledged tanker, but the wins the Falcons have had to end this season are completely different than last year. The Falcons have beat significantly better teams than last year, and proven they are still a talented squad. I think the team had a lot of confidence right now and last year they didn't. I think a lot of younger guys (Ollison, Lindstrom, McGary, Hill, Shef, Oliver, Gage) are getting significant snaps and excelling at this point. Last year vets were still carrying the load. 

If Quinn is replaced or not, this Falcons team has proven they are a top team talent wise.

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5 hours ago, FalconsIn2012 said:

Why would a player put bad tape out there?  To Tank for a team he likely won’t be with for another 2 years?  All tanking would do is cost players money in FA.  The notion is simply ridiculous.

Quinn: “Rico, I need you to leave the seams exposed and let Thomas get behind you”

Quinn: “Vic, I know you want Bell to get your face tatt’ed on his butt, but I need you to ease up and not get that sack if it’s available”

Quinn: “And Grady....errr....just keep doing what you do.  You’re a crazy mother-trucker and you actually kinda scare me so I won’t mention the T word to you”

...”but WHY did we win?!” :sadfan:

^this team showed better coaching and players doing their job = beating the best or competing with the best the NFC has had to offer this year. We didn’t get it done early but when we think about how much we changed after 2018? We should have expected a slowish start at minimum. Then, our revamped OL on top of it AND both rookies setback from injury; Meanwhile the OG FA moves sucked on Sundays?

Yeah. We were gonna take our lumps. Unfortunately, I don’t know if I trust Koetter in a potential Koetter return. Maybe if we see a LOT more of the past few games on offense and in particular PA, presnap motions, multiple TE and RB formations, actually running(!)...etc.

Yeah I might be down if Dirk grows; or whomever else TATF winds up crediting. Putting my hat on the bash brothers! :tiphat::ninja:

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5 hours ago, blkbigdog35 said:

People just don’t seem to understand that these guys have pride and still want to win.

I understand the point, I truly do. But, wtf happened to these same prideful dudes games one through 8? Did the quiboot not go far enough up their bum for them to get the point? Or, is Raheem’s foot bigger with pointy toe boots?

Still wondering if they get the turn around credit for the second half fix, should they not get equal credit for the first half deadman’s flop..,

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1 hour ago, PokerSteve said:

Of course they want to win. I'd be pretty upset if they didn't. It's hard to lay any blame for this season on the players anyway. We simply do not have enough HC's on our coaching staff to make us into a well-coached team.

Oh wait...


"We simply don't have enough HCs on our coaching staff to make us into a well-coached team" ----

LOL!!!  Maybe, too many cooks in the kitchen? 
Or, too many chiefs, and not enough Indians?!?!?!




 

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8 hours ago, roguebeaver said:

I understand the point, I truly do. But, wtf happened to these same prideful dudes games one through 8? Did the quiboot not go far enough up their bum for them to get the point? Or, is Raheem’s foot bigger with pointy toe boots?

Still wondering if they get the turn around credit for the second half fix, should they not get equal credit for the first half deadman’s flop..,

Agreed and that is the million dollar question!

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15 hours ago, Sipifalcon said:

I understand your logic. I agree with you since the season is lost and playing for pride yet again.  Honestly I'm lost as a fan regarding this team and what the future will look like. I can say that I have no faith in this team.  Only time will tell. What's going to be funny is if we were to trade up in the draft... and it does suck to have to much love for this team to leave.  We all as fans deserve better though.  

yeah tell me about it lol

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10 hours ago, Dem Birds said:

You want them to lose? Their jobs are on the line. They aren't going to lay down. Sorry the draft order isn't going to go the way you want, but losing creates losing culture. Starting 1-7 and finishing 2-14 is what quitters and teams from Ohio do. I'm extremely proud that they finished strong and showed some **** back bone. I wanted to be in position to take the best players too but I'll never be upset that my team performed well even if it didn't matter anymore because it matters to me. 

There are “fans” whose sole concern is having a good time with high, glamour picks on draft day. They’re the same ones who are grading players for the next draft in May when the current draft is barely a week old. 

If the team improves, yet not enough to win the SB, then that means utter, soul crushing failure.

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3 hours ago, 81KJW said:

we have 2 losing seasons and it looks like we are going to keep Dan Quinn around. so it's really hard to gates  it excited or next year if that happens

I get it.  I do.  But this football team is turning grown men into whiney girls.  If it's impacting you this much  (not you per say) then step away and find something else to do with your time.  It's not worth it.  No pro sports team is worth this much of your emotional investment.  People are legit going bonkers here over things they have no control over.

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4 hours ago, athell said:

I get it.  I do.  But this football team is turning grown men into whiney girls.  If it's impacting you this much  (not you per say) then step away and find something else to do with your time.  It's not worth it.  No pro sports team is worth this much of your emotional investment.  People are legit going bonkers here over things they have no control over.

This. I quit golf.bc I was giving it too much energy.

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6 hours ago, athell said:

I get it.  I do.  But this football team is turning grown men into whiney girls.  If it's impacting you this much  (not you per say) then step away and find something else to do with your time.  It's not worth it.  No pro sports team is worth this much of your emotional investment.  People are legit going bonkers here over things they have no control over.

I had a sinking feeling all year  this was gonna happen so I'm OK but if we keep everybody I'm out for   the 2020 season to go yellowjackets lol

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If Quinn is still around, and continues to play preseason games like they do not matter we will spend the first games of the season figuring out how to win until playing catch up will no longer have any effect on our playoff hopes.  This is not the way to get to the superbowl.  The team has some romantic notion Quinn is the answer.

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