Geaux_Falcons Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 (edited) 12 minutes ago, andrews31cain21 said: I dont know GF....its all so frustrating...i want to believe that maybe DQ has got things figured out, but I thought that last year as well.... I'm not getting any younger...lol... Merry Christmas Bro! Frustration is normal. Who wouldn't be frustrated with the team we have. One minute we can be a juggernaut, and the next, we're like a rag doll getting tossed around. Me personally, I see TDs faults, but i also see the good and recognize that there's a lot of bad GMs doing a worse job around the league every year. This current team has plenty of talent. It just needs to get consistent. I'm willing to give TD & DQ the chance the right the ship completely as they're capable. Look at it like this. Quinn was a rookie HC, and has been learning to become a great coach with every mistake he makes. BB did the same in Cleveland and they let him go. NE couldn't have been any happier that they did that. I'm not saying Quinn will be BB, but it would be ashame to let him go, and he has great success elsewhere after we basically groomed him here. Merry Christmas to you as well brother! Edited December 23, 2019 by Geaux_Falcons FalconBlood23, andrews31cain21 and FalconsIn2012 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atl Falcon Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 27 minutes ago, Geaux_Falcons said: He's had just as many as any of those great teams you mentioned. Schneider & Carroll started off in Seattle 7-9 in back to back seasons. If that happened here, they would've never made it past the 2nd 7-9 season. Ok man I know you’re a TD lover but really.....do another shot and get back with me big dog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atl Falcon Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 27 minutes ago, kiwifalcon said: I’m hear nor there on either. All I know is AB has some tough decisions to make. If we are to change I’ll be keeping a level head on either front. NFLs a tough business. Yup - I’m going to roll with it either way. I’m leaving it up to Blank. The dude ain’t a billionaire for being stupid. But he does meddle a little much kiwifalcon and GATXBOI 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrimeyKidd Posted December 24, 2019 Author Share Posted December 24, 2019 (edited) On 12/22/2019 at 2:32 PM, Califalcon0013 said: We resigned our best players for years.and had low cap to work with yet you crying over 2 free agents that were released because they suck got signed here because our guards suck and youre mad because they suck? Dude he drafted a rg and rt.injuries happen i dont think he truly believed he was finished fixing the line long term.with Brown and carpenter. Because he grabbed Lindstrom and Mcgary does not negate the facts of the article. Edited December 24, 2019 by GrimeyKidd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrimeyKidd Posted December 24, 2019 Author Share Posted December 24, 2019 On 12/22/2019 at 9:21 PM, andrews31cain21 said: TD got DQ the players he wanted.... problem is DQ hasnt done anything with them Honestly not sure about this. Some of the players TD has brought here don't fit anything Quinn has preached. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Califalcon0013 Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 1 hour ago, GrimeyKidd said: Because he grabbed Lindstrom and Mcgary does not negate the facts of the article. So what you want TD to do since promising drafting players isnt a positive.sign big name free agent and let our good players go? You cant do both resign you own best players and turn and sign the best players on the market. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Califalcon0013 Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 56 minutes ago, GrimeyKidd said: Honestly not sure about this. Some of the players TD has brought here don't fit anything Quinn has preached. What? Which players are these? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boise Falcon Fan Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 On 12/22/2019 at 10:31 AM, GrimeyKidd said: Link to full article - https://gshmgroup.wordpress.com/2019/12/22/thomas-dimitroff-needs-to-be-fired/ I've said this many times, but TD isn't going anywhere. DQ is probably 50/50, but TD is here to stay. The roster is not the issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boise Falcon Fan Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 On 12/22/2019 at 11:14 AM, JD dirtybird21 said: Our fan base has become extremely self entitled and has completely taken Ryan and Dimitroff for granted 100% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boise Falcon Fan Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 On 12/22/2019 at 2:54 PM, 81KJW said: sorry he's gonna get fired TD is not that great I'll bet he's not getting fired... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boise Falcon Fan Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 On 12/22/2019 at 3:44 PM, Atl Falcon said: I’d take BB over TD all day and even give Ed Dodds a shot over TD. But like I said that’s ABs job to find that special GM. TDs like Jason Garett and if you like mediocrity keep him This is laughable. Maybe one of the worst analogies I've ever seen on these boards, and that is truly saying something! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boise Falcon Fan Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 On 12/22/2019 at 4:53 PM, Geaux_Falcons said: Wanting the best and having unimaginable expectations are not the same. Very well said... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFanSince1970 Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 On 12/22/2019 at 0:40 PM, JD dirtybird21 said: Since Thomas Dimitroff was hired in 2008, the falcons are tied for 8th best winning percentage (both regular season and playoffs combined) out of all 32 teams. Only New England, Pittsburgh, New Orleans, Indianapolis, Baltimore, Green Bay, and Seattle are better. The point? The Falcons have been a top 10 franchise in the TD era. Guy gets too much hate PHI, DAL, DEN, MIN and KC are right there in the ball park and have been playing better more recently. Not impressive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD dirtybird21 Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 Just now, FalconFanSince1970 said: PHI, DAL, DEN, MIN and KC are right there in the ball park and have been playing better more recently. Not impressive. I don’t disagree necessarily. Just pointing out that he’s won a lot of games during his tenure as GM. There’s a reason he’s been around for 12 seasons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold4425 Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 Like most of the FO Sfaff IMHO we should keep them. New doesn't always mean better I just think it will take a while to clear all the negatives up. It is Pro's and Cons to all of the possible GM and Coaching prospects mentioned on this Board. So if I was AB (who also may be part of the problem) I would go the safest course ALL things considered. I would give DQ and TD another year BUT I would demand certain changes like taking away some of some people's power and changing some of the MO. If and that is a BIG IF TD and DQ have learned from their negatives and are willing to try another way then keeping them is probably our best option for NEXT YEAR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconsd56 Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 36 minutes ago, JD dirtybird21 said: I don’t disagree necessarily. Just pointing out that he’s won a lot of games during his tenure as GM. There’s a reason he’s been around for 12 seasons Not to mention LOL at using Dallas and Denver saying that they have been better recently Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATL58 Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 On 12/22/2019 at 1:05 PM, Atl Falcon said: 12 yrs of mediocre OL DL pass rushers have come and gone from other teams and TD has yet to produce pass rushers plus he has failed to build an OL to protect MR2 just admit we’ve been tripled TROFFED in 12 yrs...the dude can’t do it 12 years of under coached and wrongly schemed OL and DL. He has gotten the right pieces to build a good OL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFanSince1970 Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 DIMI: 52-59 over the last seven seasons with only two playoff berths Is currently sitting at 6-9 and will miss the playoffs for the second straight season Built lopsided rosters too heavily tilted toward offense Buddy could never build a good Oline Has never constructed a solid front seven Traded 27 picks to move up for 11 players. Six of whom sucked Passed on Clay Matthews, Lavonte David, Duane Brown, Gurley, DHop, T.J. Watt and Bay Bay to take Jelly, King Konz, Sackmaker, Teasley, Tru, Takk and Featherspoon Let Grimes, Mud Duck, Poe, Dahl, DiMarco, Teco, Poole, Chester, Boley, Lofton, Peters & Weems walk too soon and replaced them with scrubs Cut Abe, Clabo and The Burner and downgraded to Osi, Puddin and SJax Gave bad contracts to Sackmaker, RobbinUs, Teasley, Free, Tru, SJax, Ray Ray, Carpenter and Jaymon Been at the bottom of the league in available cap space for six years in a row Has a negative 2020 cap table with only 42 players under contract TROFFED Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATL58 Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 On 12/22/2019 at 6:57 PM, Atl Falcon said: I don’t think wanting to win a SB a couple of times in 10 -12 yrs is unrealistic. TDs had his chance and blew it. Explain paying 50 million $$$ for two starting guards in FA that don’t even start. Just tired of this crap bro. That’s a lot of money to piss away wth If there was pure parity in this league then the only realistic expectation is to win one SB every 32 years. Everyone can’t win a championship every year. Even with the parity argument the Falcons are behind the curve having never won one in 54 years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATL58 Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 In 53 Super Bowl years, these teams have never been to a Super Bowl: Cleveland, Houston, Jacksonville, Detroit, and add to that those that have never won one: Buffalo, Cincinnati, Tennessee, Chargers, Minnesota, Atlanta, Carolina, Arizona so in 53 Super Bowls played, out of 32’teams only 20 teams have won one and 28 have been. Of the 4 that haven’t gone, two of them are newer franchises so that leaves Cleveland and Detroit as the suckiest franchise of all time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFanSince1970 Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 1 hour ago, JD dirtybird21 said: I don’t disagree necessarily. Just pointing out that he’s won a lot of games during his tenure as GM. There’s a reason he’s been around for 12 seasons But most of those wins came in his first five seasons. In a what have you done for me lately league he is: 6-9 in 2019 13-18 in his last two seasons 52-59 in his last seven seasons with only two playoff berths Atl Falcon 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFanSince1970 Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 1 hour ago, falconsd56 said: Not to mention LOL at using Dallas and Denver saying that they have been better recently LOL at you: DAL - 7-8 in 2019, 17-14 in the last 2 seasons and 63-48 in the last 7 seasons with 3 playoff berths DEN - 6-9 in 2019, 12-19 in the last 2 seasons and 63-48 in the last 7 seasons with 3 playoff berths ATL - 6-9 in 2019, 13-18 in the last 2 seasons and 52-59 in the last 7 seasons with 2 playoff berths Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconsIn2012 Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 Winning a Super Bowl, unless you’re the Patriots, requires some semblance of lightning in a bottle. In 11 years, TD has given us 4 legitimate SB opportunities. That’s more than all but 3-4 teams over that period falconsd56 and vel 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconsd56 Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, FalconsIn2012 said: Winning a Super Bowl, unless you’re the Patriots, requires some presence of lightning in a bottle. In 11 years, TD has given us 4 legitimate SB opportunities. You can also include 2010 making it 5. That’s more than all but 2-3 teams over that period Just sacrafice your first born children like the pats have......works every time. FalconsIn2012 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconsd56 Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 The biggest difference is 2013. That year we played games without Both starting receivers Both starting tackles Running back and Fullback 2nd string RB We never were fully healthy.....especially on offense and we had games where our starting receivers were Drew Davis and Harry Douglas Even when guys like Jackson and Roddy played they were battling a quad/hamstring injury and a high ankle sprain. 2013 was a brutal brutal year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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