FalconsIn2012 Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 There has been some good discussion on whether or not Quinn stays in 2020. Another topic of discussion is Morris & Ulbrich. Morris has a great resume on both sides of the ball and should have momentum for an HC position in the offseason. Same for Ulbrich as DC. So here is the question: which of those two should we prioritize keeping if Quinn stays? A month ago it was Ulbrich in a landslide; however, Morris appears to have closed the gap. What he did last week, disguising our coverages and mixing Cover 3, Tampa 2, Cover 6 etc was genius. So who ya keeping? Or should be State Line Quinn & his band of lovable cohorts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcon fan 4 ever Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 The impact Morris has had on our D backs is huge. We have been lost at that position far to long. He needs to stay i believe he is the biggest difference in our defense CaliFalcons, mtldirtybird, atljbo and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geneaut Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 I'm keeping both if AB has to open the wallet that's on him. I seriously doubt Ulbrich is getting a lot of sniffs though unless it's for a DC position somewhere else. HouseofEuphoria, FalconsIn2012, CaliFalcons and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconsIn2012 Posted December 19, 2019 Author Share Posted December 19, 2019 3 minutes ago, Geneaut said: I'm keeping both if AB has to open the wallet that's on him. I seriously doubt Ulbrich is getting a lot of sniffs though unless it's for a DC position somewhere else. In this scenerio, Quinn stays, Morris is promoted to DC leaving Ulbrich moving back to just LB’s. He has earned a job as DC somewhere PokerSteve and federicofalcon2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
octoslash Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 Fire everybody from the GM down including the Flowery Branch window washers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconsIn2012 Posted December 19, 2019 Author Share Posted December 19, 2019 1 minute ago, octoslash said: Fire everybody from the GM down including the Flowery Branch window washers. State Line for the beer girls, too.... octoslash and Shelley#37 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lethal Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 All (Quinn+Ulbrich+Morris) or nothing from me. But want to see how they finish out. Bucs still roasted us with this setup, even though Jameis makes us his son on a yearly basis. Francis York Morgan, PokerSteve and FalconsIn2012 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconsIn2012 Posted December 19, 2019 Author Share Posted December 19, 2019 1 minute ago, athell said: All (Quinn+Ulbrich+Morris) or nothing from me. But want to see how they finish out. Bucs still roasted us with this setup, even though Jameis makes us his son on a yearly basis. How Tampa rubbed our nose in the dirt was no fluke . I don’t like our chances Week 17 tbh. PokerSteve and Lethal 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lethal Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 13 minutes ago, FalconsIn2012 said: How Tampa rubbed our nose in the dirt was no fluke . I don’t like our chances Week 17 tbh. We are poised for a trap game too. Emotional high win on the road vs the former OC from the SB run. Follow up with a home game (which we discussed how poor our home record is) vs an AFC opponent. Wouldn't be surprised if we close out the season 0-2. Though I thought we'd smoke TB and get murdered by SF so what do I know at this point? FalconsIn2012 and papachaz 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconsIn2012 Posted December 19, 2019 Author Share Posted December 19, 2019 Just now, athell said: We are poised for a trap game too. Emotional high win on the road vs the former OC from the SB run. Follow up with a home game (which we discussed how poor our home record is) vs an AFC opponent. Wouldn't be surprised if we close out the season 0-2. Though I thought we'd smoke TB and get murdered by SF so what do I know at this point? I think we remain focused a beat Jax soundly. But we could play well and lose to Tampa Lethal 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lethal Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 Just now, FalconsIn2012 said: I think we remain focused a beat Jax soundly. But we could play well and lose to Tampa /shrug I've given up trying to predict anything with this franchise lol FalconsIn2012, PokerSteve, ATL Fan in the DMV and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atljbo Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 We went from having the dead last 3rd down Ds in the first 8 games to having a top 5 3rd down D these 6 games...... That's a epic improvement CaliFalcons, papachaz, Artys Arryn and 5 others 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramonezy Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 (edited) If our play is as unbearable as some say why would we keep anyone? Get rid of everyone mascot, pets, equipment staff and start fresh Edited December 19, 2019 by ramonezy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin_Pernett Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 Falcons should Keep DQ but strip him of his roster building power. Keep Morris as assistant head coach/secondary coach. Keep Ulbrich as LB coach. Hire Kris Richard as DC. Offensive coaching staff should be sent to the shadow realm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokerSteve Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 The new HC will want to choose his coaching staff, so if we were to keep Ulbrich and Morris it would have to be because the new HC wants them. Otherwise, they will be looking for a new team just like Dead Man Dan. Lethal 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atljbo Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 4 minutes ago, Colin_Pernett said: Falcons should Keep DQ but strip him of his roster building power. Keep Morris as assistant head coach/secondary coach. Keep Ulbrich as LB coach. Hire Kris Richard as DC. Offensive coaching staff should be sent to the shadow realm. If u are taking everything from your HC andddd you are changing the Offensive side of the ball..... Why keep your HC then You either have to be all in on your HC or make a change FalconsIn2012 and PokerSteve 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiler11 Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 I think if we keep DQ or if we go the route of an offensive minded HC, then I suspect we keep both for continuity. Obviously if we bring in a new defensive minded HC then he'll want to bring in some of his own guys on the defensive side. As for who the DC would be between the two should we keep them... Officially I guess Morris would be named DC, he has more experience as both a HC and DC. In terms play-calling it probably continue to be a combination of the two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vel Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 1 hour ago, FalconsIn2012 said: There has been some good discussion on whether or not Quinn stays in 2020. Another topic of discussion is Morris & Ulbrich. Morris has a great resume on both sides of the ball and should have momentum for an HC position in the offseason. Same for Ulbrich as DC. So here is the question: which of those two should we prioritize keeping if Quinn stays? A month ago it was Ulbrich in a landslide; however, Morris appears to have closed the gap. What he did last week, disguising our coverages and mixing Cover 3, Tampa 2, Cover 6 etc was genius. So who ya keeping? Or should be State Line Quinn & his band of lovable cohorts? It's almost like disguising coverage helps the back end and makes the QB hold the ball a second longer, helping the pass rush. Rocket science. ATL Fan in the DMV, FalconsIn2012, Smiler11 and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconsIn2012 Posted December 19, 2019 Author Share Posted December 19, 2019 1 hour ago, vel said: It's almost like disguising coverage helps the back end and makes the QB hold the ball a second longer, helping the pass rush. Rocket science. It was a tremendous gameplan. Between running 53 concepts and mixing up a ton on the back end. Shanny admitted we confused the **** out of them PokerSteve and vel 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin_Pernett Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 31 minutes ago, atljbo said: If u are taking everything from your HC andddd you are changing the Offensive side of the ball..... Why keep your HC then You either have to be all in on your HC or make a change Head coaches aren’t meant to have final say on the roster or call plays. Those are added responsibilities we allowed him to have. He should just be the leader of this team and gameplan with his assistants. Obviously he’d still have a voice in the room with TD acquiring players, but not the bigger voice. No more drafting players because of their “competitive toughness score”. Look at this snippet about Mike Tomlin from last year. It’s entirely possible the Steelers storm back and make the playoffs this season. If Ben Roethlisberger is “on,” this team can beat anyone. The issue is a perfect storm composed of Roethlisberger’s inconsistency, ineptitude in drafting, and developing, defensive talent, miscommunications, schematic shortcomings on both sides of the ball, and undisciplined penalties. At some point, this all comes back to Tomlin. He’s been the constant in all of these pervasive issues for far too long. I want to make something clear, Mike Tomlin is not a bad coach. He’s a decent coach who’s a fantastic leader of men. He gets his team to play for him when their backs are against the wall — just look at last week against the Buccaneers. In fact, I’m predicting the Steelers to win against the Atlanta Falcons in Week 5 simply because they’ll show up in emphatic fashion to crawl their way out of another hole. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.behindthesteelcurtain.com/platform/amp/2018/10/1/17922346/it-might-be-time-to-start-talking-about-the-steelers-moving-on-from-mike-tomlin-hot-seat-nfl-news Sound familiar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesus Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 If Quinn stays, then neither is going anywhere. They aren't that desirable. If the turn turns around and has a great year, then sure. But Morris has been good here for quite some time and no one has interviewed him. Geneaut 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geaux_Falcons Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 Make both co-DC. This kind of setup seems to be working fine as is. Continue to do everything they've been doing with play calling duties. This current defensive run looks better than anything I've seen in a while from a Falcons perspective. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconsIn2012 Posted December 19, 2019 Author Share Posted December 19, 2019 59 minutes ago, ramonezy said: If our play is as unbearable as some say why would we keep anyone? Get rid of everyone mascot, pets, equipment staff and start fresh What’s odd is the defense was really only a problem for 3 weeks. If you remove weeks 5-8, we are allowing just 330 ypg which right around top 10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey563 Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 I think this falls into the college football quarterback adage... "If you have more than one starting quarterbacks then you have no starting quarterback"... If we have basically 3 DC's then do we really have a DC? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconsIn2012 Posted December 19, 2019 Author Share Posted December 19, 2019 8 hours ago, atljbo said: We went from having the dead last 3rd down Ds in the first 8 games to having a top 5 3rd down D these 6 games...... That's a epic improvement It’s staggering Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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