Home Field Advantage? Quinn vs Smitty

[Lethal]

One thing that I was curious about, discussing with others and just did some data mining on, was home records during the Quinn and Smith eras.  It seemed to me that we had a dominant team at home during the Smitty era and under DQ that advantage is completely gone and welp...

Year/Home Record/Place in Division

2019 - 2-5 (3rd)
2018 - 4-4 (2nd)
2017 - 5-3 (3rd)
2016 - 5-3 (1st)
2015 - 4-4 (2nd)

Total - 20-19

2014 - 3-5 (3rd)
2013 - 3-4 (3rd)
2012 - 7-1 (1st)
2011 - 6-2 (2nd)
2010 - 7-1 (1st)
2009 - 6-2 (2nd)
2008 - 7-1 (2nd)

Totals - 39-16
Over 1st Five Years - 33-7

We need to regain home field advantage.  Home wins are critical in this league and you can see just how much of a push it has been in the DQ era.  20-19 vs 33-7 over their first 5 seasons.  Wow.  I know comparing years, teams, rosters etc can be difficult because one year doesn't really apply to the next and vice versa, but in my opinion this is another reason Quinn has to go.  Quinn through five seasons has won the division once, second twice and third twice.  Smitty during his first five seasons won the division twice and second three times.

Win your home games, win the division.  This is a recipe for perennial success and being a constant contender, something Quinn has failed to deliver on.
 

[Romfal]

inb4 debate over people not being in their seats making noise in the new stadium

[Lethal]

1 minute ago, Romfal said:

inb4 debate over people not being in their seats making noise in the new stadium

You got me thinking about attendance, and it's actually up lol

https://www.statista.com/statistics/249664/average-home-attendance-of-the-atlanta-falcons/

[Jesus]

4 minutes ago, athell said:

One thing that I was curious about, discussing with others and just did some data mining on, was home records during the Quinn and Smith eras.  It seemed to me that we had a dominant team at home during the Smitty era and under DQ that advantage is completely gone and welp...

Year/Home Record/Place in Division

2019 - 2-5 (3rd)
2018 - 4-4 (2nd)
2017 - 5-3 (3rd)
2016 - 5-3 (1st)
2015 - 4-4 (2nd)

Total - 20-19

2014 - 3-5 (3rd)
2013 - 3-4 (3rd)
2012 - 7-1 (1st)
2011 - 6-2 (2nd)
2010 - 7-1 (1st)
2009 - 6-2 (2nd)
2008 - 7-1 (2nd)

Totals - 39-16
Over 1st Five Years - 33-7

We need to regain home field advantage.  Home wins are critical in this league and you can see just how much of a push it has been in the DQ era.  20-19 vs 33-7 over their first 5 seasons.  Wow.  I know comparing years, teams, rosters etc can be difficult because one year doesn't really apply to the next and vice versa, but in my opinion this is another reason Quinn has to go.  Quinn through five seasons has won the division once, second twice and third twice.  Smitty during his first five seasons won the division twice and second three times.

Win your home games, win the division.  This is a recipe for perennial success and being a constant contender, something Quinn has failed to deliver on.
 

2 home wins this year is terrible. Split it at 4-4 and the team might have been playing for playoffs.

[Lethal]

2 minutes ago, Jesus said:

2 home wins this year is terrible. Split it at 4-4 and the team might have been playing for playoffs.

And not only are the 2 wins terrible, we got our butts handed to us in the losses.  It wasn't even really close.  I remember those early Smith era years where I knew if we were home we had a great chance of winning.  That feeling is long gone.

[Falcons_Frenzy]

I wonder how much of those wins can be attributed to Roddy White pumping artificial crowd noise through the speakers 

[Jesus]

1 hour ago, athell said:

And not only are the 2 wins terrible, we got our butts handed to us in the losses.  It wasn't even really close.  I remember those early Smith era years where I knew if we were home we had a great chance of winning.  That feeling is long gone.

There has to be a way to translate this emotion the players are feeling for Quinn right now back to the team and to the fans. 

[SirCzah]

Came in here to look at the numbers comparison and instead just ended up being painfully reminded that we still have never won back-to-back NFC-S Division titles.

[ATLSlobberKnockers]

1 hour ago, athell said:

And not only are the 2 wins terrible, we got our butts handed to us in the losses.  It wasn't even really close.  I remember those early Smith era years where I knew if we were home we had a great chance of winning.  That feeling is long gone.

Dome field advantage died with the Ga dome

[Lethal]

1 minute ago, ATLSlobberKnockers said:

Dome field advantage died with the Ga dome

It has, but we have also been god awful during the 2 years that the MBD been in operation...winning will put seats in butts.  Winning cures all.

[Atlantafan21]

1 hour ago, athell said:

You got me thinking about attendance, and it's actually up lol

https://www.statista.com/statistics/249664/average-home-attendance-of-the-atlanta-falcons/

How is there 70,000 people there but only 10,000 actually in the seats? People having too much fun walking around the stadium or something. 

[Lethal]

1 minute ago, Atlantafan21 said:

How is there 70,000 people there but only 10,000 actually in the seats? People having too much fun walking around the stadium or something. 

So I live in AZ, but every week someone posts about all the fans in the concourse checking the dome out, as well as fans arriving late.  No clue, it is on my list of things to do ie check out a game at the new dome but that's what I hear/see.

[Jpg428gggg]

It’s two different types of teams. With Mike Smith, you had a good idea of which games you would win or lose. We would consistent beat the teams that were middle of the pack to bottom and struggle with the top teams. We were never the most talented but played smart football.

Quinn’s teams can beat the best but also lose to some awful teams. We are one of the most talented teams but can be wildly inconsistent. Some of that comes from having players who are better athletes than football players and some falls on coaches. 

[FalconsIn2012]

6 hours ago, athell said:

One thing that I was curious about, discussing with others and just did some data mining on, was home records during the Quinn and Smith eras.  It seemed to me that we had a dominant team at home during the Smitty era and under DQ that advantage is completely gone and welp...

Year/Home Record/Place in Division

2019 - 2-5 (3rd)
2018 - 4-4 (2nd)
2017 - 5-3 (3rd)
2016 - 5-3 (1st)
2015 - 4-4 (2nd)

Total - 20-19

2014 - 3-5 (3rd)
2013 - 3-4 (3rd)
2012 - 7-1 (1st)
2011 - 6-2 (2nd)
2010 - 7-1 (1st)
2009 - 6-2 (2nd)
2008 - 7-1 (2nd)

Totals - 39-16
Over 1st Five Years - 33-7

We need to regain home field advantage.  Home wins are critical in this league and you can see just how much of a push it has been in the DQ era.  20-19 vs 33-7 over their first 5 seasons.  Wow.  I know comparing years, teams, rosters etc can be difficult because one year doesn't really apply to the next and vice versa, but in my opinion this is another reason Quinn has to go.  Quinn through five seasons has won the division once, second twice and third twice.  Smitty during his first five seasons won the division twice and second three times.

Win your home games, win the division.  This is a recipe for perennial success and being a constant contender, something Quinn has failed to deliver on.
 

Since the end of 2012, we are one game under .500 at home.  Just not sure what to make of that 

[droopy1592]

I blame PSLs and the nicest dome on the planet 

[Sun Tzu 7]

7 hours ago, athell said:

You got me thinking about attendance, and it's actually up lol

https://www.statista.com/statistics/249664/average-home-attendance-of-the-atlanta-falcons/

That has to be ticket sales and not turnstiles at game day because the average is over 70,000.

I know the last two home games they didn’t get half that and they had a couple of those last year.

For the average to be that high that would mean they had games over the max capacity which clearly didn’t happen.

I bet that number goes down next year because I have the feeling ticket sales are going to nosedive and PSL defaults spike.

[ltstorm2]

8 hours ago, Falcons_Frenzy said:

I wonder how much of those wins can be attributed to Roddy White pumping artificial crowd noise through the speakers 

The crazy thing about the pumped in noise is that it was only pumped in when the crowd was already being loud.  It was unnecessary. 

[ltstorm2]

1 hour ago, droopy1592 said:

I blame PSLs and the nicest dome on the planet 

You might be on to something.  I had season tickets from 1999 till the new dome opened.  I left every game hoarse.

[mqg96]

athell I'm glad you brought this up. Another big part of this is the Falcons not doing well vs the AFC lately. When you're 1-12 at home vs. AFC opponents since 2013, that's automatically 2 home losses on your schedule almost every year. That doesn't help either. Then of course, Quinn bringing out the most jekyll and hyde teams ever. When you have players saying "we're fighting really hard for our coach", then you know there's a problem. Dan Quinn is a players' coach guy, he's not coaching the guys up like the players are his. 

[papachaz]

11 hours ago, Falcons_Frenzy said:

I wonder how much of those wins can be attributed to Roddy White pumping artificial crowd noise through the speakers 

wonder if that came into the thought 'process' when they were deciding on puttin him in the ring of honor

 

[ATL_Buff]

13 hours ago, Romfal said:

inb4 debate over people not being in their seats making noise in the new stadium

Not being a regular to the stadium, but I did watch a few series from a bar rail there.. fans in my section weren't about that yelling life either. Maybe give it a few years I don't know. Places with hardcore fans don't have amenities like we do because they don't sell. Eventually we will get to the point where sales aren't a deal and watching the team play is.. at least I hope so.

[since68andcounting]

15 hours ago, ATLSlobberKnockers said:

Dome field advantage died with the Ga dome

Yep. We have a losing record at home in the Mercedes Benz Morgue.

[since68andcounting]

15 hours ago, Atlantafan21 said:

How is there 70,000 people there but only 10,000 actually in the seats? People having too much fun walking around the stadium or something. 

Those numbers are flat out ********. There is no way we averaged over 70k attendance the last couple years. They're counting tickets sold, not people in the building. Yeah there might be 15,000 people roaming around, but not 35,000.

[thanat0s]

Two things:

First off, it’s very interesting how Smitty’s downturn in win totals directly coincides with Dimitroff purging many vets off the roster to save a couple of bucks. But that was Smith’s fault, right?

 

Second, while Quinn has certainly been ridiculously average to below average at home, the whole idea of a HFA was thrown out entirely when Blank built that monstrous monument to his ego. Our HFA was imploded and hauled away in dump trucks. 

[thanat0s]

28 minutes ago, since68andcounting said:

Those numbers are flat out ********. There is no way we averaged over 70k attendance the last couple years. They're counting tickets sold, not people in the building. Yeah there might be 15,000 people roaming around, but not 35,000.

Those 35k people are roaming around other places, enjoying their Sunday.