jlrfalcon Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 (edited) Ignoring whether the win today was meaningful toward Dan Quinn's longevity, there is the question of its impact on our draft position. Admittedly, our franchise QB Matt Ryan was #3 in the 2008 draft. Likewise, other significant QB's in franchise history Steve Bartkowski and Michael Vick were #1 picks in their draft years. We are not picking a QB high in this draft to my belief. However, when it comes to top 5 picks, our real return on non-QB's has been minimal since 1975 with maybe Bill Fralic in 1985 (#2) and Deion Sanders in 1989 (#5) as true returns for the spot. And, our return on top 6-10 picks has not been great except for perhaps Gerald Riggs at #9 in 1982 and Julio Jones at #6 in 2011. Jake Matthews was #6 in 2014, but his play has been at slightly above average at most. And, Vic Beasley, Lincoln Kennedy, Bruce Pickens, Aundray Bruce, Jamaal Anderson, Deangelo Hall, and others might have been questionable in the top 10. On the other hand, our picks in the 10-20 range have been actually pretty good and some of our late round picks have also been good (Mike Kenn, Tim Green, Roddy White, Calvin Ridley, etc.). Do we really need to endure lots of losing for a high draft pick if it is not really a guaranteed success based on prior history? Atlanta Falcons first-round draft picks Year Pick Player name Position 1966 1 Tommy Nobis * Linebacker 1966 15 Randy Johnson Quarterback 1967 — No pick — 1968 3 Claude Humphrey Defensive end 1969 2 George Kunz Offensive tackle 1970 12 John Small Linebacker 1971 7 Joe Profit Running back 1972 15 Clarence Ellis Safety 1973 — No pick — 1974 — No pick — 1975 1 Steve Bartkowski * Quarterback 1976 9 Bubba Bean Running back 1977 6 Warren Bryant Offensive tackle 1977 20 Wilson Faumuina Defensive tackle 1978 13 Mike Kenn Offensive tackle 1979 17 Don Smith Defensive end 1980 7 Junior Miller Tight end 1981 25 Bobby Butler Cornerback 1982 9 Gerald Riggs Running back 1983 16 Mike Pitts Defensive end 1984 9 Rick Bryan Defensive tackle 1985 2 Bill Fralic Offensive tackle 1986 2 Tony Casillas Defensive tackle 1986 17 Tim Green Linebacker 1987 12 Chris Miller Quarterback 1988 1 Aundray Bruce * Linebacker 1989 5 Deion Sanders Cornerback 1989 27 Shawn Collins Wide receiver 1990 20 Steve Broussard Running back 1991 3 Bruce Pickens Cornerback 1991 13 Mike Pritchard Wide receiver 1992 8 Bob Whitfield Offensive tackle 1992 19 Tony Smith Running back 1993 9 Lincoln Kennedy Offensive tackle 1994 — No pick — 1995 26 Devin Bush Sr. Safety 1996 — No pick — 1997 11 Michael Booker Cornerback 1998 12 Keith Brooking Linebacker 1999 30 Patrick Kerney Defensive end 2000 — No pick — 2001 1 Michael Vick * Quarterback 2002 18 T. J. Duckett Running back 2003 — No pick — 2004 8 DeAngelo Hall Cornerback 2004 29 Michael Jenkins Wide receiver 2005 27 Roddy White Wide receiver 2006 — No pick — 2007 8 Jamaal Anderson Defensive end 2008 3 Matt Ryan Quarterback 2008 21 Sam Baker Offensive tackle 2009 24 Peria Jerry Defensive tackle 2010 19 Sean Weatherspoon Linebacker 2011 6 Julio Jones Wide receiver 2012 — No pick — 2013 22 Desmond Trufant Cornerback 2014 6 Jake Matthews Offensive tackle 2015 8 Vic Beasley Outside Linebacker 2016 17 Keanu Neal Strong Safety 2017 26 Takkarist McKinley Defensive End 2018 26 Calvin Ridley Wide Receiver 2019 14 Chris Lindstrom Offensive Guard 2019 31 Kaleb McGary Offensive Tackle Edited December 16, 2019 by jlrfalcon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stizz Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 From your list, drafting in the top 10 is much better on our return than outside of it. Keep this up and we will miss out on Derrick Brown the same way we did Oliver last year. vitaman and XXVIII-III 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Someday soon Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 Now that's a trip down memory lane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Joe™ Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 How dare you. Need I remind of Jamaal Anderson's career highlights? Falcons_Frenzy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconofShadows Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 8 minutes ago, stizz said: From your list, drafting in the top 10 is much better on our return than outside of it. Keep this up and we will miss out on Derrick Brown the same way we did Oliver last year. In all honesty that probably gone already especially when Chase young says he may stay in college. They could all have been gone before our pick even if we lost Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stizz Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 1 minute ago, FalconofShadows said: In all honesty that probably gone already especially when Chase young says he may stay in college. They could all have been gone before our pick even if we lost He could have just been saying that. His family is probably talking to him on the chance to take life altering money and not risk injury in college. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghosts of Glanville Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 And the tankers wonder why some of us don’t worry about draft position. . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thanat0s Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 Having plenty of picks is super important in the cap era. Having top 10 picks is wildly overrated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ket222 Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 i think it's crazy to call a top 10 pick wildly overrated. we might not have done a great job in the past but we're much more likely to find elite talent there we needed an elite draft and we just wrecked our chances since the next two games are relatively easy to win we are picking at 12 at this point per tankathon I really think we've once again screwed ourselves and will be forever a bit above average especially given our lack of money for free agents, aging players, etc. I would have at least been really excited about the draft this year if we had a top 3-4 pick -- we could have even dropped down and picked up more picks there is just nothing exciting about this team anymore unless your biggest qualification is winning the occasional 'exciting game' rather than championships Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcons_Frenzy Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 1 hour ago, Sir Joe™ said: How dare you. Need I remind of Jamaal Anderson's career highlights? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlrfalcon Posted December 16, 2019 Author Share Posted December 16, 2019 1 hour ago, stizz said: From your list, drafting in the top 10 is much better on our return than outside of it. Keep this up and we will miss out on Derrick Brown the same way we did Oliver last year. The QB's are definitely better when we pick 1-10, but what other position group has really been that much better? Picks 11-30 (30 total) Picks 1-10 (24 total) Chris Miller Quarterback Matt Ryan Quarterback Randy Johnson Quarterback Steve Bartkowski * Quarterback Michael Vick * Quarterback T. J. Duckett Running back Gerald Riggs Running back Steve Broussard Running back Bubba Bean Running back Tony Smith Running back Joe Profit Running back Chris Lindstrom Offensive Guard Bill Fralic Offensive tackle Mike Kenn Offensive tackle Warren Bryant Offensive tackle Sam Baker Offensive tackle Jake Matthews Offensive tackle Kaleb McGary Offensive Tackle Bob Whitfield Offensive tackle George Kunz Offensive tackle Lincoln Kennedy Offensive tackle Junior Miller Tight end Roddy White Wide receiver Julio Jones Wide receiver Michael Jenkins Wide receiver Calvin Ridley Wide Receiver Shawn Collins Wide receiver Mike Pritchard Wide receiver Peria Jerry Defensive tackle Rick Bryan Defensive tackle Wilson Faumuina Defensive tackle Tony Casillas Defensive tackle Patrick Kerney Defensive end Claude Humphrey Defensive end Takkarist McKinley Defensive End Jamaal Anderson Defensive end Mike Pitts Defensive end Don Smith Defensive end Tim Green Linebacker Tommy Nobis * Linebacker Sean Weatherspoon Linebacker Aundray Bruce * Linebacker Keith Brooking Linebacker Vic Beasley Outside Linebacker John Small Linebacker Clarence Ellis Safety Deion Sanders Cornerback Desmond Trufant Cornerback DeAngelo Hall Cornerback Keanu Neal Strong Safety Bruce Pickens Cornerback Michael Booker Cornerback Bobby Butler Cornerback Devin Bush Sr. Safety Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.