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Refried Beans

Falcons next to dead last in running game in NFL, this is why we dont win

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2 hours ago, Refried Beans said:

The numbers dont lie, if you dont run the football you aint going to the play-offs and you cant win the hardware if you cant make the play-offs. NFL team leaders for rushing the football thru Week 15. Wow, novel concept. You would figure Blank and Co. would figure this out one year. Better line, better running game, more wins: 

Rushing
Rk Team G Pts/G TotPts Att Att/G Yds Avg Yds/G TD Lng 1st 1st% 20+ 40+ FUM
1 Baltimore Ravens        14 33.7   472 512 36.6 2,830 5.5 202.1 19 63T 157 30.7 21 5 8
2 San Francisco 49ers 13 30.5 397 424 32.6 1,938 4.6 149.1 17 83T 91 21.5 14 4 6
3 Seattle Seahawks 13 26.2 341 397 30.5 1,830 4.6 140.8 12 59 101 25.4 13 2 11
4 Minnesota Vikings 13 26.1 339 397 30.5 1,765 4.4 135.8 16 75T 92 23.2 13 2 7
5 Buffalo Bills 13 21.1 274 384 29.5 1,759 4.6 135.3 12 41 98 25.5 13 1 10
6 Indianapolis Colts 13 22.8 296 395 30.4 1,734 4.4 133.4 11 63T 103 26.1 10 3 2
7 Houston Texans 13 24.4 317 348 26.8 1,692 4.9 130.2 13 58 89 25.6 13 4 9
8 Tennessee Titans 13 24.5 318 352 27.1 1,666 4.7 128.2 16 74T 80 22.7 9 2 8
9 Cleveland Browns 13 21 273 331 25.5 1,618 4.9 124.5 14 88T 77 23.3 9 4 5
10 Dallas Cowboys 13 25.7 334 352 27.1 1,613 4.6 124.1 14 42 91 25.9 6 1 5

8 of top ten teams in play-off hunt. Where are our Falcons with our "pro bowl" piece of trash Matthews? Near the bottom. Great offense Koetter. What the front office excuse  going to be this year to save their jobs? Off with another coach, but still cant construct a o-line with manhood. 

 

30Atlanta Falcons1323.130028521.91,0503.780.87286723.5604

31New York Jets1417.624732423.11,0863.477.66244915.1102

32Miami Dolphins131722126820.68753.367.38284717.5205

Look at who is #1 and #2!

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2 hours ago, Knight of God said:

In before “we are always tailing”

LOL...

As we’ve discussed, down 28-3 with just 18 minutes left in SB 51, the Patriots ran the ball 12 times en route to overcoming a 25 point deficit.  
 

Trailing should never make your 1-dimensional 

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I seem remember reading a thread on here last year where folks tried to convince me and several others on here that the running game was overrated and didn't equal winning. As I said in the thread that day and as I will say today, no one will convince me that the run game is the key to success, both offensively and defensively.

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1 hour ago, FalconsIn2012 said:

LOL...

As we’ve discussed, down 28-3 with just 18 minutes left in SB 51, the Patriots ran the ball 12 times en route to overcoming a 25 point deficit.  
 

Trailing should never make your 1-dimensional 

How many times did they throw it?

 

The pats were very one dimensional

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2 hours ago, Rings said:

Multiple Tight End Sets Used   |   Run Game Success Rate   |   YPC

Weeks 1-13:    37%   |   43%   |    3.5 YPC
Week 14:         47%   |   50%   |   5.0 YPC

I mean, maybe Dirk will say “it was just CAR’s 32nd DVOA run Defense; let’s never use 2+TE run attempts again this year just to be Safe”... :ninja:

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24 minutes ago, FalconsIn2012 said:

If you run the ball 12 times in a quarter and a half you are keeping the threat of run very much alive...and that, of course, is the point

A couple of things...

1) their Offense had already worn out our Defense by that point...so, they could pretty much do whatever they wanted (Defense allowed several long drives throughout the game before then) and ironically the pick 6 even hurt the TOP/play totals quite a bit before halftime. Again, defense hurt itself in terms of war of attrition.

2) Our Offense likewise was not burning enough clock or sustaining as long of drives...(part of me had wondered in the past if DQ wanted a more controlled offense with Sark sustaining drives and relying more on PPD rather than PPG; of course the 2017 RZ issues wasn’t part of that plan).... anyway we would either get chunk plays on offense and score fast OR stall on drives; especially our final 3 drives before losing the lead....but if we only ran the ball more ourselves we win the game and NE’s running the ball or w/e they had been doing to move the ball most of the game...it would not have mattered. Left time...D# was dead by the 4th Q and couldn’t get to Brady...its like when you see Ryan with a lot of time usually leading to good things. Easy pickings. Belichick let us beat ourselves basically. They stayed with the form of control they could still rely on. Why get in a shootout with a team you are behind 3 scores already? Just try to chip away slowly and give your Defense a rest. The Falcons ironically had abandoned the run by contrast...

/War&Peace

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47 minutes ago, FalconsIn2012 said:

If you run the ball 12 times in a quarter and a half you are keeping the threat of run very much alive...and that, of course, is the point

They threw the ball 75% of the game.

That is about as one dimensional as you can get

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3 minutes ago, falconsd56 said:

They threw the ball 75% of the game.

That is about as one dimensional as you can get

Well, they were behind multiple scores so...they could still run with success to keep us honest and they did...even amidst throwing that much.

Our problem is our run game with Dirk is a joke; at least prior to CAR last week...

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2 minutes ago, Schwarzwald said:

Well, they were behind multiple scores so...they could still run with success to keep us honest and they did...even amidst throwing that much.

Our problem is our run game with Dirk is a joke; at least prior to CAR last week...

He really is not but I don't feel like getting into tonight :)...I am in the minority with it......it not my fault every one else is wrong ;)

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2 hours ago, kschreck said:

Sadly we knew this was one of Koetter's tendencies coming in to the season so not surprising. 

The weird thing is that in Jacksonville they had a great running game under Koetter and in year 1 in Tampa it was great. But it's been complete trash in 4 years with the Falcons. It makes no sense, especially since we don't even try.

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11 hours ago, Knight of God said:

In before “we are always tailing”

 

11 hours ago, caponine said:

But but we're always behind so we cant run :sadwave:, I have it on good authority that we are down so much ( 7-14 pts) that we have to pass and stop running 

Yep. Really can't argue that point. Especially in the case for our backs. I'm sure Freeman, Hill, Ollison, and Barner all have less touches combined than most backs in the NFL. So it's not a question of can we run the ball. It's a question of will we run the ball.

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AUTiger- The reason Koetter had a great run game in Jacksonville and has been worthless since is because the game has passed him by. Most OCs are using Spotify and ours is still buying CDs and complaining when they get scratched and dont work. This will be the same issue we have with McCarthy if we hire him. Falcons need to get with the times. 

Edited by Refried Beans

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See rule changes, since 2012, you would figure with our Team President on the rules committee the Falcons would be more abreast to these changes and not hire a OC like Koetter, all these rule changes go against a old school OC like Koetter, what worked in 2012 will NOT work today. In order to get around these rule changes you see MODERN day OCs rolling the pocket, running bootleg, using as much vertical game as horizontal. 

https://www.playsmartplaysafe.com/newsroom/videos/nfl-health-safety-related-rules-changes-since-2002/

 

 

 

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8 hours ago, falconsd56 said:

They threw the ball 75% of the game.

That is about as one dimensional as you can get

I’m talking the final quarter and a half.  When they were down 28-3.

On the first drive after we went up 28-3 they ran the ball 6 times.  That drive set up the rest of the game.  

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