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16 hours ago, FalconsIn2012 said:

I just don’t know what to say about this.   I just don’t.  If one believes this metric, we should invest our entire draft into the secondary.  Clearly the back end is preventing our DL from getting the recognition they deserve...lol

 

Team Pass Rush Win Rate

1. Atlanta Falcons, 54%
2. Dallas Cowboys, 54%
3. Tampa Bay Buccaneers, 53%
4. Philadelphia Eagles, 53%
5. Los Angeles Rams, 50%
6. Pittsburgh Steelers, 50%
7. Jacksonville Jaguars, 49%
8. Buffalo Bills, 49%
9. Baltimore Ravens, 48%
10. Arizona Cardinals, 47%
11. Green Bay Packers, 47%
12. New York Jets, 46%
13. San Francisco 49ers, 45%
14. Los Angeles Chargers, 45%

 

Top 10 DE/OLB Pass Rush Win Rate

1. Robert Quinn, Cowboys, 32%
2. Takkarist McKinley, Falcons, 29%
3. T.J. Watt, Steelers, 28%
4. Myles Garrett, Browns, 26%
5. Shaquil Barrett, Buccaneers, 25%
6. DeMarcus Lawrence, Cowboys, 25%
7. Jadeveon Clowney, Seahawks, 25%
8. Dante Fowler Jr., Rams, 25%
9. Joey Bosa, Chargers, 24%
10. Za'Darius Smith, Packers, 24%

Top 10 DT Pass Rush Win Rate

1. Aaron Donald, Rams, 25%
2. Grady Jarrett, Falcons, 22%
3. Chris Jones, Chiefs, 19%
4. Calais Campbell, Jaguars, 18%
5. Maliek Collins, Cowboys, 18%
6. Ed Oliver, Bills, 17%
7. Vita Vea, Buccaneers, 15%
8. Denico Autry, Colts, 15%
9. Quinton Jefferson, Seahawks, 14%
10. Corey Peters, Cardinals, 13%

 

Team Pass Block Win Rate

1. Green Bay Packers, 70%
2. Baltimore Ravens, 68%
3. Oakland Raiders, 65%
4. Indianapolis Colts, 65%

27. Denver Broncos, 52%
28. Seattle Seahawks, 52%
29. Atlanta Falcons, 50%
30. Carolina Panthers, 47%
31. Cincinnati Bengals, 44%
32. Miami Dolphins, 41%

 

Stats ain't shiiiii 

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17 hours ago, FalconsIn2012 said:

I just don’t know what to say about this.   I just don’t.  If one believes this metric, we should invest our entire draft into the secondary.  Clearly the back end is preventing our DL from getting the recognition they deserve...lol

 

Team Pass Rush Win Rate

1. Atlanta Falcons, 54%
2. Dallas Cowboys, 54%
3. Tampa Bay Buccaneers, 53%
4. Philadelphia Eagles, 53%
5. Los Angeles Rams, 50%
6. Pittsburgh Steelers, 50%
7. Jacksonville Jaguars, 49%
8. Buffalo Bills, 49%
9. Baltimore Ravens, 48%
10. Arizona Cardinals, 47%
11. Green Bay Packers, 47%
12. New York Jets, 46%
13. San Francisco 49ers, 45%
14. Los Angeles Chargers, 45%

 

Top 10 DE/OLB Pass Rush Win Rate

1. Robert Quinn, Cowboys, 32%
2. Takkarist McKinley, Falcons, 29%
3. T.J. Watt, Steelers, 28%
4. Myles Garrett, Browns, 26%
5. Shaquil Barrett, Buccaneers, 25%
6. DeMarcus Lawrence, Cowboys, 25%
7. Jadeveon Clowney, Seahawks, 25%
8. Dante Fowler Jr., Rams, 25%
9. Joey Bosa, Chargers, 24%
10. Za'Darius Smith, Packers, 24%

Top 10 DT Pass Rush Win Rate

1. Aaron Donald, Rams, 25%
2. Grady Jarrett, Falcons, 22%
3. Chris Jones, Chiefs, 19%
4. Calais Campbell, Jaguars, 18%
5. Maliek Collins, Cowboys, 18%
6. Ed Oliver, Bills, 17%
7. Vita Vea, Buccaneers, 15%
8. Denico Autry, Colts, 15%
9. Quinton Jefferson, Seahawks, 14%
10. Corey Peters, Cardinals, 13%

 

Team Pass Block Win Rate

1. Green Bay Packers, 70%
2. Baltimore Ravens, 68%
3. Oakland Raiders, 65%
4. Indianapolis Colts, 65%

27. Denver Broncos, 52%
28. Seattle Seahawks, 52%
29. Atlanta Falcons, 50%
30. Carolina Panthers, 47%
31. Cincinnati Bengals, 44%
32. Miami Dolphins, 41%

 

As an Eagles fan that metric is a lie. No Eagles on either top ten DE or DT list is a dead giveaway. Plus what I’ve seen with my own eyes. Miami, Eli last week, Vikings blowout.

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I don’t always like PFF’s grades, but for context they have our pass rush ranked 11th and coverage 25th, which seems a little closer to reality.  Had our two best coverage games as week 10 & 11, when we beat the Saints and Carolina.  Wasn’t the highest graded pass rush, but the secondary doing their job gave pass rush chance to get home.

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15 hours ago, FalconsIn2012 said:

I like your analogy.

Does anyone know how they measure pass rush win rate?  What constitutes a win on any given pass play?

Pretty sure I read it’s % of time you beat 1on1 matchups OR your blocker...in under 2.5seconds.

There is some usefulness to tracking that but what does it matter if one guy can be schemed around? You can deny pressures merely by changing how you address a player that is making an impact. In other words, someone else had to step up...another DL, a blitzer, COVERAGE sacks...etc.

There is a reason Morris becomes DB coach and we suddenly start producing sacks; including on Brees. I think his OL was more injured our 2nd meeting as well(?) But I digress. Yet again, their offense adjusted and used quick pass game instead. There are ways of dealing with a pass rush.

Our offense and our defense telling the other how to do their jobs:

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4 hours ago, Rings said:

I don’t always like PFF’s grades, but for context they have our pass rush ranked 11th and coverage 25th, which seems a little closer to reality.  Had our two best coverage games as week 10 & 11, when we beat the Saints and Carolina.  Wasn’t the highest graded pass rush, but the secondary doing their job gave pass rush chance to get home.

Exactly. It’s not that complicated.

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12 hours ago, FalconsIn2012 said:

I was told Takk generates far more pressure and hits the QB way more than Vic ever could.

Not far more, but more.  Vic has been in the league two years longer, rushed the passer 15 more times this year, and has less pressures and hits.  Oh, and is counting 12.8 million vs 2.8 million against the cap.  I would rather have Takk any day over Beasley, I’d rather replace them both, but if I was stuck with one, it would be Takk 100%.

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