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I just don’t know what to say about this.   I just don’t.  If one believes this metric, we should invest our entire draft into the secondary.  Clearly the back end is preventing our DL from getting the recognition they deserve...lol

 

Team Pass Rush Win Rate

1. Atlanta Falcons, 54%
2. Dallas Cowboys, 54%
3. Tampa Bay Buccaneers, 53%
4. Philadelphia Eagles, 53%
5. Los Angeles Rams, 50%
6. Pittsburgh Steelers, 50%
7. Jacksonville Jaguars, 49%
8. Buffalo Bills, 49%
9. Baltimore Ravens, 48%
10. Arizona Cardinals, 47%
11. Green Bay Packers, 47%
12. New York Jets, 46%
13. San Francisco 49ers, 45%
14. Los Angeles Chargers, 45%

 

Top 10 DE/OLB Pass Rush Win Rate

1. Robert Quinn, Cowboys, 32%
2. Takkarist McKinley, Falcons, 29%
3. T.J. Watt, Steelers, 28%
4. Myles Garrett, Browns, 26%
5. Shaquil Barrett, Buccaneers, 25%
6. DeMarcus Lawrence, Cowboys, 25%
7. Jadeveon Clowney, Seahawks, 25%
8. Dante Fowler Jr., Rams, 25%
9. Joey Bosa, Chargers, 24%
10. Za'Darius Smith, Packers, 24%

Top 10 DT Pass Rush Win Rate

1. Aaron Donald, Rams, 25%
2. Grady Jarrett, Falcons, 22%
3. Chris Jones, Chiefs, 19%
4. Calais Campbell, Jaguars, 18%
5. Maliek Collins, Cowboys, 18%
6. Ed Oliver, Bills, 17%
7. Vita Vea, Buccaneers, 15%
8. Denico Autry, Colts, 15%
9. Quinton Jefferson, Seahawks, 14%
10. Corey Peters, Cardinals, 13%

 

Team Pass Block Win Rate

1. Green Bay Packers, 70%
2. Baltimore Ravens, 68%
3. Oakland Raiders, 65%
4. Indianapolis Colts, 65%

27. Denver Broncos, 52%
28. Seattle Seahawks, 52%
29. Atlanta Falcons, 50%
30. Carolina Panthers, 47%
31. Cincinnati Bengals, 44%
32. Miami Dolphins, 41%

 

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The front seven and the secondary have to work together. It doesn't matter how fast the defensive lineman beats the man in front of him if the QB can get rid of the ball faster because someone is open. Just look at the four games the Falcons have won this year. What do they all have in common? The pass rush was allowed to get home because the coverage was on point and forced the QB to hold onto the ball. In every game the Falcons lost this year the opposing QB never had to hold onto the ball because guys were open immediately off the snap.

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2 minutes ago, Ghosts of Glanville said:

It’s not a useful stat because it’s not directly related to the result.  Beating your man but not getting pressure on the QB does no good.  It’s like a MLB pitcher that is top 5 in strikeouts but has an ERA of 5.00.   

Yup. The world is full of close but not quite good enough. Definition of mediocrity.

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3 minutes ago, Ghosts of Glanville said:

It’s not a useful stat because it’s not directly related to the result.  Beating your man but not getting pressure on the QB does no good.  It’s like a MLB pitcher that is top 5 in strikeouts but has an ERA of 5.00.   

I like your analogy.

Does anyone know how they measure pass rush win rate?  What constitutes a win on any given pass play?

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41 minutes ago, Ghosts of Glanville said:

It’s not a useful stat because it’s not directly related to the result.  Beating your man but not getting pressure on the QB does no good.  It’s like a MLB pitcher that is top 5 in strikeouts but has an ERA of 5.00.   

I was thinking more like a pitcher that has the lowest stolen based percentage in the league but also has one of the highest ERA in the league! 

I debated some other guy earlier this year that brought up this same analytics stat before. 

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26 minutes ago, Ghosts of Glanville said:

It’s not a useful stat because it’s not directly related to the result.  Beating your man but not getting pressure on the QB does no good.  It’s like a MLB pitcher that is top 5 in strikeouts but has an ERA of 5.00.   

Being honest, though.  The Falcons are the only team on the list you raise an eyebrow at.  Every other team gets after the QB and is a top defense...except the #1 ranked team

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8 hours ago, FalconsIn2012 said:

I just don’t know what to say about this.   I just don’t.  If one believes this metric, we should invest our entire draft into the secondary.  Clearly the back end is preventing our DL from getting the recognition they deserve...lol

 

Team Pass Rush Win Rate

1. Atlanta Falcons, 54%
2. Dallas Cowboys, 54%
3. Tampa Bay Buccaneers, 53%
4. Philadelphia Eagles, 53%
5. Los Angeles Rams, 50%
6. Pittsburgh Steelers, 50%
7. Jacksonville Jaguars, 49%
8. Buffalo Bills, 49%
9. Baltimore Ravens, 48%
10. Arizona Cardinals, 47%
11. Green Bay Packers, 47%
12. New York Jets, 46%
13. San Francisco 49ers, 45%
14. Los Angeles Chargers, 45%

 

Top 10 DE/OLB Pass Rush Win Rate

1. Robert Quinn, Cowboys, 32%
2. Takkarist McKinley, Falcons, 29%
3. T.J. Watt, Steelers, 28%
4. Myles Garrett, Browns, 26%
5. Shaquil Barrett, Buccaneers, 25%
6. DeMarcus Lawrence, Cowboys, 25%
7. Jadeveon Clowney, Seahawks, 25%
8. Dante Fowler Jr., Rams, 25%
9. Joey Bosa, Chargers, 24%
10. Za'Darius Smith, Packers, 24%

Top 10 DT Pass Rush Win Rate

1. Aaron Donald, Rams, 25%
2. Grady Jarrett, Falcons, 22%
3. Chris Jones, Chiefs, 19%
4. Calais Campbell, Jaguars, 18%
5. Maliek Collins, Cowboys, 18%
6. Ed Oliver, Bills, 17%
7. Vita Vea, Buccaneers, 15%
8. Denico Autry, Colts, 15%
9. Quinton Jefferson, Seahawks, 14%
10. Corey Peters, Cardinals, 13%

 

Team Pass Block Win Rate

1. Green Bay Packers, 70%
2. Baltimore Ravens, 68%
3. Oakland Raiders, 65%
4. Indianapolis Colts, 65%

27. Denver Broncos, 52%
28. Seattle Seahawks, 52%
29. Atlanta Falcons, 50%
30. Carolina Panthers, 47%
31. Cincinnati Bengals, 44%
32. Miami Dolphins, 41%

 

Dont give a **** about these stats. 

To me, how many points this defense gives up at ease? Year after year....that's been the biggest issue with this team.

We just cant effin hold any lead Ryan & Co build up.

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If you only look at outcomes (sacks, points given up, Super Bowls won) you are looking at an aggregation of all kinds of things, including luck.  This is potentially a very useful stat.  I only say potentially because I don't really know how valid it is at measuring the thing it claims to measure - the rate at which the d-lineman beats the o-lineman - if accurate, it is really useful.  AUTiger has the right of it, to my way of thinking, and winning the pass rush battle is only part of what determines the outcome (sacks, QB pressures, etc.).

To my way of thinking, the better analogy is a pitcher with a high strikeout rate, but a high ERA due to play in front of a shoddy defense.

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1 hour ago, Draftnut57 said:

You know why don't you?  Not to mention any names,, his initials are ,,,,  Vic Beasley !!!!!!!!!!!!!  :slick:    Vic @  Grady opens the door for  DE team Mate   Tack McKinley to get to the QB... and in that process gets a view Sacks his self.     :tiphat:

Whuuuuuuuuut???  My comprehension is apparently way down today.

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