Francis York Morgan

100% sure TD is gone

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Why? Because we haven't heard anything about a single UFA on this team. With guys like Austin Hooper becoming available, why wouldn't they get a head start? I get the strong feeling they're waiting for the new GM (and likely HC, though that's marginally less certain) before making any big money decisions...especially with how cap strapped the team currently is. Too many ugly contracts to underperforming players.

The Sambrailo/Carpenter/Brown trifecta is truly a marvel in how to **** up an offseason's free agency. 10.5 mil to those three this year, and almost 18 mil next year (over 14m of it dead money)...and not a current quality starter among them. Can you believe it? And that's not even mentioning the Beasley situation. Did you know he's making almost as much as Za'Darius and Preston Smith put together this year? 

Not trying to act like I figured something big out with this proclamation about free agency...but for the Dimi haters, I think this about puts it to bed. All of his power has been taken away. All he was allowed to do lately is negotiate trades, and maybe he's working on scouting still. He won't be here next season, period.

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Time for new blood and sweeping changes. TD's time as GM here has clearly come and gone with the horrific off-season insanity. Keeping Sambrillo and bringing in two mid- to lower-tier OL and giving them fat contracts never seemed to make sense from the get-go. At best, an amateurish knee-jerk reaction to Ryan taking so many hits last year.

But I can't believe Quinn has any chance at all of staying regardless of what happens with TD. The fans have given up on him en mass. They're not going to be okay with him back on the sideline next season.

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With these bird brain decisions are you 100 that TD was responsible for them and the coach had no input into these picks.

Understand the narrative but in my eyes you gotta tell the whole story.

If your looking at it now the off season plan which both the HC and GM would have both had there finger prints on has failed miserably the idea your throwing it onto one mans shoulder is just wrong.

Dan Quinn is cognisant to this off season plan. TD for sure has facilitated thee off season no doubt about it.

Question being is if your not bringing TD back how can DQ have a job,how can he.Hes run this team into the ground the last 2 years..

Whoever is found responsible for hires of Sark & Koetter is thee first guy to be gone.

 

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33 minutes ago, kiwifalcon said:

With these bird brain decisions are you 100 that TD was responsible for them and the coach had no input into these picks.

Understand the narrative but in my eyes you gotta tell the whole story.

If your looking at it now the off season plan which both the HC and GM would have both had there finger prints on has failed miserably the idea your throwing onto one mans shoulder is just wrong.

Dan Quinn is cognisant to this off season plan TD for sure has facilitated thee off season no doubt about it.

Question being is if your not bring TD back how can DQ have a job how can he.Hes run this team into the ground the last 2 years..

Whoever is found responsible for hires of Sark & Koetter is thee first guy to gone.

 

Thomas Dimitroff probably wanted Koetter. Quinn for Sark.

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49 minutes ago, Falcons Fan MVP said:

Thomas Dimitroff probably wanted Koetter. Quinn for Sark.

If that’s the case both are history.

I’m pretty sure under this structure they have now the GM is more of a facilitator of what the coaches want.

Its much like when DQ first started he would have wanted to work with KS.I very much doubt he’d have any of his staff forced on him.I just can’t see the point of that sought of thought process or it being beneficial for the team.

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2 hours ago, kiwifalcon said:

If that’s the case both are history.

I’m pretty sure under this structure they have now the GM is more of a facilitator of what the coaches want.

Its much like when DQ first started he would have wanted to work with KS.I very much doubt he’d have any of his staff forced on him.I just can’t see the point of that sought of thought process or it being beneficial for the team.

Agree, bru. I just don't see DQ having a coordinator forced on him, not do I see him having zero input on FA. Carpenter has roots in Seattle and played on seahawks when DQ was DC there. So, I'd bet my bottom dollar that the former hawks DL guy knew (or thought he knew) what Carpenter could bring to the Falcons.

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31 minutes ago, Smiler11 said:

To be fair they don't often negotiate new deals during the season, even poor seasons like this one. 

I do think there is an element of AB waiting for the season to end before evaluating everything, but I wouldn't take it as a guarantee TD is gone.

This.

teams get a head start on signing their own before UFA starts, that’s when most are signed. Every team has a handful of pending UFAs, and very few are getting signed right now. (I remember seeing 2 in the past month or so)

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6 hours ago, Francis York Morgan said:

Why? Because we haven't heard anything about a single UFA on this team. With guys like Austin Hooper becoming available, why wouldn't they get a head start? I get the strong feeling they're waiting for the new GM (and likely HC, though that's marginally less certain) before making any big money decisions...especially with how cap strapped the team currently is. Too many ugly contracts to underperforming players.

The Sambrailo/Carpenter/Brown trifecta is truly a marvel in how to **** up an offseason's free agency. 10.5 mil to those three this year, and almost 18 mil next year (over 14m of it dead money)...and not a current quality starter among them. Can you believe it? And that's not even mentioning the Beasley situation. Did you know he's making almost as much as Za'Darius and Preston Smith put together this year? 

Not trying to act like I figured something big out with this proclamation about free agency...but for the Dimi haters, I think this about puts it to bed. All of his power has been taken away. All he was allowed to do lately is negotiate trades, and maybe he's working on scouting still. He won't be here next season, period.

Not so fast, my friend. He’s still got those filthy pics of Arthur stowed away in a safe place. :ninja:

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1 hour ago, thajames said:

In regards to the cap situation I wonder how much Blank has contributed to that with his "Falcon for life" comments. If that doesn't force your hand as a GM I don't know what does.  Not a pass for TD just an observation. 

Yeah, Blank has been at the root of many of this franchise's problems.  Making such a statement takes away negotiation power and put TD is a tough spot.  

JJ is a great player, but his contract, along with several other deals, have put this team in a tough cap situation. 

JJ is the best WR in the league, but it should be obvious to anyone that having the best WR does not bring championships.  In hindsight, it might have been better to plan a future without JJ because right now, we have an aging QB/WR tandem that soaks up a whole lot of cap space.  

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6 hours ago, PokerSteve said:

Time for new blood and sweeping changes. TD's time as GM here has clearly come and gone with the horrific off-season insanity. Keeping Sambrillo and bringing in two mid- to lower-tier OL and giving them fat contracts never seemed to make sense from the get-go. At best, an amateurish knee-jerk reaction to Ryan taking so many hits last year.

But I can't believe Quinn has any chance at all of staying regardless of what happens with TD. The fans have given up on him en mass. They're not going to be okay with him back on the sideline next season.

No offense but I hope nobody in the Falcons org. is making decisions based off what the fans want. 

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6 hours ago, Francis York Morgan said:

Why? Because we haven't heard anything about a single UFA on this team. With guys like Austin Hooper becoming available, why wouldn't they get a head start? I get the strong feeling they're waiting for the new GM (and likely HC, though that's marginally less certain) before making any big money decisions...especially with how cap strapped the team currently is. Too many ugly contracts to underperforming players.

The Sambrailo/Carpenter/Brown trifecta is truly a marvel in how to **** up an offseason's free agency. 10.5 mil to those three this year, and almost 18 mil next year (over 14m of it dead money)...and not a current quality starter among them. Can you believe it? And that's not even mentioning the Beasley situation. Did you know he's making almost as much as Za'Darius and Preston Smith put together this year? 

Not trying to act like I figured something big out with this proclamation about free agency...but for the Dimi haters, I think this about puts it to bed. All of his power has been taken away. All he was allowed to do lately is negotiate trades, and maybe he's working on scouting still. He won't be here next season, period.

I sure hope so...he's 100% gone!

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1 hour ago, thajames said:

In regards to the cap situation I wonder how much Blank has contributed to that with his "Falcon for life" comments. If that doesn't force your hand as a GM I don't know what does.  Not a pass for TD just an observation. 

Thomas Dimitroff will be a Falcon for life. - Arthur Blank. Lol

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5 hours ago, kiwifalcon said:

If that’s the case both are history.

I’m pretty sure under this structure they have now the GM is more of a facilitator of what the coaches want.

Its much like when DQ first started he would have wanted to work with KS.I very much doubt he’d have any of his staff forced on him.I just can’t see the point of that sought of thought process or it being beneficial for the team.

If Sarkisian was still here we wouldn't be complaining about the offense.

Well, some folks will literally complain about anything, but most wouldn't.

If, as I have suspected, Quinn was pressured to fire Sark and take over the DC role, and if as I have further suspected he was pressured to hire Koetter, then the problems we are seeing fall on whoever made those decisions.

And if I'm wrong and Quinn is responsible for both of them, then he needs to be fired and I'm just wrong.  But I don't think I am.  Too many parallels to what we've seen before.

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Under any circumstances, Hooper gets a new contract, right? If they don´t extend with one of the best TE in the game, i hope that the entire organisation will be relocated to Alaska. 

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7 hours ago, Falcons Fan MVP said:

Thomas Dimitroff probably wanted Koetter. Quinn for Sark.

If thats the case, DQ stays. Sark had a top 8 offense and 64% redzone while playing on his SIXTH guard of the season.

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8 hours ago, Francis York Morgan said:

Why? Because we haven't heard anything about a single UFA on this team. With guys like Austin Hooper becoming available, why wouldn't they get a head start? I get the strong feeling they're waiting for the new GM (and likely HC, though that's marginally less certain) before making any big money decisions...especially with how cap strapped the team currently is. Too many ugly contracts to underperforming players.

The Sambrailo/Carpenter/Brown trifecta is truly a marvel in how to **** up an offseason's free agency. 10.5 mil to those three this year, and almost 18 mil next year (over 14m of it dead money)...and not a current quality starter among them. Can you believe it? And that's not even mentioning the Beasley situation. Did you know he's making almost as much as Za'Darius and Preston Smith put together this year? 

Not trying to act like I figured something big out with this proclamation about free agency...but for the Dimi haters, I think this about puts it to bed. All of his power has been taken away. All he was allowed to do lately is negotiate trades, and maybe he's working on scouting still. He won't be here next season, period.

Saying that you think he is going to get fired is one thing, but it becomes click bait when you say 100%, like you actually have knowledge of the situation.  Fact is, you don't know anything, and I would say it's better than 50% that he stays. Nobody on this site knows how much of an influence that AB has played.  AB says, go get some OL, and TD goes and did the best he could last offseason.  When AB says you will fix this OL NOW!, TD didn't have a choice. In a normal year, he may not have brought in both of those FA OL, and then turned around and drafted 2 first round OL. He did what the boss said, and bosses like it when you do what they say.  AB likes TD.

The other reason I think TD stays is that the team has shown flashes of being able to dominate NFL teams. I think AB will see that the talent base is there, and just like any NFL team, new talent will still need to be added in the offseason. TD is not the problem.  DQ is.

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2 hours ago, GhostofGritz said:

Sadly, I think Dimitroff will stay. I just got that vibe when the camera showed him and Blank talking together during Sunday's game. Just a gut feeling.

You sir are correct.  TD isn't going anywhere.

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17 minutes ago, Boise Falcon Fan said:

Saying that you think he is going to get fired is one thing, but it becomes click bait when you say 100%, like you actually have knowledge of the situation. 

Except that I explicitly said...

8 hours ago, Francis York Morgan said:

Not trying to act like I figured something big out with this proclamation about free agency...

Tbh it sounds less like you're trying to do others a service with my "clickbait" and more like you have a different viewpoint. Let's keep reading.

17 minutes ago, Boise Falcon Fan said:

Fact is, you don't know anything, and I would say it's better than 50% that he stays. Nobody on this site knows how much of an influence that AB has played.  AB says, go get some OL, and TD goes and did the best he could last offseason.  When AB says you will fix this OL NOW!, TD didn't have a choice. In a normal year, he may not have brought in both of those FA OL, and then turned around and drafted 2 first round OL. He did what the boss said, and bosses like it when you do what they say.  AB likes TD.

The other reason I think TD stays is that the team has shown flashes of being able to dominate NFL teams. I think AB will see that the talent base is there, and just like any NFL team, new talent will still need to be added in the offseason. TD is not the problem.  DQ is.

So nobody knows, but you do. And it's conveniently the opposite of what I think. Gotcha. Let's ignore the multiple people closer to the know saying AB is more irritated with TD.

And I've said multiple times I think DQ is gone too, so I don't know what strawman you're trying to hoist up.

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9 hours ago, Francis York Morgan said:

Why? Because we haven't heard anything about a single UFA on this team. With guys like Austin Hooper becoming available, why wouldn't they get a head start? I get the strong feeling they're waiting for the new GM (and likely HC, though that's marginally less certain) before making any big money decisions...especially with how cap strapped the team currently is. Too many ugly contracts to underperforming players.

The Sambrailo/Carpenter/Brown trifecta is truly a marvel in how to **** up an offseason's free agency. 10.5 mil to those three this year, and almost 18 mil next year (over 14m of it dead money)...and not a current quality starter among them. Can you believe it? And that's not even mentioning the Beasley situation. Did you know he's making almost as much as Za'Darius and Preston Smith put together this year? 

Not trying to act like I figured something big out with this proclamation about free agency...but for the Dimi haters, I think this about puts it to bed. All of his power has been taken away. All he was allowed to do lately is negotiate trades, and maybe he's working on scouting still. He won't be here next season, period.

We will all see how well you do on your 100% guarantees ?   Just because they you haven't heard anything does not  mean anything other than you are just a fan like we are. Wait,, I may be getting a call from Mr Blank!  I'll talk to you latter.. lol

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