Godzilla1985 6,658 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 12 hours ago, Falconsfan567 said: LOL!!! This message board is a freaking joke. Don't want Jim Caldwell but want Ron Rivera? WTF is wrong the people here? Caldwell >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rivera Jim Caldwell = 62-50 (Regular Season), 2-4 (Postseason) - 5 Winning Seasons out of 7 (4 Playoff Appearances) Ron Rivera = 76-63-1 (Regular Season), 3-4 (Postseason) - 3 Winning Seasons out of 9 (4 Playoff Appearances) Give me Jim Caldwell over Ron Rivera in a heartbeat. I'd gladly take Caldwell as coach and Dungy as GM in a heartbeat. I don’t want either Boise Falcon Fan 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
athell 31,639 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 Just now, Falconsfan567 said: Can you make one single post actually discussing the topic at hand? Seriously dude, you've yet to make one single reply to any actual facts and discussion I've posted. Instead you just keep right on attacking me. You need to go back and look at this thread and realize that you're the one in the wrong here, not me. I already have. Before you went on your Jim Caldwell white knighting super angry campaign. Also you are delusional if you are going to play the victim card here and claim I am attacking you...let's recap what you have said, shall we? Boy we've got lots of stupid people on here He's not my 1st choice but dude isn't a bad HC like the idiots I've seen saying Same idiots that somehow think Ron Rivera is a good HC Boise Falcon Fan 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Falconsfan567 35,212 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 1 minute ago, athell said: I already have. Before you went on your Jim Caldwell white knighting super angry campaign. Also you are delusional if you are going to play the victim card here and claim I am attacking you...let's recap what you have said, shall we? Boy we've got lots of stupid people on here He's not my 1st choice but dude isn't a bad HC like the idiots I've seen saying Same idiots that somehow think Ron Rivera is a good HC omg, no!! and who wants a .500 coach who's boring are hardly legit reasons and actual facts when I've disputed them and you never answered actual facts. If you don't want to be called stupid then don't say stupid stuff. Plain and simple as that. You're the one that suggested that someone peed in my cherrios and that I was PMSing. Those are actual personal attacks. Calling someone stupid isn't making things person. We all post and say stupid **** on here and deserve it when we get called stupid over it. The fact that hit a nerve with you and you had to resort to silly things like "who peed in your cherriors?" and "are you PMSing?" Yeah, very mature. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
athell 31,639 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 2 minutes ago, Falconsfan567 said: omg, no!! and who wants a .500 coach who's boring are hardly legit reasons and actual facts when I've disputed them and you never answered actual facts. If you don't want to be called stupid then don't say stupid stuff. Plain and simple as that. You're the one that suggested that someone peed in my cherrios and that I was PMSing. Those are actual personal attacks. Calling someone stupid isn't making things person. We all post and say stupid **** on here and deserve it when we get called stupid over it. The fact that hit a nerve with you and you had to resort to silly things like "who peed in your cherriors?" and "are you PMSing?" Yeah, very mature. lol, man I am honestly embarrassed for you and your behavior right now. This will be my last reply to you on this topic. You seriously need to chill. You hit no nerve. You have not upset me. You can claim all you want you have but no one would look at this exchange and walk away with anything other than you being triggered and me just thinking you look like a fool. Nothing more. Take a deep breath. Go for a walk. Getting this fired up over Jim Caldwell is a weird flex. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
blutarski 264 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 Honestly, both Jim Caldwell and Ron Rivera are the "same guy" as it relates to a body of work. I think Rivera's a better D Coordinator than Caldwell, but that is beside the point. I think the idea that Dungy would be worth anything as a GM is debatable...remember who the GM was in Tampa when Dungy was coach??? Rich McKay... and he drafted 5 Hall of Famers, along with the most pro bowl players during that tenure in the NFL. When he was fired and went to Indy, you know who the GM was.....Bill Polian, who is arguably one of the greatest talent evaluation minds we've seen. It could be argued that Dungy benefited from the great players the GM put in place for him to succeed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Spts1 6,658 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 Why not John Madden? you going back there... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CADirtyBird 449 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 1 hour ago, athell said: Getting this fired up over Jim Caldwell is a weird flex. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RING OF HONOR 16,463 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 **** Jim Caldwell and **** Tony Dungy...**** em all..... I bury those cockaroaches... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr.11 8,200 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 15 hours ago, ATL_666 said: No, to Jim Caldwell. He did nothing spectacular with Peyton Manning in his prime. Lol, only went 14-0 with Peyton Manning in 2009 (could have went 16-0 but decided to bench Manning for the final two games of the regular season since they locked up the No.1 seed). Agree with @Falconsfan567. Don't know why y'all are ****ting on Caldwell. He did a great job in Detroit and got no credit for it. Also took over as OC midseason during the Ravens' 2012 Super Bowl run. He's actually the one "retread" that I wouldn't mind seeing get another job, because quite honestly, I thought he was the fall guy in Detroit. Caldwell didn't deserve the axe--he did a much better job with worse talent than engineering wiz Matt Patricia is. Falconsfan567 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Falconsfan567 35,212 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 3 minutes ago, No.11 said: Lol, only went 14-0 with Peyton Manning in 2009 (could have went 16-0 but decided to bench Manning for the final two games of the regular season since they locked up the No.1 seed). Agree with @Falconsfan567. Don't know why y'all are ****ting on Caldwell. He did a great job in Detroit and got no credit for it. Also took over as OC midseason during the Ravens' 2012 Super Bowl run. He's actually the one "retread" that I wouldn't mind seeing get another job, because quite honestly, I thought he was the fall guy in Detroit. Caldwell didn't deserve the axe--he did a much better job with worse talent than engineering wiz Matt Patricia is. Exactly!! Thanks for bringing legit facts and discussion to this thread instead of silly pettiness. Caldwell has done a great job as NFL HC and you're right to mention he should get major credit for the Ravens winning the Super Bowl in 2012. I'd be thrilled to have him as HC of the Falcons. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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JetJones11 562 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 The more i think about it i think we need Jim Harbaugh i think he would change the culture here we can’t allow the Panthers to get him !! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ATL_666 528 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 2 hours ago, No.11 said: Lol, only went 14-0 with Peyton Manning in 2009 (could have went 16-0 but decided to bench Manning for the final two games of the regular season since they locked up the No.1 seed). Agree with @Falconsfan567. Don't know why y'all are ****ting on Caldwell. He did a great job in Detroit and got no credit for it. Also took over as OC midseason during the Ravens' 2012 Super Bowl run. He's actually the one "retread" that I wouldn't mind seeing get another job, because quite honestly, I thought he was the fall guy in Detroit. Caldwell didn't deserve the axe--he did a much better job with worse talent than engineering wiz Matt Patricia is. 14-2 with a loss to the Saints in the Super Bowl. He is the reason why our most hated rival has a championship and can throw it in our face forever. No to Jim Caldwell. Peyton Manning and that O.C., his name evades me, ran the show in Indy. Indy didn't have a prolific offense because of Jim Caldwell. That is crazy talk. Dan Quinn could have gotten that team to go 14-2. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ATLSlobberKnockers 8,239 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 Would rather have Singletary. And no I'm not.saying I want him Quote Link to post Share on other sites
1989Fan 15,489 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 this is gonna be a long fcking offseason... athell and RING OF HONOR 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Friendly Folk 1,480 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 8 hours ago, athell said: lol clearly... Go eat a snickers man. Get off his back. FF567 is a TATF legend. He talks about the Braves as well. I don’t always agree with his views and he flies off the rails a bit for my liking, but he’s a good guy. AUTiger7222 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GreggT 36 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 9 hours ago, Smiler11 said: I think we need to stop looking to the past and start looking at who the next generation of great coaches are. Agreed like the guy we let escape to the 49er's where thought Dan Quinn got us to the Super Bowl! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MoFalconsFan56 4,214 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 21 hours ago, Summerhill said: Caldwell would not be my first choice but I am sympathetic to what he just did in Detroit having now seen two seasons of Matt Patricia. if I’m going to be sold on Tony Dungy, it would have to be as team president. I don’t think he would want the grind of what it is to be GM but he is a great judge of people. The lions are gonna be 44 mill under the cap. They’re gonna acquire some talent this offseason and get their starting qb back I don’t think I’d write off Patricia just yet Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HEIST 5,256 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 Jesus christ. RING OF HONOR 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
athell 31,639 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 59 minutes ago, Skott Lee said: Get off his back. FF567 is a TATF legend. He talks about the Braves as well. I don’t always agree with his views and he flies off the rails a bit for my liking, but he’s a good guy. Never said he wasn't. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr.11 8,200 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 18 hours ago, ATL_666 said: 14-2 with a loss to the Saints in the Super Bowl. He is the reason why our most hated rival has a championship and can throw it in our face forever. No to Jim Caldwell. Peyton Manning and that O.C., his name evades me, ran the show in Indy. Indy didn't have a prolific offense because of Jim Caldwell. That is crazy talk. Dan Quinn could have gotten that team to go 14-2. Don't be silly. Caldwell didn't throw the pick 6, Peyton Manning did. Secondly, Indy's offense wasn't actually all that great in 2009. Very good, but not historically great. DQ could have gotten that team to go 14-2? We barely managed 11-5 while scoring 34 PPG in 2016. Indy's offense was averaging 28.1 PPG in 14 games with Peyton Manning. We averaged a TD more per game than they did, but they won 14 straight games. At least do your research before spouting off baseless assertions. Summerhill and AUTiger7222 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Boise Falcon Fan 4,027 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 On 12/10/2019 at 9:36 AM, athell said: lol clearly... Go eat a snickers man. On 12/10/2019 at 9:40 AM, Falconsfan567 said: Can you make one single post actually discussing the topic at hand? Seriously dude, you've yet to make one single reply to any actual facts and discussion I've posted. Instead you just keep right on attacking me. You need to go back and look at this thread and realize that you're the one in the wrong here, not me. Settle down Francis! He's not "attacking" you. He's saying that you seem a little worked up and could use a Snickers! athell 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ATL_666 528 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 3 hours ago, No.11 said: Don't be silly. Caldwell didn't throw the pick 6, Peyton Manning did. Secondly, Indy's offense wasn't actually all that great in 2009. Very good, but not historically great. DQ could have gotten that team to go 14-2? We barely managed 11-5 while scoring 34 PPG in 2016. Indy's offense was averaging 28.1 PPG in 14 games with Peyton Manning. We averaged a TD more per game than they did, but they won 14 straight games. At least do your research before spouting off baseless assertions. You are defending Jim Caldwell as a good coach. </end> Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr.11 8,200 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 7 minutes ago, ATL_666 said: You are defending Jim Caldwell as a good coach. </end> Congratulations on finally making an accurate statement. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
athell 31,639 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 8 minutes ago, No.11 said: Congratulations on finally making an accurate statement. How'd we get this fired up over Jim Caldwell? World is a funny place! Mr.11 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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