Cheap Talk Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 (edited) Ledbetter could not wait to publish this article, and to his defense he has won Round-1. Have a feeling McGary will have the last laugh though. https://www.ajc.com/blog/atlanta-falcons/cover-mcgary-leads-the-nfl-sacks-allowed-for-tackles/fE1kJvtzvgRFLau9CIZu6I/ Edited December 4, 2019 by Cheap Talk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.B.N. Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 Seems like another first round bust. Was never a fan of this pick FalconJim, GreggT, Flying Falcon and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FormerFan-RobertAP Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 Of all of the Ledbetter trash out there, this article really isn't too bad. He points out that McGary is last currently, but also includes that he's gone up against fierce competition, and has been learning. He also includes Koetter's positives. PokerSteve, Cheap Talk, FalconsIn2012 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kschreck Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 1 hour ago, D.B.N. said: Seems like another first round bust. Was never a fan of this pick He may or may not end up being a bust but it is far too early to determine now. To me, how he responds to this season will be very important. Is he a fighter that will take the season, learn and improve from it and use it to his advantage? Or will he allow it to send his career in the wrong direction? Hopefully he knows how to turn failure into fuel for success. NYCFalc, Emmitt, ATLSlobberKnockers and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gee-Q Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 24 minutes ago, D.B.N. said: Seems like another first round bust. Was never a fan of this pick That's weak... you can't deem someone a bust after 12 games... If that was the case, we would've cut Roddy White.... so there's that Drvillain, Rings, PokerSteve and 8 others 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis York Morgan Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 I'd be more worried about him if he hadn't shown such flashes throughout the season. His conditioning is just awful - which makes sense, given he didn't get the preseason/TC time he should have if not for his heart problems. Makes the rookie transition even harder. Give him time and run the ball more imho. kschreck, stingbee, PokerSteve and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isproab Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 (edited) He has time, but he has to be better. I think my biggest thing issues are 1.) we traded up for him 2.) he has a medical issue that may ultimately limit him. It just seems as if you reached for someone that isn't really a first round talent, but also has issues that may hold him back. So you didn't even get a deal because the medical dropped him and made him a more of a value if he works out. Its just a risk, a risk with capital that we can't seem to take. I hope it gets better, if not, oh well, same ole Falcons. Edited December 4, 2019 by isproab Chitown2ATL_Falcon, GreggT, FalconsIn2012 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
direwolf Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 The first game against the Saints gives me hope. He played well against a superb end, which shows ability. Experience and training will help. That said, he'll definitely need a good offseason's worth of work. ATLSlobberKnockers, Ergo Proxy and Chitown2ATL_Falcon 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRUNKuno Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 There’s this thing called a rookie wall Give it time. Yall had pitchforks out for Isaiah Oliver just 3 weeks ago. Emmitt, Chitown2ATL_Falcon, Cheap Talk and 7 others 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redjack Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 Never understood why he was so high on our board. It seems like we’re always evaluating guys a full round or two before everyone else. Chitown2ATL_Falcon 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconsIn2012 Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 His strength is in the run game. We pass 70% of the time. Drafting for the scheme you run is important. Tge good news is he has the athleticism to reach 2nd level blocks. None of our guards can reach those blocks on a consistent basis. Lindstrom can, Wes can. Let’s try it out Chitown2ATL_Falcon and PokerSteve 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marvinthemartian Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 I think he will be fine in time. He missed most of training camp and has played next to a turnstile at right guard. That being said, he does need to improve significantly. I am not convinced that he doesn’t end up at guard himself before it’s over with. He has the potential to be a mauler as a run blocker especially. PokerSteve and Charles Wright 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSalmon Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 4 minutes ago, marvinthemartian said: I think he will be fine in time. He missed most of training camp and has played next to a turnstile at right guard. That being said, he does need to improve significantly. I am not convinced that he doesn’t end up at guard himself before it’s over with. He has the potential to be a mauler as a run blocker especially. I agree, worst case he moved inside to G and he's a devastating run blocker there. He's a rookie and this stuff happens, and Jake Matthews has regressed as well, making me wonder if we don't have schematic issues. Actually, I know we have schematic issues FalconsIn2012, Charles Wright, PokerSteve and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boise Falcon Fan Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 All excuses aside, health, conditioning, work in progress, etc., it is extremely concerning that he leads all Tackles in sacks allowed. You'd hope for average, or lower third, but dead last? That is NOT GOOD! Chitown2ATL_Falcon, FalconsIn2012 and Tmodel66 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1989Fan Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 Bedwetter went after him for being socially awkward...he is disqualified from getting last laugh for being such a tool. it was well known he needed to be revamped in pass pro, and we are seeing that. I honestly was surprised he started this year. The silver lining is he is very inconsistent but has shown some glimpses of being a legit NFL starter. ATLSlobberKnockers, Chitown2ATL_Falcon, Charles Wright and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFanSince1970 Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 Way too early to call him a bust. He’s a freakin rookie. Most rooks get handled. That’s why it blows my mind that people want to tank for rookie saviors to come in and fill gaping Dimi holes on day one. Don’t be surprised if Lindstrom gets his as handed to him when he comes back. MoFalconsFan56, vel, *Old Pappy Falcon* and 5 others 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheap Talk Posted December 4, 2019 Author Share Posted December 4, 2019 1 hour ago, Gee-Q said: That's weak... you can't deem someone a bust after 12 games... If that was the case, we would've cut Roddy White.... so there's that Statistics of course do not always tell the whole story. McGary went into the season out of 'game shape', and never really caught-up to the rest of the NFL in my opinion. Saw him give-up most of his sacks in the 4th Quarter, when in my opinion, he would hit a brick wall almost every game. Francis York Morgan, vitaman and PokerSteve 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vel Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 When your offense is mostly comprised of 5-7 step drops with little threat of a running game and play action is non existent, you leave your OTs out to dry more often than not. Put McGary in a scheme that let's him move forward more than he has this year and he looks much better. A-TowN.-, kschreck, KRUNKuno and 6 others 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheap Talk Posted December 4, 2019 Author Share Posted December 4, 2019 1 hour ago, robertap said: Of all of the Ledbetter trash out there, this article really isn't too bad. He points out that McGary is last currently, but also includes that he's gone up against fierce competition, and has been learning. He also includes Koetter's positives. He took a lot of heat for that move back then, so he's going to be discreet and not come out and make a scene with this article. My question is should this particular stat on this particular player warrant press or even headlines? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtybird56 Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 FYI McGary is going to be good and for anyone curious no he’s never moving inside to guard Cheap Talk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kschreck Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 1 hour ago, KRUNKuno said: There’s this thing called a rookie wall Give it time. Yall had pitchforks out for Isaiah Oliver just 3 weeks ago. Nope, if he isn't doing well 3/4 of the way into his rookie year...clearly he's a bust! Ezekiel 25:17 and Cheap Talk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFanSince1969 Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 1 hour ago, RightInTwo said: Never understood why he was so high on our board. It seems like we’re always evaluating guys a full round or two before everyone else. Except every single draft site had him right where we took him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconsIn2012 Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 7 minutes ago, FalconFanSince1969 said: Except every single draft site had him right where we took him. Most had him in the 2-3 range Kaleb McGary, OT, Washington Height: 6-6. Weight: 317. Arm: 33.63. Hand: 10.25. 40 Time: 5.05. 10-Yd: 1.83. Three Cone: 7.66. Bench: 23. Vertical: 33.5. Broad: 9-3. Projected Round (2019): 2-3.4/24/19: McGary's run blocking is ahead of his pass protection, but he was solid for the Huskies. He has good size at the point of attack and decent technique. McGary accepted an invitation to play at the Senior Bowl and had a nice week. Team sources say that McGary's combine interview was disappointing and they have concerns about his football I.Q, but they believe that he could become a quality right tackle in the NFL. Most team sources were projecting him to the second or third round, although a few thought he might sneak into the end of the first round. ZoneOne01 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattM12 Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 way too early. Put enough good stuff on film for me to know he's our starting (and improved RT) next year. Cheap Talk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATL58 Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 2 hours ago, Gee-Q said: That's weak... you can't deem someone a bust after 12 games... If that was the case, we would've cut Roddy White.... so there's that ..... and would have fired Shanny after year 1 VTCrunkler, MoFalconsFan56 and ShmevinShmarris 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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