MY HIRE FOR 2020 ATLANTA FALCONS HEAD COACH

[FalconFanSince1970]

Wade Phillips. Born into the NFL. Daddy was an as beater. Dude is a certified NFL beast. Got plenty of what we need. Defense. Players love him and love to play for him. Yeah he's gettin old but he can still flat out lead young men. Blank should have kept him in 2004 instead of hiring Jimmy Mora. Can definitely run the 3-4 Smitty and Quinn tried to run. Been successful on two different teams as a head coach. Yeah folks we need to hire Wade and pair him with the best OC on the block and we will finally get some rest. Trust me.

[k-train]

Postseason HC record
Wade Phillips: 1-5 (.167)
Dan Quinn: 3-2 (.600)

No thanks, man.

[FalconsIn2012]

23 minutes ago, FalconFanSince1970 said:

Wade Phillips. Born into the NFL. Daddy was a beast. He is a beast. Got plenty of what we need. Defense. Players love him and love to play for him. Yeah he's gettin old but he can flat out lead young men. Blank should have kept him in 2004 instead of hiring Jimmy Mora. Can definitely run the 3-4 Smitty and Quinn wanted to run. Yeah folks hire Wade and get him the best OC on the block and we will finally get some rest. Trust me.

Quite possibly the most overlooked and tragically unappreciated coaches in NFL history.  But he is a DC.  Period.  Bring him in as DC...in a heartbeat.  Just not as a HC

Edit: I’d consider this

Carmichael Jr : Co-HC/OC

Wade Phillips: Co-HC/DC

[TXAintsHater]

Impeccable performance as a DC. But he's never translated that in his multiple opportunities as a HC.

Guy sucked as a HC in Buffalo. Did okay with his first three years with the Cowboys but that was largely off the coattails of Parcells, he inherited a talented, young roster and most of his assistants. By year 4 it was very clear he was the problem and Jerry Jones (yes, Jerry, who has NEVER fired a coach mid season before or after) fired him midway. Was interim HC for the Texans during Kubiak's health scare and lost every game.

[Rings]

He's 72 currently, has the 11th ranked defense with almost every player in LA being better than the same spot in ATL.  I think he is a great defensive mind overall, but I would prefer an offensive minded HC with a proven DC to create longevity as the league is promoting OC's a ton more than DC's over the last few years.

[JD dirtybird21]

@Vandy

[JD dirtybird21]

36 minutes ago, FalconFanSince1970 said:

Wade Phillips. Born into the NFL. Daddy was a beast. He is a beast. Got plenty of what we need. Defense. Players love him and love to play for him. Yeah he's gettin old but he can flat out lead young men. Blank should have kept him in 2004 instead of hiring Jimmy Mora. Can definitely run the 3-4 Smitty and Quinn wanted to run. Been successful as an HC a couple times. Yeah folks hire Wade and pair him the best OC on the block and we will finally get some rest. Trust me.

We do this, Beasley resurrects his career. I’d bet on it 

[FalconFanSince1970]

I hear yall but we need a man to come in here and right the ship. Not a rookie boy. Buddy could get it done. The offense is in place except OLine. He can coach up the sorry Dimi defensive players. Just look at the talent we had on the 2002 defense. Dam near got us to the NFCCG. Buddy took BUF and DAL to the playoffs twice as an HC in three year stinits. Yeah bring that mo fo home.

[Atlantafan21]

10 minutes ago, JD dirtybird21 said:

We do this, Beasley resurrects his career. I’d bet on it 

U forgot that Beasley has a 99% chance of not being back next year. 

[JD dirtybird21]

2 minutes ago, Atlantafan21 said:

U forgot that Beasley has a 99% chance of not being back next year. 

That isn’t true. He’d be pretty cheap. And if Wade was the HC or DC, he’d want him. Vic would get 13 sacks in Wade’s defense. He’s the perfect prototype pass rusher for his defense 

[Atlantafan21]

Just now, JD dirtybird21 said:

That isn’t true. He’d be pretty cheap. And if Wade was the HC or DC, he’d want him. Vic would get 13 sacks in Wade’s defense. He’s the perfect pass rusher physically for his defense 

If he’s cheap, he could be back. However, there might still be a team out there willing to bank on him recapturing his 2016 magic and pay him a decent sized contract. 

[JD dirtybird21]

2 minutes ago, Atlantafan21 said:

If he’s cheap, he could be back. However, there might still be a team out there willing to bank on him recapturing his 2016 magic and pay him a decent sized contract. 

You’re probably right. We are talking hypotheticals anyways. If Wade came here, I’d want Vic brought back. 

[k-train]

4 minutes ago, Atlantafan21 said:

If he’s cheap, he could be back. However, there might still be a team out there willing to bank on him recapturing his 2016 magic and pay him a decent sized contract. 

I think if that was the case someone would've made a trade when he was available.

[Atlantafan21]

1 minute ago, k-train said:

I think if that was the case someone would've made a trade when he was available.

I thought of that as well, but why trade assets if you think you can get him in free agency? That’s the only rationale I have for this at least. 

[k-train]

Just now, Atlantafan21 said:

I thought of that as well, but why trade assets if you think you can get him in free agency? That’s the only rationale I have for this at least. 

So you don't get into a bidding war & grossly overpay in FA or lose him to another team willing to outbid you.

[Atlantafan21]

Just now, k-train said:

So you don't get into a bidding war & grossly overpay in FA or lose him to another team willing to outbid you.

I guess we’ll have to see what happens. I think he does have at least a small market, but maybe he doesn’t and ends up like Shane Ray. Although I think he’ll get on a team unlike Ray. 

[JD dirtybird21]

7 minutes ago, Rings said:

To me it's an effort piece with him and always has been.  

Pressures since Beasley came into the league and NFL pressure rate rank.

2015: 27 - 65th
2016: 51 - 38th
2017: 27 - 82nd
2018: 25 - 131st
2019: 16 - 143rd

Beasley is also asked to do things that he simply is not built to do. Wade Phillips is all about relentless pass rushing. He instills that behavior in his players. Go back and look at our 2002 defense. Guys like Sam Rogers, Matt Stewart, Chris Draft, and Brady Smith got to the quarterback. Beasley is a more talented pass rusher than any of those guys. It’s all about being set up for success and playing to their strengths. Players gain confidence that way. They play harder too.

[Francis York Morgan]

Also-****in-lutely not. 

[Rings]

21 minutes ago, JD dirtybird21 said:

We do this, Beasley resurrects his career. I’d bet on it 

To me it's an effort piece with him and always has been.  

Pressures since Beasley came into the league and NFL pressure rate rank.

2015: 42 - 83rd
2016: 56 - 27th
2017: 28 - 83rd
2018: 33 - 143rd
2019: 26 - 92nd

[k-train]

2 minutes ago, Atlantafan21 said:

I guess we’ll have to see what happens. I think he does have at least a small market, but maybe he doesn’t and ends up like Shane Ray. Although I think he’ll get on a team unlike Ray. 

To start the year he was invisible & I think that really hurt whatever value he might've had. He's been serviceable & gotten a few sacks after the trade deadline though, so perhaps if he get's a few more & can finish w/ something like 6-8 sacks for the season, he'll find a small market.

[Rings]

5 minutes ago, JD dirtybird21 said:

Beasley is also asked to do things that he simply is not built to do. Wade Phillips is all about relentless pass rushing. He instills that behavior in his players. Go back and look at our 2002 defense. Guys like Sam Rogers, Matt Stewart, Chris Draft, and Brady Smith got to the quarterback. Beasley is a more talented pass rusher than any of those guys. It’s all about being set up for success and playing to their strengths. Players gain confidence that way. 

The first post I deleted because i had pulled rushes from only the left side of the line vs overall.  But those numbers are only on his pass rushes, not him dropping into coverage or running plays.  I have more issues with his effort, hand usage, how he gives up if his first move doesn't work.  Takk has outplayed him in every way this year and he still has been extremely underwhelming.

[JD dirtybird21]

Just now, Rings said:

The first post I deleted because i had pulled rushes from only the left side of the line vs overall.  But those numbers are only on his pass rushes, not him dropping into coverage or running plays.

Point is, Vic is a pass rusher. He’s not a 3 down 4-3 lineman, and he’s not a run stopper. And he’s certainly not a cover LB. He’s a 3rd down pass rusher, and a QB spy. He’s never been utilized 100% to his strengths under Dan Quinn outside of 2016

[kiwifalcon]

1 hour ago, FalconFanSince1970 said:

Wade Phillips. Born into the NFL. Daddy was an as beater. He's a beast too. Got plenty of what we need. Defense. Players love him and love to play for him. Yeah he's gettin old but he can flat out lead young men. Blank should have kept him in 2004 instead of hiring Jimmy Mora. Can definitely run the 3-4 Smitty and Quinn wanted to run. Been successful on two different teams as an HC. Yeah folks hire Wade and pair him with the best OC on the block and we will finally get some rest. Trust me.

More importantly who ya got as the GM or do you see AB keeping TD.

I’m with you with an experienced HC though.

[FalconFanSince1970]

20 minutes ago, kiwifalcon said:

More importantly who ya got as the GM or do you see AB keeping TD.

I’m with you with an experienced HC though.

If I were Blank I'd gut it. Would have pulled the trigger a couple weeks ago. We need rest bro.

[Rings]

10 minutes ago, FalconFanSince1970 said:

If I were Blank I'd gut it. Would have pulled the trigger a couple weeks ago. We need rest bro.

Up and coming coaches don't go to franchises that pull the trigger mid season on a knee jerk reaction.  The biggest crap show in football, the Redskins, are the only one to do so this year.  Up and coming coaches want stability.  Also, what do we have to gain from cutting ties now?  No one wants to see Koetter or Mularky running the show.  We will be able to hire a coach the same day the Redskins will who cut their coach months ago.