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2019 SEC Championship: #4 Georgia vs #2 LSU

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Ok I realize we are still a little more than a couple weeks away from this game, but I'm seeing a good bit of talk about this matchup already in other threads so I thought we might be ready to go ahead and get this one going. I've posted some thoughts on this game elsewhere but we're sure to go over it all again. I want to see the Dawgs offense play better but I feel pretty good about this UGA team beating this LSU team.

UGA still has to play Texas A&M at home and then travel for Georgia Tech, so the Dawgs will be playing in Atlanta two weeks in a row... although the first week will be played on the UGA-Atlanta practice field.

LSU still has Arkansas and Texas A&M at home to finish the season, so they have not quite clinched the division but it would be a complete shock if they don't do so against Arkansas.

 

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See this game as either 20-17 UGA or a 35-23 LSU. 

I don't trust the offense to do much. We need to keep the defense aggressive all game and not play soft in the end like against Auburn.

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Georgia's going to need to win TOP and limit LSU's possessions. Your best shot is to slow LSU down, not stop them. Auburn is the only team that was actually able to pull off a slow down but they still allowed over 500 yards, lost TOP, and allowed several possessions. I don't think that would be a winning formula.

The offense is probably going to have to draw up at least 5 TDs either way though.

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13 hours ago, Ovie_Lover said:

See this game as either 20-17 UGA or a 35-23 LSU. 

I don't trust the offense to do much. We need to keep the defense aggressive all game and not play soft in the end like against Auburn.

After losing two SECCG where Kirby tried to kill the clock with a lead - and lost both games,  I hope he has learned his lesson there.

Gotta go “full tilt” on offense and defense for entire 60 minutes- stay aggressive.

Fortune favors the bold!

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18 minutes ago, g-dawg said:

After losing two SECCG where Kirby tried to kill the clock with a lead - and lost both games,  I hope he has learned his lesson there.

Gotta go “full tilt” on offense and defense for entire 60 minutes- stay aggressive.

Fortune favors the bold!

2 SECCG

 

hmmm

do you mean 

1 SECCG and 1 NCG both against Bama

believe we won one of the 2 SECCG played in with Kirby

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3 hours ago, VoiceofReason95 said:

Georgia's going to need to win TOP and limit LSU's possessions. Your best shot is to slow LSU down, not stop them. Auburn is the only team that was actually able to pull off a slow down but they still allowed over 500 yards, lost TOP, and allowed several possessions. I don't think that would be a winning formula.

The offense is probably going to have to draw up at least 5 TDs either way though.

If we have too many 3 and outs, it's going to be very hard to over come with the LSU offense clicking. Winning TOP means not going three and out, we just can't let the defense stay on the field that long. Offense doesn't have to score every time but has to be able to eat up valuable minutes off the clock. 

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I know our d gets a lot of respect but we don’t cover well imo, if we don’t spy/pressure burrow they DO put up 35+ on us.. we can score on them for sure imo, but we have to force the issue on d. Be aggressive 

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If Campbell can get his legs back I trust Georgia's boundary corners. Stokes hasn't had the expected season of him but coverage by them is not really a weakness.

What feels like a repeating story is the slot corner has been an entirely different story at times and attacked a ton in the recent past and in the now. McGhee doesn't play this season much at all, but Webb has and he's a poor coverage guy. Florida attacked him a lot when they tried to come back futilely. I told an LSU fan this in a chat where most of us are friendly to each other (especially with football), and he said they use the slot a lot. 

Tyrique Stevenson is playing more lately though, and that might be the code for LSU's slot/middle of the field (I think it's Chase that is their slot), but because of the kind of offense they play now, there's not much choice. Stokes, Daniels, Campbell, Webb, Stevenson, Wilson, and the safeties are all going to be needed. And yes, my suspicion is we will eventually see Webb get attacked.

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If Georgia's recent post season history tells you anything, if Georgia jumps out to a big lead...  they gonna lose.  If LSU jumps out to a big lead,  Georgia has a chance...

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12 minutes ago, Billy Ocean said:

 

meanwhile, at UGA..

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Brady needs to come to Athens as OC.  Make him the highest paid assistant in college football

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10 minutes ago, FalconsIn2012 said:

Brady needs to come to Athens as OC.  Make him the highest paid assistant in college football

LSU just signed him to a huge contract.

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There are other pro assistants out there that would be great additions. I'd kill for someone from that Shannahan/McVay/LaFleur tree.

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12 minutes ago, Porter Osborne Jr said:

LSU just signed him to a huge contract.

I didn’t think it was done yet.  They were saying 1.5 million.  We could offer 2.5 million as OC

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Brady's next move is likely to be going back to the NFL. They are flipping his and Ensminger's roles. He will be the OC and Ensminger will be more of an analyst/secondary role and he ain't going to leave for a lateral move.

That said, since the second bye, a lot more of this outside of Auburn has been Fromm, and Fromm alone than Coley. Though some of it can be directed at the downgrade in coaching for QBs still as well with him having poor mechanics/footwork a lot more than he was putting out previously (and one case likely costed a TD period in recent weeks), and him seemingly getting more and more in his head. But I just think the offensive coaching room was better recently even if Georgia still wasn't putting out one of the sexier offenses.

Jim Chaney was the Xs and Os guy, and while I wasn't too excited about him as an OC, he does get a lot out of his QBs in his history. Jay Johnson set offensive records at Louisiana Lafayette, and he was the guy that helped implement a very effective zone run scheme with RPOs as an analyst. James Coley at least to me from what I know is just purely a great recruiter, and the RAH RAH guy that gets players pumped up to play for him.

This year right now you have the rah rah guy, Shawn Watson instead of Jay Johnson, whose last good season with offenses was when Teddy Bridgewater was still playing college football, and Todd Hartley, who might be a good recruiter but hasn't ever had a hand in any offense outside of coaching TEs.

If I'm honest, the offensive end looks very similar to the mistakes that Nick Saban made to counter Kirby's recruiting. Saban hired recruiting specialists to counter him at first and it worked in the recruiting world, but might very well have costed him a National Title last year.

I don't think Kirby can keep the staff as is. At the minimum, he needs to send Watson packing after this year. I think putting Bobo on staff in a support role to work with Fromm would help (this is assuming he's fired, but it looks likely, it's also assuming that he wants the step back, which he might for a while to focus on his health). If not Bobo, I'd turn to the NFL like LSU did before this season and pluck another young assistant that has learned under an offensive mastermind.

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46 minutes ago, Billy Ocean said:

This is like that one season when Blair Walsh couldn’t get right. Maybe some girl broke Fromm’s heart.

I’ve had the same thought. It’s not just the coaching changes, he is fundamentally worse in a way that only happens when you’ve lost interest and you’re just going through the motions. Maybe he’s burnt out. I really don’t know.

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30 minutes ago, Carter said:

I’ve had the same thought. It’s not just the coaching changes, he is fundamentally worse in a way that only happens when you’ve lost interest and you’re just going through the motions. Maybe he’s burnt out. I really don’t know.

Maybe he’s lost interest because he’s too smart for football. I think NFL scouts had those concerns about Josh Rosen and that FSU defensive back who was a Rhodes scholar.

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Could Fromm feel that he doesn’t feel threatened of someone else taking over as a starter. Freshman year Eason could have and last year Fields could have, but this year there’s no one that’s putting that pressure on him 

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Defense - stick Stokes on Chase with no help. Keep no. 22 under control, he opens up their offense. Generate pressure with blitzes, front 4, coverage sacks, etc. 

Offense - probably a lost cause 11 games in. Maybe they need to over simplify it for the struggling receivers. Give Fromm hot reads instead of going through all his progressions which is pointless as no receiver gets open consistently, and he doesn't even throw it to the back open in the flats. 

 

 

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