g-dawg Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 YES, I am making this Falcons related. Falcons don’t need a QB anytime soon but no one is drafting this college phenom to play anytime soon. How far will he fall in the draft? I don’t see 1st round at all. Will Tua be selected in 2nd round? I don’t necessarily think he will be selected there either - he’s not likely to play at all in 2020. NFL teams desperate for a starting QB immediately aren’t likely to take him. At some point the risk/reward see-saw balances out. If Falcons drafted Tua they would have him under contract for 4 years and maybe he could backup Matty Ice for 3 of those years. Supreme talent (before this injury). At some point the juice might be worth the squeeze. Personally I wouldn’t consider Tua for Falcons in the first two rounds(first 3 picks) and wouldn’t want to take him with that early to mid 3rd rounder - but I might take him there. I expect this thread to go off like a turd in the punch bowl but someone at some point was gonna start this thread so decided to pre-empt. Anotjetr argument against Tua would be even if he made full recovery and awesome again - you would always be worried about ankle injuries or loss of mobility. On the plus side, you get the Matty Ice replacement on the cheap at a time 4 years from now when Matt might be in decline. What say you? Hashbrown3, ChickenBiscuit and Godzilla1985 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geneaut Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 At this point I hope Tua joins NASA and flies to the moon. I’m tired of Tua threads. ATLSlobberKnockers, Googlywoogly, mjqvi and 21 others 24 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hashbrown3 Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 Depends on how far he drops yo... Great deal in the 3rd. He's a great kid, I'm in. mikeg272 and g-dawg 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g-dawg Posted November 19, 2019 Author Share Posted November 19, 2019 2 minutes ago, Geneaut said: At this point I hope Tua joins NASA and flies to the moon. I’m tired of Tua threads. And yet, you clicked on the thread and felt the need to come up with a sarcastic comment. Hmmmmm.... Diggable Birds, Sidecar Falcon, Akod2017 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFanSince1970 Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 Stop mockin and always go BPA when we're on the clock. No matter what round, need or position. Even if we're stacked at that position. Draft like that every year and get deep. Stop trying to fill Dimi holes with rookie saviours. With that said, I don't think dude will drop to our third. Flying Falcon, PeytonMannings Forehead, XXVIII-III and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g-dawg Posted November 19, 2019 Author Share Posted November 19, 2019 Just now, FalconFanSince1970 said: Stop mockin and always go BPA when we're on the clock. No matter what round, need or position. Even if we're stacked at that position. Draft like that every year and get deep. Stop trying to fill Dimi holes with rookie saviours. With that said, I don't think dude will drop to our third. Wow. You do realize you contradicted your own comments above in the same paragraph. Tua isn’t a rookie savior - he likely will have to medically redshirt his rookie year. Vandy, Ovie_Lover, ATLSlobberKnockers and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLSlobberKnockers Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 10 minutes ago, g-dawg said: YES, I am making this Falcons related. Falcons don’t need a QB anytime soon but no one is drafting this college phenom to play anytime soon. How far will he fall in the draft? I don’t see 1st round at all. Will Tua be selected in 2nd round? I don’t necessarily think he will be selected there either - he’s not likely to play at all in 2020. NFL teams desperate for a starting QB immediately aren’t likely to take him. At some point the risk/reward see-saw balances out. If Falcons drafted Tua they would have him under contract for 4 years and maybe he could backup Matty Ice for 3 of those years. Supreme talent (before this injury). At some point the juice might be worth the squeeze. Personally I wouldn’t consider Tua for Falcons in the first two rounds(first 3 picks) and wouldn’t want to take him with that early to mid 3rd rounder - but I might take him there. I expect this thread to go off like a turd in the punch bowl but someone at some point was gonna start this thread so decided to pre-empt. Anotjetr argument against Tua would be even if he made full recovery and awesome again - you would always be worried about ankle injuries or loss of mobility. On the plus side, you get the Matty Ice replacement on the cheap at a time 4 years from now when Matt might be in decline. What say you? Rnd 4. There's a good.chance he will never be the same poutlipper, papachaz and g-dawg 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLSlobberKnockers Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 5 minutes ago, FalconFanSince1970 said: Stop mockin and always go BPA when we're on the clock. No matter what round, need or position. Even if we're stacked at that position. Draft like that every year and get deep. Stop trying to fill Dimi holes with rookie saviours. With that said, I don't think dude will drop to our third. No one will.ever.agree what the BPA is outside the top.5 Sidecar Falcon and g-dawg 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g-dawg Posted November 19, 2019 Author Share Posted November 19, 2019 Just now, ATLSlobberKnockers said: Rnd 4. There's a good.chance he will never be the same Yeah, I would absolutely make that pick if Tua fell to Rd 4. My guess would be if he fell to Day 3, there would be a lot of trade up action to get to the first pick of Round 4. My guess is he goes somewhere in Round 3 to some team - someone will take the chance at that point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mescalito Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 (edited) If he is there when we're on the clock for our 2nd pick of round 2 I'd do it in a heartbeat. ****, I'd maybe do it with our first 2nd round pick. Of course this all depends on how his recovery goes. Edited November 19, 2019 by Mescalito Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFanSince1970 Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 2 minutes ago, ATLSlobberKnockers said: No one will.ever.agree what the BPA is outside the top.5 Herein lies the problem. Talent evaluators. Skeetbird 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFanSince1970 Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 7 minutes ago, g-dawg said: Wow. You do realize you contradicted your own comments above in the same paragraph. Tua isn’t a rookie savior - he likely will have to medically redshirt his rookie year. Wow. You do realize your third round pipe dream is gonna look asinine when buddy goes in the first or second right? Flying Falcon and TNFalcon1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPPT1974 Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 For now we should worry about his health. As this injury he had over on Saturday is the same way Bo Jackson had his career ruined. papachaz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLSlobberKnockers Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 7 minutes ago, FalconFanSince1970 said: Herein lies the problem. Talent evaluators. 10 minutes ago, g-dawg said: Yeah, I would absolutely make that pick if Tua fell to Rd 4. My guess would be if he fell to Day 3, there would be a lot of trade up action to get to the first pick of Round 4. My guess is he goes somewhere in Round 3 to some team - someone will take the chance at that point. Yeah I think he goes 65-72. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrthoPTSD Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 15 minutes ago, g-dawg said: and wouldn’t want to take him with that early to mid 3rd rounder - but I might take him there. What a talent, but made of glass besides unfortunate and unlikely injury for this sport. He has toughed out several injury to play at a high level but hip surgery? Did it pop out? Head of femur fracture? Both? Implants/ hardware? Yeesh, NFL MDs will steer clear with recommendation of thumbs down. Good question, when do you gamble on lottery with so few choices? 4-5th? NE with one of their numerous early rounders? Miami could for sure.. g-dawg and Charles Wright 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sun Tzu 7 Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 54 minutes ago, FalconFanSince1970 said: Stop mockin and always go BPA when we're on the clock. No matter what round, need or position. Even if we're stacked at that position. Draft like that every year and get deep. Stop trying to fill Dimi holes with rookie saviours. With that said, I don't think dude will drop to our third. I love that idea. Then you can have 2 QBs and 4 kickers depending on how your team grades players. Championship! Sidecar Falcon, papachaz, g-dawg and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrews31cain21 Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 I bet he goes back to play his Senior year.. to try and re-establish himself as a first round pick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spts1 Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 Buck belue is available... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geaux_Falcons Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 I think it depends on what the severity of his hip is and if he would ever be able really play again. If he can actually recover, Miami might use their last pick in the first and just sit on him. ATLSlobberKnockers 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby.Digital Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 I would take Tua in the 2nd without hesitation. I think if healthy (big if I know) hes a legit franchise QB. If Tua looks like he could be the guy then we could trade Matt in year 3 and save ourselves around 20 million to use on other positions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vandy Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 On 11/18/2019 at 9:22 PM, g-dawg said: Wow. You do realize you contradicted your own comments above in the same paragraph. Tua isn’t a rookie savior - he likely will have to medically redshirt his rookie year. I think he was agreeing with you without even realizing it.... If drafting a QB, I would prefer Fromm in Rd 3 over injury-prone Tua in Rd 2. I liked Jake better even before Tua broke down this season. ATLSlobberKnockers, MSalmon and papachaz 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconsFanSince194eva Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 I feel like Tua is going to the Pats. Sit behind Brady for 3-5 years then ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLSlobberKnockers Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 8 minutes ago, Vandy said: I think he was agreeing with you without even realizing it.... If drafting a QB in Rd 3-4, I would prefer Fromm over injury-prone Tua. I liked Jake better even before Tua broke down this season. I agree. I like.Fromm better as well. Tua is just too injury prone. Hes not going to hold up through a 16 game season. Vandy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thanat0s Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 I personally don’t believe he’s going to be a cornerstone franchise QB for a team long term. Having said that, teams get desperate for QBs when they need one, and he’s one of the shiniest hood ornaments out there, surgery or no. He won’t last past the 10th pick, IMO. TNFalcon1 and papachaz 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconsFanSince194eva Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 Just now, ATLSlobberKnockers said: I agree. I like.Fromm better as well. Tua is just too injury prone. Hes not going to hold up through a 16 game season. Fromm is trash. Please don’t let him near the Falcons. Spts1 and Flying Falcon 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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