You have to bring Quinn back

[FalconsIn2012 21,609]

10 hours ago, Cole World said:

Because the goal is to win Super bowls and him missing out on the playoffs doesn’t help his cause. Can’t continue to give Blank excuses for why you can’t get the job done.

Blank was part of the problem this year.  In order to make these changes to playcalling and Morris to DB, Quinn had to sell Blank on it.  That’s an odd thing for a HC.  Shows Blank has had his hands in the cookie jar

[isproab 1,641]

Season isn't over yet.  Like I said yesterday, this is a team I can be proud of.  If they end up winning 8 or 9 games, I would be shocked based off of where we were during the first half of the season prior to the bye.  I think on one hand, you have to give Quinn credit for making a switch.  On the other hand, you have to hold him accountable for letting something that wasn't working continue to the point where you were all but eliminated from the playoffs.  

Blank will have to make the decision.  I could see letting him go, but IF a complete turnaround it completed, I think you would be wise to let it play out.  He will at least have earned that in my book. Experience is the best teacher.  You grow the most through adversity. 

[Osiruz 8,145]

11 hours ago, atljbo said:

Naw I'm good... I can't fall for this again

Same same..hes had 5 seasons that's half a decade. Just because he turns it on the last half of the season when it's too late doesnt mean we should stick with the formula. I'd be ok with Raheem Morris as HC provided he can partner up with a good wco OC.

[atljbo 19,199]

18 minutes ago, Osiruz said:

Same same..hes had 5 seasons that's half a decade. Just because he turns it on the last half of the season when it's too late doesnt mean we should stick with the formula. I'd be ok with Raheem Morris as HC provided he can partner up with a good wco OC.

Naw I'm good on that too.... 

 

Again these weeks make me even more disappointed because this is the team we was suppose to be.

 

I would be OK if the HC kept morris on as the DC.... I would like that but I don't think we need morris as the HC ... just let him run the D

 

I want to get a good young offensive mind or Kubiak at HC... With a new GM

[athell 24,444]

4 hours ago, Butudontseeme™ said:

I agree. But TD has lost his luster to me and I think a handful of his moves are keeping the team afloat and some of his inadequacies are a burden. 
 

As far as the first half play, Quinn deserves blame but I feel the players were absolutely not playing up to their potential either, partly just looking lost in a way that they shouldn’t have as pros. 

Which also points to the head coach...

[athell 24,444]

4 hours ago, FalconsIn2012 said:

Blank was part of the problem this year.  In order to make these changes to playcalling and Morris to DB, Quinn had to sell Blank on it.  That’s an odd thing for a HC.  Shows Blank has had his hands in the cookie jar

You got a source on this?

[Romfal 10,491]

I'd slow my roll just a bit, if we go back to being ****** the last 5 weeks unless its 'planed tanking' you probably still fire him

[FalconsIn2012 21,609]

23 minutes ago, athell said:

You got a source on this?

Change was inevitable, particularly after team owner Arthur Blank held an impromptu news conference following a loss to the Seattle Seahawksin Week 8 and said every aspect of the coaching staff would be evaluated, including Quinn. Blank also said at the time he had no immediate plans to cut ties with Quinn despite a thunderous outcry from disgruntled fans.

Quinn had to sell Blank on altering some aspect of his program in hopes of triggering a spark. Quinn moved Morris back to defense, moved running backs coach Dave Brock to wide receivers in place of Morris and moved assistant Bernie Parmalee to running backs coach. There were no notable personnel changes among the players during practice.

When asked Wednesday how Blank received the news of Morris being reassigned, Quinn didn't answer directly.

"[Blank] said it well: 'You've got a lot of smart people there, and utilize every resource that you have,'” Quinn said. "Raheem and I obviously have been talking about that and the fact that this was the best thing to do for the team.”

Quinn revealed how Morris essentially expected the move, knowing how close the two are, dating to when Quinn coached the defensive line at Hofstra University when Morris was a safety.

"It doesn't affect just him,” Quinn said of Morris' switch. "There's a lot of moving parts that go into it. ... But having his energy to bring over to the defensive side -- we're just a few days into it -- but I thought the players did a good job of adapting to that, and the coaches as well. So it's been a good start.”

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.espn.com/blog/atlanta-falcons/post/_/id/34757/falcons-have-nothing-to-lose-in-coaching-staff-shakeup%3fplatform=amp

[athell 24,444]

12 minutes ago, FalconsIn2012 said:

Change was inevitable, particularly after team owner Arthur Blank held an impromptu news conference following a loss to the Seattle Seahawksin Week 8 and said every aspect of the coaching staff would be evaluated, including Quinn. Blank also said at the time he had no immediate plans to cut ties with Quinn despite a thunderous outcry from disgruntled fans.

Quinn had to sell Blank on altering some aspect of his program in hopes of triggering a spark. Quinn moved Morris back to defense, moved running backs coach Dave Brock to wide receivers in place of Morris and moved assistant Bernie Parmalee to running backs coach. There were no notable personnel changes among the players during practice.

When asked Wednesday how Blank received the news of Morris being reassigned, Quinn didn't answer directly.

"[Blank] said it well: 'You've got a lot of smart people there, and utilize every resource that you have,'” Quinn said. "Raheem and I obviously have been talking about that and the fact that this was the best thing to do for the team.”

Quinn revealed how Morris essentially expected the move, knowing how close the two are, dating to when Quinn coached the defensive line at Hofstra University when Morris was a safety.

"It doesn't affect just him,” Quinn said of Morris' switch. "There's a lot of moving parts that go into it. ... But having his energy to bring over to the defensive side -- we're just a few days into it -- but I thought the players did a good job of adapting to that, and the coaches as well. So it's been a good start.”

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.espn.com/blog/atlanta-falcons/post/_/id/34757/falcons-have-nothing-to-lose-in-coaching-staff-shakeup%3fplatform=amp

Thanks.

Can't say I blame Blank though.  He is paying Quinn a lot of money to be "The Guy" so I can understand the pause when "The Guy" says "I think I need to take on less...".

[Osiruz 8,145]

[FalconsIn2012 21,609]

2 minutes ago, athell said:

Thanks.

Can't say I blame Blank though.  He is paying Quinn a lot of money to be "The Guy" so I can understand the pause when "The Guy" says "I think I need to take on less...".

This article is why I think Blank directed Quinn to be DC this year

[athell 24,444]

Just now, FalconsIn2012 said:

This article is why I think Blank directed Quinn to be DC this year

?

It was written in November.

[FalconsIn2012 21,609]

9 minutes ago, athell said:

?

It was written in November.

I’m talking about him having to sell the change to Blank.  Sounds like he was overriding what Blank wanted.

[athell 24,444]

38 minutes ago, FalconsIn2012 said:

I’m talking about him having to sell the change to Blank.  Sounds like he was overriding what Blank wanted.

Maybe...it's pretty vague.  Could have been a number of things.  

[izibit74 62]

22 hours ago, Spts1 said:

Today proved that last week wasn't a fluke game.  Quinn made the right moves by letting Morris and Ulbrich run the defense.  Koetter even doing things here and there...    Seriously,  you don't mess with whats not broken ( should have learned from getting rid of Sark and Manuel last season).  You need the cohesion to stay together when its working.    I would have liked Chase Young or Jeff Okudah but the Falcons are gonna win their way into the middle of the first round.  ( doesn't rule out trading up ).   They still should look at drafting a quarterback for the future and either trade up or best player available this coming draft.  I'm convinced the coaches need to stay...

Sign Kap as a backup. Draft tua. We could. Get him cheap since he is hurt.

[Butudontseeme™ 9,225]

4 hours ago, athell said:

Which also points to the head coach...

Yes, partly... but you can see in several of Brian Baldingers breakdowns of our defense, that no matter what scheme they were playing, our guys, particularly secondary, were making mistakes that were 100% on the player. 
 

Not absolving Quinn from responsibility, but anyone that’s ever been in a position of leadership of a team knows there are instances where you can’t coach guys out of a rut. 
 

Add onto that Julio, Grady and other team leaders calling out player performance on the sly, I just feel like the Jimmies and Joes had a large hand in how poor we looked on defense. 

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Just now, Butudontseeme™ said:

Yes, partly... but you can see in several of Brian Baldingers breakdowns of our defense, that no matter what scheme they were playing, our guys, particularly secondary, were making mistakes that were 100% on the player. 
 

Not absolving Quinn from responsibility, but anyone that’s ever been in a position of leadership of a team knows there are instances where you can’t coach guys out of a rut. 
 

Add onto that Julio, Grady and other team leaders calling out player performance on the sly, I just feel like the Jimmies and Joes had a large hand in how poor we looked on defense. 

I'm just pissed man, ignore me

[Butudontseeme™ 9,225]

1 minute ago, athell said:

I'm just pissed man, ignore me

Me too bro. Pissed for plenty of reasons. Pissed at DQ, TD, Players, Fans, Matt Bryant (cause you know we could be 5-5 if we had made like 2 kicks between Seattle and Arizona). 
 

We’ve (very) obviously pissed away a good season and there’s plenty of blame to go around. 

[Rise 636]

Beasley, Campbell, Crawford, and Clayborn are gone (probably)..

What then?

 

When Smith (and "T.D.") did no re-sign Abraham, the next season was worse..,. 

"His guys" may not be here (especially on the D-Line).

 

[RubberDucky 4,603]

4 hours ago, athell said:

Thanks.

Can't say I blame Blank though.  He is paying Quinn a lot of money to be "The Guy" so I can understand the pause when "The Guy" says "I think I need to take on less...".

If that's the case, then Blank is a problem.

Head Coach, DC, Defensive Playcaller and D-line specialist is a lot to take on for anyone. How many Successful HC's have also been defensive playcallers? Rivera is the only one I know of, and his success has been sporadic at best.

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42 minutes ago, RubberDucky said:

If that's the case, then Blank is a problem.

Head Coach, DC, Defensive Playcaller and D-line specialist is a lot to take on for anyone. How many Successful HC's have also been defensive playcallers? Rivera is the only one I know of, and his success has been sporadic at best.

We don't know whose idea that was though.  For all we know Quinn approached Blank and was all "I am taking over this defense.  I am going to turn this thing around." and Blank was all "ok then".

I mean I agree with you, it's too much...but still a lot we don't know about it.

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On 11/17/2019 at 4:12 PM, Spts1 said:

Today proved that last week wasn't a fluke game.  Quinn made the right moves by letting Morris and Ulbrich run the defense.  Koetter even doing things here and there...    Seriously,  you don't mess with whats not broken ( should have learned from getting rid of Sark and Manuel last season).  You need the cohesion to stay together when its working.    I would have liked Chase Young or Jeff Okudah but the Falcons are gonna win their way into the middle of the first round.  ( doesn't rule out trading up ).   They still should look at drafting a quarterback for the future and either trade up or best player available this coming draft.  I'm convinced the coaches need to stay...

No we don't lol.

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1 hour ago, Butudontseeme™ said:

Me too bro. Pissed for plenty of reasons. Pissed at DQ, TD, Players, Fans, Matt Bryant (cause you know we could be 5-5 if we had made like 2 kicks between Seattle and Arizona). 
 

We’ve (very) obviously pissed away a good season and there’s plenty of blame to go around. 

**** right Flair! I wish you'd put the figure 4 on mr. clean.

[Sun Tzu 7 12,112]

On 11/17/2019 at 1:12 PM, Spts1 said:

Today proved that last week wasn't a fluke game.  Quinn made the right moves by letting Morris and Ulbrich run the defense.  Koetter even doing things here and there...    Seriously,  you don't mess with whats not broken ( should have learned from getting rid of Sark and Manuel last season).  You need the cohesion to stay together when its working.    I would have liked Chase Young or Jeff Okudah but the Falcons are gonna win their way into the middle of the first round.  ( doesn't rule out trading up ).   They still should look at drafting a quarterback for the future and either trade up or best player available this coming draft.  I'm convinced the coaches need to stay...

So did today change your mind?

[Spts1 4,732]

10 minutes ago, Sun Tzu 7 said:

So did today change your mind?

Yeah. He got to go.  A good coach doesn't have a up and down team.  Quinn has to go...