PapaJoe 3,233 Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 3 hours ago, TheTrue7 said: That TD to Blaylock looked pretty good. ummm... that pass to Blaylock was a deep pass. In the original post I clearly stated that "middle of the field," in the context of which I speak, is the area between the numbers and from LOS to 25 yards downfield. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Carter 24,573 Posted November 18, 2019 Author Share Posted November 18, 2019 57 minutes ago, Unknøwn said: Gotta get through the ramblin wreck first. Can't overlook those coaches wearing skinny jean capris on the sideline. His new method of warmups holding a middle school field day event with his team prior to every game is pretty intimidating. sdogg 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Turkeydawg 2,551 Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 5 hours ago, m2Falcons said: Not really. He had a great year in many ways statistically but his unwillingness to throw to the middle of the field is very problematic. Then when he does, we see why he tries so hard to avoid it; because he is generally bad at it. In 2017, Fromm completed 37/49 (79.2%) over the middle. Not what I would consider "generally bad". I was only able to find his 2018 pass chart through 5 games, where he was 7/11. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ovie_Lover 29,841 Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 7 minutes ago, Turkeydawg said: In 2017, Fromm completed 37/49 (79.2%) over the middle. Not what I would consider "generally bad". I was only able to find his 2018 pass chart through 5 games, where he was 7/11. That's awful only 17% of his pass attempts where over the middle. FalconsIn2012 and PapaJoe 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TheTrue7 5,784 Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 3 hours ago, m2Falcons said: ummm... that pass to Blaylock was a deep pass. In the original post I clearly stated that "middle of the field," in the context of which I speak, is the area between the numbers and from LOS to 25 yards downfield. Lol ok.. I read “middle of the field” as “middle of the field”.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ovie_Lover 29,841 Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 57 minutes ago, TheTrue7 said: Lol ok.. I read “middle of the field” as “middle of the field”.. Even counting that he still rarely threw middle of the field. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TheTrue7 5,784 Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 3 hours ago, Ovie_Lover said: Even counting that he still rarely threw middle of the field. Thought it was quality not quantity lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ovie_Lover 29,841 Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 16 minutes ago, TheTrue7 said: Thought it was quality not quantity lol You can say that but if you only do it 17% of the time teams can cover the edges and shut you down almost. See this year. See South Carolina. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TheTrue7 5,784 Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 9 minutes ago, Ovie_Lover said: You can say that but if you only do it 17% of the time teams can cover the edges and shut you down almost. See this year. See South Carolina. Tyler ******* Simmons catches a ball that hit him in the hands and that game gets remembered a lot differently 95Dawg 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
95Dawg 5,916 Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 Or a correct route run of no missed FG or no pick six or maybe try the long FG before regulation is over or..... man we did about everything to lose that game and almost didn’t. 5-10 years ago we have that game and lose by 3 tds. TheTrue7 and Ovie_Lover 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ovie_Lover 29,841 Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 9 minutes ago, TheTrue7 said: Tyler ******* Simmons catches a ball that hit him in the hands and that game gets remembered a lot differently Cant guarantee that. There was still plenty of football to be played after that. Fromm puts up more than 7 points and it might be different. Fromm doesnt gift them 7 points and it might be different. Fromm doesn't throw 2 picks and it might be different. Fromm doesnt miss wide open receivers and it might be different. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dawgfanbrock 598 Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 Simmons and landers are awful, landers doesn’t even seem to really try.. no clue how he sees the field Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TheTrue7 5,784 Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 9 minutes ago, Ovie_Lover said: Cant guarantee that. There was still plenty of football to be played after that. Fromm puts up more than 7 points and it might be different. Fromm doesnt gift them 7 points and it might be different. Fromm doesn't throw 2 picks and it might be different. Fromm doesnt miss wide open receivers and it might be different. The Simmons drop happened in OT 95Dawg and Bdawg58 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PapaJoe 3,233 Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 6 hours ago, TheTrue7 said: Lol ok.. I read “middle of the field” as “middle of the field”.. Well.... middle is in both directions technically; width AND length. LOL But what i had said was in the original post just to clarify exactly > (basically any pass inside the numbers and between the LOS and 25 yards downfield) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SacFalcFan 1,064 Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 My prediction we win 30 to 17.. Fromm will complete a few passes in the middle of the field to those who think it's that important for him to do so.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ovie_Lover 29,841 Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 12 hours ago, TheTrue7 said: The Simmons drop happened in OT Ok and? How do you know Fromm doesnt throw an INT himself that drive? We fumble? Blocked kick? Missed kick? Etc Like I said plenty of football left. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ovie_Lover 29,841 Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 10 hours ago, SacFalcFan said: My prediction we win 30 to 17.. Fromm will complete a few passes in the middle of the field to those who think it's that important for him to do so.. If you dont think it's important to not be predictable that's fine. But that's how you get the offense we have right now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Carter 24,573 Posted November 19, 2019 Author Share Posted November 19, 2019 11 minutes ago, Ovie_Lover said: If you dont think it's important to not be predictable that's fine. But that's how you get the offense we have right now. I haven't seen an expert yet who is able to identify why our offense has struggled the way it has for much of this season. We have been dynamic and impossible to stop at times. We have been bland and not sharp in execution more often than not. It's hard to put your finger on something specific. If run on 1st down, run on 2nd down, pass to convert on 3rd down (or another combo involving a pass behind the LOS) is your criteria for predictable... we only did that on 5 of 15 possessions against Auburn (all 5 were 3 and outs). We did that in 5 of 12 possessions against Mizzou, but 3 of those drives ended with points or a missed field goal. We've been passing more on early downs quite a bit, there has been notable improvement in the play selection balance. The offense leaves a lot to be desired but it has been beating everyone's average for points given up though. We also haven't been playing against anything close to mediocre defenses. The last 3 teams we've played are in the top 5 of the conference... and we're #1. LSU isn't the other team btw. We should see more room for guys to make plays against TAMU, Tech and LSU. Defensively they are all a far cry from what we just went through. AutumnEffect and FalconsIn2012 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TheTrue7 5,784 Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 2 hours ago, Ovie_Lover said: Ok and? How do you know Fromm doesnt throw an INT himself that drive? We fumble? Blocked kick? Missed kick? Etc Like I said plenty of football left. worst case scenario, goggles kicks the game winner there in the first OT.. lets be real here Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SacFalcFan 1,064 Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 2 hours ago, Ovie_Lover said: If you dont think it's important to not be predictable that's fine. But that's how you get the offense we have right now. where fromm throws or doesn't throw has zero to do with predictability.. if a guy is open throw to them regardless.. we are predictable in our zone read runs up the middle on 1st, 2nd down, and throw on 3rd down.. we have a lot of 3 and outs like that. this offense with all of the bellyaching scored 2 less points on the road at auburn then the great amazing lsu offense did at home against auburn.. this team is what it is an offense trying to improve and get better each week after losing a ton of production offseason and a defense that is elite. i would take that over an elite offense with a crappy defense.. our offense can improve and will improve.. i was very happy with kearis coming back and how good he looked along with blaylock and pickens.. if cager can get healthy for lsu we will give them a heck of a game.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Porter Osborne Jr 812 Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 I know very little about AM. How do we stack up against them? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ovie_Lover 29,841 Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 21 minutes ago, TheTrue7 said: worst case scenario, goggles kicks the game winner there in the first OT.. lets be real here He missed a kick in overtime did he not? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ovie_Lover 29,841 Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 36 minutes ago, SacFalcFan said: where fromm throws or doesn't throw has zero to do with predictability.. if a guy is open throw to them regardless.. we are predictable in our zone read runs up the middle on 1st, 2nd down, and throw on 3rd down.. we have a lot of 3 and outs like that. this offense with all of the bellyaching scored 2 less points on the road at auburn then the great amazing lsu offense did at home against auburn.. this team is what it is an offense trying to improve and get better each week after losing a ton of production offseason and a defense that is elite. i would take that over an elite offense with a crappy defense.. our offense can improve and will improve.. i was very happy with kearis coming back and how good he looked along with blaylock and pickens.. if cager can get healthy for lsu we will give them a heck of a game.. Really? Lol right because fromm never misses guys wide open over the middle to throw a contested pass to the outside. We had more 3 and outs in the first half than LSU did in the entire game vs Auburn. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TheTrue7 5,784 Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 1 hour ago, Ovie_Lover said: He missed a kick in overtime did he not? He hasn’t missed a kick under 40 all year, has he? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SacFalcFan 1,064 Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 24 minutes ago, Ovie_Lover said: Really? Lol right because fromm never misses guys wide open over the middle to throw a contested pass to the outside. We had more 3 and outs in the first half than LSU did in the entire game vs Auburn. yep really.. i am sure he has missed guys open on the outside as well as inside as well as found guys open inside as well as the outside.. it's part of playing QB. the last i checked it's about scores and winning the game and we scored 2 less points and won the game at auburn.. lsu very likely loses that game at auburn. 9 3 and outs are not very good, but in a defensive struggle which we were in it is what you see. you can't blame one guy for our offense. it's a collective thing that needs to continue to get worked out.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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