Texas A&M vs #4 Georgia

[Carter]

Big home game which is also lined up for a big recruiting weekend for Georgia.

Interesting fact: Texas A&M has not lost a game against the SEC East since a 2014 home loss to Mizzou.

Texas A&M hasn't played UGA since joining the SEC... but at 3-2 all time against the Dawgs, the Aggies are one of just three teams in the SEC that UGA has a losing record against. The last meeting was in the 2009 Independence Bowl, which Georgia won 44-20. A win for the Dawgs would tie the all time record with A&M and then the only two teams that would hold series leads over the Dawgs would be Bama and LSU.

A&M has a lot of talent on their team, a lot of big receivers that could be **** on 50/50 balls and some talented RBs. Mond has been bipolar and very prone to making mistakes when pressed. Tons of talent on the A&M defense but they don't really play like it. The Dawgs should cover whatever the spread is on this one and could run away with it if the offense finds some consistency.

Coverage will be on CBS @ 3:30. 

[The Great American]

Glad the game is a home game.  A&M is a tradition rich program.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traditions_of_Texas_A%26M_University

[Ransack]

15 minutes ago, The Great American said:

Glad the game is a home game.  A&M is a tradition rich program.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traditions_of_Texas_A%26M_University

The cheer stuff they do is weird as ****.

[FalconsIn2012]

I’ve been critical of Fromm & Coley all season, but I have to wonder if it’s been Kirby’s influence on the offense that has been the problem.  Cause it’s been 2 OC’s but everything remains status quo.  Over three years we run on 65% of offensive plays.  That’s likely a Kirby directive.  Makes it hard to find offensive rhythm

Alabama run/pass ratio with Tua (3 years): 45-55

Georgia run/pass ratio with Fromm (3 years): 65-35

[PapaJoe]

22 minutes ago, FalconsIn2012 said:

I’ve been critical of Fromm & Coley all season, but I have to wonder if it’s been Kirby’s influence on the offense that has been the problem.  Cause it’s been 2 OC’s but everything remains status quo.  Over three years we run on 65% of offensive plays.  That’s likely a Kirby directive.  Makes it hard to find offensive rhythm

Alabama run/pass ratio with Tua (3 years): 45-55

Georgia run/pass ratio with Fromm (3 years): 65-35

You ever think part of it might just be that Kirby saw...  and still sees, the same weaknesses in Fromm's QB game that some of us saw, and still see, and thus he is trying to effectively manage the QB factor?

When you can run the ball, and you do it often, it really helps set up the deep pass/deep outs/fades...  which happens to be one of Fromm's strengths. Throwing drag routes, slants, seam routes, (basically any pass inside the numbers and between the LOS and 25 yards downfield) is most certainly NOT a Fromm strength!

Running the ball also helps keep your defense fresh later into game.

I am also not a Coley as OC fan, and I have no doubt that Kirby is influencing our offense to a negative extent in some ways, but honestly a lot of that is I believe a reflection of Fromm's utter disdain for throwing to the middle of field, and his liability to the team when doing so, coupled with a talent/experience issue at the TE and WR positions. Fromm HAS regressed...  and he had a lot of things he needed to improve on, so he is hampering the offense a lot at this point, while the OC plan is conservative and lacks imagination. It is largely a chicken and egg thing with the UGA offense right now.  

[FalconsIn2012]

6 minutes ago, m2Falcons said:

You ever think part of it might just be that Kirby saw...  and still sees, the same weaknesses in Fromm's QB game that some of us saw, and still see, and thus he is trying to effectively manage the QB factor?

When you can run the ball, and you do it often, it really helps set up the deep pass/deep outs/fades...  which happens to be one of Fromm's strengths. Throwing drag routes, slants, seam routes, (basically any pass inside the numbers and between the LOS and 25 yards downfield) is most certainly NOT a Fromm strength!

Running the ball also helps keep your defense fresh later into game.

I am also not a Coley as OC fan, and I have no doubt that Kirby is influencing our offense to a negative extent in some ways, but honestly a lot of that is I believe a reflection of Fromm's utter disdain for throwing to the middle of field, and his liability to the team when doing so, coupled with a talent/experience issue at the TE and WR positions. Fromm HAS regressed...  and he had a lot of things he needed to improve on, so he is hampering the offense a lot at this point, while the OC plan is conservative and lacks imagination. It is largely a chicken and egg thing with the UGA offense right now.  

If Kirby saw such a glaring weakness, then he was doubly stupid for not handing Fields the starting job last year.

[FalconsIn2012]

16 minutes ago, m2Falcons said:

You ever think part of it might just be that Kirby saw...  and still sees, the same weaknesses in Fromm's QB game that some of us saw, and still see, and thus he is trying to effectively manage the QB factor?

When you can run the ball, and you do it often, it really helps set up the deep pass/deep outs/fades...  which happens to be one of Fromm's strengths. Throwing drag routes, slants, seam routes, (basically any pass inside the numbers and between the LOS and 25 yards downfield) is most certainly NOT a Fromm strength!

Running the ball also helps keep your defense fresh later into game.

I am also not a Coley as OC fan, and I have no doubt that Kirby is influencing our offense to a negative extent in some ways, but honestly a lot of that is I believe a reflection of Fromm's utter disdain for throwing to the middle of field, and his liability to the team when doing so, coupled with a talent/experience issue at the TE and WR positions. Fromm HAS regressed...  and he had a lot of things he needed to improve on, so he is hampering the offense a lot at this point, while the OC plan is conservative and lacks imagination. It is largely a chicken and egg thing with the UGA offense right now.  

A really awful stat for Fromm.  Since losing to South Carolina, he is averaging a pedestrian 5.6 yards per attempt.  If his strength is the deep ball it hasn’t shown up lately

[Unknøwn]

The young WR core doesnt help Fromm either. It's a combination way more than it is a reflection of Fromm alone. 

[g-dawg]

1 hour ago, Unknøwn said:

The young WR core doesnt help Fromm either. It's a combination way more than it is a reflection of Fromm alone. 

After losing Hardeman, Ridley and Godwin all in the same year - the Holloman dismissal was a crushing blow.

I thought we had enough talent to overcome - and we do - but these guys just weren’t ready.

[SacFalcFan]

Georgia has as many victories against top-15 opponents (3) as Ohio State, Clemson, Alabama, Oregon, Utah and Penn State have combined, this season.  

[SacFalcFan]

49 minutes ago, g-dawg said:

After losing Hardeman, Ridley and Godwin all in the same year - the Holloman dismissal was a crushing blow.

I thought we had enough talent to overcome - and we do - but these guys just weren’t ready.

not a lot of freshman can step in and compete at a high level right away, but we are seeing improvement IMO.  these young guys will make some big plays for us as this year continues.  i am very excited about this team.. 

[SacFalcFan]

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LSU’s defense has given up a combined 113 points to Vanderbilt, Texas and Ole Miss, this season. That’s more than Georgia (105) has given up all season.

[SacFalcFan]

3 hours ago, Unknøwn said:

The young WR core doesnt help Fromm either. It's a combination way more than it is a reflection of Fromm alone. 

yep.. anyone who thought we would lost our top 6 pass catchers and not miss a beat was being delusional.  we could have been in better shape if we had holloman, but him being gone was a huge punch in the gut..  would have loved to see cager and holloman with pickens and a healthy kearis.  we had a number of guys leave early who had no business leaving and it has hurt this offense.. however i am seeing more and more young guys making plays.. kearis, pickens, and blaylock are all going to be big the next few weeks.. they are making more plays weekly and all 3 are doing a great job blocking.. we haven't had a complete game offensively, but we wiil.  

[PapaJoe]

4 hours ago, FalconsIn2012 said:

If Kirby saw such a glaring weakness, then he was doubly stupid for not handing Fields the starting job last year.

Except no player should ever get "handed" anything. You have to earn it. Fields didn't have what it took to stay, compete, and actually win the job...  which I thought he would do when he chose UGA. Alas, I was wrong.

[Prison Mikey]

5 hours ago, m2Falcons said:

You ever think part of it might just be that Kirby saw...  and still sees, the same weaknesses in Fromm's QB game that some of us saw, and still see, and thus he is trying to effectively manage the QB factor?

When you can run the ball, and you do it often, it really helps set up the deep pass/deep outs/fades...  which happens to be one of Fromm's strengths. Throwing drag routes, slants, seam routes, (basically any pass inside the numbers and between the LOS and 25 yards downfield) is most certainly NOT a Fromm strength!

Running the ball also helps keep your defense fresh later into game.

I am also not a Coley as OC fan, and I have no doubt that Kirby is influencing our offense to a negative extent in some ways, but honestly a lot of that is I believe a reflection of Fromm's utter disdain for throwing to the middle of field, and his liability to the team when doing so, coupled with a talent/experience issue at the TE and WR positions. Fromm HAS regressed...  and he had a lot of things he needed to improve on, so he is hampering the offense a lot at this point, while the OC plan is conservative and lacks imagination. It is largely a chicken and egg thing with the UGA offense right now.  

Not really. Fromm was exceptional in 2018 with 2750 yards, 30 tds, 6 int, and 5th overall in rating. The weapons on the perimeter haven't been there all season and likely won't this season. 

Not to give Coley a pass cause there are better out there. Though missing Holloman unexpectedly who easily was the best receiver along wtih Cager being compromised handicaps this entire offense. Not to mention two subpar TEs. Two guys expected just one to flash Landers and Simmons are both busts. Could go on and on. 

 

[richham]

We haven’t played well at home this season. I sure hope we can overcome that mental block and play well. It would be awesome to get some more of the young guys into a big game at home.

[lju713]

What if they are downplaying it until the SECCG or playoffs. What if Kirby/Coley are saving the innovation for later lol. I can dream a lil right

[PapaJoe]

13 hours ago, Prison Mikey said:

Not really. Fromm was exceptional in 2018 with 2750 yards, 30 tds, 6 int, and 5th overall in rating. The weapons on the perimeter haven't been there all season and likely won't this season. 

Not to give Coley a pass cause there are better out there. Though missing Holloman unexpectedly who easily was the best receiver along wtih Cager being compromised handicaps this entire offense. Not to mention two subpar TEs. Two guys expected just one to flash Landers and Simmons are both busts. Could go on and on. 

 

Not really. He had a great year in many ways statistically but his unwillingness to throw to the middle of the field is very problematic. Then when he does, we see why he tries so hard to avoid it; because he is generally bad at it. 

[TheTrue7]

32 minutes ago, m2Falcons said:

Not really. He had a great year in many ways statistically but his unwillingness to throw to the middle of the field is very problematic. Then when he does, we see why he tries so hard to avoid it; because he is generally bad at it. 

That TD to Blaylock looked pretty good.

[Billy Ocean]

I saw where someone said that if you look at our offensive line splits this year versus last year, there is a huge difference in the space between linemen. Our guys are closer together, which has resulted in better protection for Fromm (we've only allowed 6 sacks all season). However, this approach has impacted our inside run game, such that when teams load the box, our offensive line doesn't have room to operate.

I had been assuming it was because there was a drop off at center with Trey Hill taking over and also that Cade Mays could stand to improve, but maybe not so much.

[g-dawg]

Back to Texas A&M.   They are a dangerous team.  They have a great athlete at QB and enough talent overall that could be a problem if their QB has a great day.   You also have a championship pedigree head coach.

Kirby & Staff better have this team ready to play - if they do, Dawgs win.

[Carter]

25 minutes ago, g-dawg said:

Back to Texas A&M.   They are a dangerous team.  They have a great athlete at QB and enough talent overall that could be a problem if their QB has a great day.   You also have a championship pedigree head coach.

Kirby & Staff better have this team ready to play - if they do, Dawgs win.

Texas A&M is a good game for us to play before LSU imo. They are very similarly built teams and comparable schematically. Burrow obviously is playing at a much higher level than Mond this year, but Mond can be a very dangerous QB. Remember A&M and LSU had that 7OT game at the end of last season? Those two teams are not far off from each other. LSU's offense is actually a lot closer to what A&M does compared to last year.

I think how we play against A&M this week will give us some idea of what to expect in Atlanta.

[g-dawg]

Texas A&M ran for over 300yds against South Carolina defense and had two 100yd rushers.

Mond threw for 220yds as well.

This will be another physical game.

[Unknøwn]

25 minutes ago, Carter said:

Texas A&M is a good game for us to play before LSU imo. They are very similarly built teams and comparable schematically. Burrow obviously is playing at a much higher level than Mond this year, but Mond can be a very dangerous QB. Remember A&M and LSU had that 7OT game at the end of last season? Those two teams are not far off from each other. LSU's offense is actually a lot closer to what A&M does compared to last year.

I think how we play against A&M this week will give us some idea of what to expect in Atlanta.

Gotta get through the ramblin wreck first. 

[UAB_DAWG]

1 hour ago, Billy Ocean said:

I saw where someone said that if you look at our offensive line splits this year versus last year, there is a huge difference in the space between linemen. Our guys are closer together, which has resulted in better protection for Fromm (we've only allowed 6 sacks all season). However, this approach has impacted our inside run game, such that when teams load the box, our offensive line doesn't have room to operate.

I had been assuming it was because there was a drop off at center with Trey Hill taking over and also that Cade Mays could stand to improve, but maybe not so much.

I think that makes a lot of sense. Our line is usually getting push off the line and I don’t see a lot of guys blowing up plays in the backfield but defensive lines have been able to shed blocks and make tackles as our backs go by. The holes just aren’t there as much because we don’t have good spacing. 
 

I remember SC doing a good job job of this and I mentioned it in the game thread.