ATL_Buff Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 22 minutes ago, Atl Falcon said: I think J graham will surprise I like that cat I agree with this outstanding analysis. Atl Falcon 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jfalconsp Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 Hate it for him and for my fantasy team. Interested to see what Graham can do in a larger role. PokerSteve and OilFuturesTrader19 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconsIn2012 Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 48 minutes ago, vel said: I don't think people understand that those kind of stats was what he was on pace for. At 24 years old. It’s a 1st team All Pro season ATLSlobberKnockers, vel and Ergo Proxy 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconsIn2012 Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 @vel To put it into perspective, Kelce has never had 1,200 yards or 12 TD’s or 84% catch rate... Ergo Proxy, vel, Atl Falcon and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Long Shot Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 6 minutes ago, FalconsIn2012 said: @vel To put it into perspective, Kelce has never had 1,200 yards or 12 TD’s or 84% catch rate... I doubt there's ever been any Tight End with those numbers, the catch rate alone is probably the best ever by a Tight End with any sort of volume. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papachaz Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 3 hours ago, Osiruz said: Time for Luke Stocker to pad his stats. I bet we will try Ricky Ortiz, Vic Beasley, and Saubert there before Jaeden Graham gets a shot. Atl Falcon 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Francis Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 Bummer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caponine Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 Is Quinn an idiot or something,? Nvm , I forgot for a sec who I was talking about. Idc who you are mcl sprains sideline you for about a month FalconsIn2012 and PokerSteve 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tribal Chief Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 Welp, just dropped him from the fantasy team. Take your time and heal up Hoop. Signed, original supporter Pacific_Falcon and papachaz 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ergo Proxy Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 Hooper is an average blocker at best but Graham I wouldn’t trust at all. This means more Stocker snaps if not 3-4 wide. Unless a 2 TE formation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ergo Proxy Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 1 hour ago, FalconsIn2012 said: It’s a 1st team All Pro season Especially for NFC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vel Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 1 hour ago, FalconsIn2012 said: @vel To put it into perspective, Kelce has never had 1,200 yards or 12 TD’s or 84% catch rate... And Hooper is on pace for 100 catches. Seriously, he may not look like it, but he's a top tier TE. And the youngest one putting up these kind of numbers. Kelce is my undisputed #1 TE. Kittle is fighting for #2 with Hooper. But those are your top three TEs in my opinion. He just doesn't get the fan fare the other guys do because... Atlanta. Ergo Proxy, FalconsIn2012 and Pacific_Falcon 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tribal Chief Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 16 minutes ago, vel said: And Hooper is on pace for 100 catches. Seriously, he may not look like it, but he's a top tier TE. And the youngest one putting up these kind of numbers. Kelce is my undisputed #1 TE. Kittle is fighting for #2 with Hooper. But those are your top three TEs in my opinion. He just doesn't get the fan fare the other guys do because... Atlanta. You’d actually be surprised. I saw several fans of different teams throughout the league on twitter and Facebook groups that made a huge fuss about Grady this past offseason. That was very rare considering Grady wasn’t a true household name. Hooper’s going to get that same treatment due to him being talked about for pro bowl voting. Had he not gotten injured he’d definitely be talked about league wide(fan wise that is) by the end of the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vel Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 7 minutes ago, ya_boi_j said: You’d actually be surprised. I saw several fans of different teams throughout the league on twitter and Facebook groups that made a huge fuss about Grady this past offseason. That was very rare considering Grady wasn’t a true household name. Hooper’s going to get that same treatment due to him being talked about for pro bowl voting. Had he not gotten injured he’d definitely be talked about league wide(fan wise that is) by the end of the season. Yep. Grady "wasn't a double digit sack guy" yet is back on pace for 10 sacks. It's about future production, not past performance. A 24 year old TE who is pacing the league in production. Yes please. Grady was a 25 year old DT who showed glimpses of excellence. Yes please. I'm all for paying sub 26 year old players big money on 4-5 year deals. Tribal Chief, Atl Falcon, ATLSlobberKnockers and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tribal Chief Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 5 minutes ago, vel said: Yep. Grady "wasn't a double digit sack guy" yet is back on pace for 10 sacks. It's about future production, not past performance. A 24 year old TE who is pacing the league in production. Yes please. Grady was a 25 year old DT who showed glimpses of excellence. Yes please. I'm all for paying sub 26 year old players big money on 4-5 year deals. I’ve been a Hoop supporter from day 1, even when folks were saying an athletic TE was needed. I even won a avatar bet with quickzero 2 seasons ago when he was confident Hoop wouldn’t be the starter. Love me some Hoop. Ergo Proxy, vel, FalconsIn2012 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-train Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 2 hours ago, Dr Long Shot said: I doubt there's ever been any Tight End with those numbers, the catch rate alone is probably the best ever by a Tight End with any sort of volume. Hooper was over 80% catch rate last season, too. In 2017 he was 75.4% and there was only one TE in the entire NFL that year who had a higher catch rate on as many targets as Hooper. His catch rate as a rookie was 70.4%... meaning he's been at 70% or better all four years he's played thus far. For perspective on how clutch Hooper is at a target for Matt Ryan: In Tony Gonzalez's entire 17 year HOF career, he only had a catch rate above 70% three times (w/ a best of 75%) Travis Kelce has played 7 seasons so far & only been above 70% twice (best: 77%) Antonio Gates played 16 years & only went above 70% four times (best: 76.9%) Gronk played nine seasons (so far?) & only went over 70% twice (best: 72.6%) Diggable Birds, FalconsIn2012, ATLSlobberKnockers and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ergo Proxy Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 Archer had high praise for Hooper on 92.9 today. Tribal Chief 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconsIn2012 Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 22 minutes ago, vel said: Yep. Grady "wasn't a double digit sack guy" yet is back on pace for 10 sacks. It's about future production, not past performance. A 24 year old TE who is pacing the league in production. Yes please. Grady was a 25 year old DT who showed glimpses of excellence. Yes please. I'm all for paying sub 26 year old players big money on 4-5 year deals. And Hooper won’t even cost 10 mill APY. I think 9 APY gets him secured. It’s what Freeman makes...and who had more value? k-train, Ergo Proxy and vel 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconsIn2012 Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 18 minutes ago, k-train said: Hooper was over 80% catch rate last season, too. In 2017 he was 75.4% and there was only one TE in the entire NFL that year who had a higher catch rate on as many targets as Hooper. His catch rate as a rookie was 70.4%... meaning he's been at 70% or better all four years he's played thus far. For perspective on how clutch Hooper is at a target for Matt Ryan: In Tony Gonzalez's entire 17 year HOF career, he only had a catch rate above 70% three times (w/ a best of 75%) Travis Kelce has played 7 seasons so far & only been above 70% twice (best: 77%) Antonio Gates played 16 years & only went above 70% four times (best: 76.9%) Gronk played nine seasons (so far?) & only went over 70% twice (best: 72.6%) The only comp on catch rate is Michael Thomas. And his is simply other worldly at 84% this year and 80% for his career k-train 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLSlobberKnockers Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 5 hours ago, FalconsIn2012 said: Welp, this may save us a few million when extending him, cause dude has put in the work and was about to have a TG like season and get paid. He deserves it and we’d be foolish not to pay him Thought you wanted to let him walk? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLSlobberKnockers Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 30 minutes ago, ya_boi_j said: I’ve been a Hoop supporter from day 1, even when folks were saying an athletic TE was needed. I even won a avatar bet with quickzero 2 seasons ago when he was confident Hoop wouldn’t be the starter. Love me some Hoop. I.remember. I wanted Bucky Hodges. Lol Tribal Chief 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ergo Proxy Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 (edited) Arch comments starting at 15:30 into this section of the show today (usually they snip just Archer’s interview): https://929thegame.radio.com/media/audio-channel/andy-and-randy-hour-3-11-13-19 20:30 in to hear Comments on losing Hooper specifically; calls his blocking adequate rather than good, but Graham being not adequate as a blocker and can’t block anybody. Says Hooper has gotten to being in the realm of Tony G with Ryan; regarding his understanding of coverages/zones and being on same page with Matt...all that work they have put in until now even in offseason. More than just Graham needs to step up. Gage and others. Edited November 13, 2019 by Ergo Proxy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tribal Chief Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 1 minute ago, ATLSlobberKnockers said: I.remember. I wanted Bucky Hodges. Lol Has he even played a real down for anyone lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLSlobberKnockers Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 1 minute ago, ya_boi_j said: Has he even played a real down for anyone lol No and Idt he's on a team. Was.graded by Kiper.as a 1st rnd prospect. He just doesn't have the heart which is sad cuz he has the ability Tribal Chief 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tribal Chief Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 1 minute ago, ATLSlobberKnockers said: No and Idt he's on a team. Was.graded by Kiper.as a 1st rnd prospect. He just doesn't have the heart which is sad cuz he has the ability Sounds familiar but that’s neither here nor there lol ATLSlobberKnockers 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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