Sun Tzu 7

Was it talent or coaching?

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So as of last week the Falcons talent level was terrible and the usual it was all TDs fault and blah blah.

Unless I was mistaken, other than the punter and kicker, this was mainly the same team and same players that came out today.

Has it been talent or coaching?

I've thought coaching but I'm curious to what everyone says now after a good performance.

And yes, it was one game, tons of things can still happen.

But let's all take a moment to stop and think about all the pain the Saints fans are in and be sure to soak it up.

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It was that terrible defensive scheme Quinn was running and only works when you have 4 (Thomas, Kam, Sherman, Wagner) All Pros on your defense. 

Koetter still sucks IMO and should not be back next year. He's lucky the defense played great today or this game could have gone either way.

Talent is good enough to be competitive every game.

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7 minutes ago, The Don™ said:

It was that terrible defensive scheme Quinn was running and only works when you have 4 (Thomas, Kam, Sherman, Wagner) All Pros on your defense. 

Koetter still sucks IMO and should not be back next year. He's lucky the defense played great today or this game could have gone either way.

Talent is good enough to be competitive every game.

I agree Koetter sucks. Would love to get Mike McDaniel as OC from SF.

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2 minutes ago, Mr.Falcon79 said:

I agree Koetter sucks. Would love to get Mike McDaniel as OC from SF.

U think Knapp had more to do with play calling on the offense like it was obvious he did vs the Seahawks? Both sides of the ball played much better 

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2 minutes ago, Mr.Falcon79 said:

I agree Koetter sucks. Would love to get Mike McDaniel as OC from SF.

Only problem you risk with that is if he impresses, he would be a hired as a head coach immediately. 

You'd have to commit to make him your head coach.

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1 minute ago, ⚡Slumerican⚡ said:

U think Knapp had more to do with play calling on the offense like it was obvious he did vs the Seahawks? Both sides of the ball played much better 

Yeah possibly. Definitely didn’t look like the same offensive play calling we have seen the first 8 games. Never thought of that but definitely makes sense. If that’s the case then maybe Knapp OC if we can’t get Mike McDaniels as our new OC. But please Blank we have to let Koetter go!

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I was going to start a thread but this one is fine.

Defense had a good day.  A great day. 6 sacks.... wow.

Beasley even showed up.

Matty had a good day.  HE WAS CHANNELING LAMAR JOHNSON. In a safe way. :tiphat: passing had some zip.  Surprised the receivers.

Julio had a good day

Ridley had another good day.

Hooper showing why he should play.

When Freeman has a good day Falcons have a good day.  Freeman got hurt, Hill stepped in and took over.  We actually had a freakin' run game, finally.  It still needs work.

Koo Koo Koookoo for Koo FGs make a difference.

Less penalties make a difference.

Above all The Coach was not out coached.

Finally an enjoyable game to watch.

plus we beat the Saint's in their house and showed Brees the turf six times... while being 1-7

GOoooooFalcons!

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3 minutes ago, The Don™ said:

Only problem you risk with that is if he impresses, he would be a hired as a head coach immediately. 

You'd have to commit to make him your head coach.

Would not be opposed to that idea either. What is Quinn really doing. Has a game manager, a secondary coach and a coach calling plays now. So why not hire Mike McDaniel as head coach? Would we really be worse off doing that?

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20 minutes ago, Sun Tzu 7 said:

So as of last week the Falcons talent level was terrible and the usual it was all TDs fault and blah blah.

Unless I was mistaken, other than the punter and kicker, this was mainly the same team and same players that came out today.

Has it been talent or coaching?

I've thought coaching but I'm curious to what everyone says now after a good performance.

And yes, it was one game, tons of things can still happen.

But let's all take a moment to stop and think about all the pain the Saints fans are in and be sure to soak it up.


"But let's all take a moment to stop and think about all the pain the Saints fans are in and be sure to soak it up".  

LOL!!!!!!  

Must be coaching, 'cause except for the punter and kicker, we fielded pretty much the same squad that started game #1 ---  
Whatever it was, keep it up and don't change a thing!!! 







 

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25 minutes ago, The Don™ said:

It was that terrible defensive scheme Quinn was running and only works when you have 4 (Thomas, Kam, Sherman, Wagner) All Pros on your defense. 

Koetter still sucks IMO and should not be back next year. He's lucky the defense played great today or this game could have gone either way.

Talent is good enough to be competitive every game.

We weren’t running that Seattle scheme to start the season. Quinn was rolling out some 3-4 hybrid — old fashioned 5-2 with the wrong pieces for it.

We were running something closer to that Seahawk scheme today.

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7 minutes ago, PeytonMannings Forehead said:

We weren’t running that Seattle scheme to start the season. Quinn was rolling out some 3-4 hybrid — old fashioned 5-2 with the wrong pieces for it.

We were running something closer to that Seahawk scheme today.

That's what I was thinking!  The scheme looked different, and we played better because of it.  Even the DBs looked better, and seemed to cause Breesus problems trying to find an open man....and in turn, it gave our D-line more time to get to him!!! 
SIX SACKS, baby ---- now that's what I'm talkin' about!!! 

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30 minutes ago, ⚡Slumerican⚡ said:

U think Knapp had more to do with play calling on the offense like it was obvious he did vs the Seahawks? Both sides of the ball played much better 

Koetter was calling plays from the booth. 

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I’m gonna give DK some dap today I called stick with the run early in the game day thread he did and heaven forbid we controlled the clock and won the game.

Lesson going foward if we finally realise to stay committed to the run and execute it we can beat anyone.

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Coaches are coaching in their respective positions. We never should have had a Secondary Coach working with the receivers. That works in college, but not the development of young NFL Players.

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55 minutes ago, PeytonMannings Forehead said:

We weren’t running that Seattle scheme to start the season. Quinn was rolling out some 3-4 hybrid — old fashioned 5-2 with the wrong pieces for it.

We were running something closer to that Seahawk scheme today.

I seriously wonder how much influence Sutton has had. The farther away we get from that, the better the D looks.

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40 minutes ago, Precyse said:

This same talent went to the Superbowl and Divisional Round of the playoffs. Its Coaching 

Same coaching that got to the Super bowl and division round of playoffs too.

 

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1 hour ago, Sun Tzu 7 said:

So as of last week the Falcons talent level was terrible and the usual it was all TDs fault and blah blah.

Unless I was mistaken, other than the punter and kicker, this was mainly the same team and same players that came out today.

Has it been talent or coaching?

I've thought coaching but I'm curious to what everyone says now after a good performance.

And yes, it was one game, tons of things can still happen.

But let's all take a moment to stop and think about all the pain the Saints fans are in and be sure to soak it up.

Shall I quote my posts stating that our problem wasn't a lack of talent, but horrible coaching by Dan Quinn? I am happy to do so!

I specifically said that on defense in particular, we really just need an Edge to replace the lax and lazy Vic Beasley (I stand behind that), a CB to replace Trufant, who will be a cap casualty, and a S to replace the oft-injured Neal. I said Takk may or not be salvageable, depending on if he can get over his mental instability issues.

When it is good for the team, I am more than happy to toot my own horn, and pat myself on the back.

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5 minutes ago, falconsd56 said:

Same coaching that got to the Super bowl and division round of playoffs too.

 

Not true. This coaching is a shell of the former self. 

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