tldr Posted November 10, 2019 Author Share Posted November 10, 2019 22 minutes ago, Ovie_Lover said: That's fair enough but he's been meh his entire career and then blows up his last year. We've seen this show before and they flame out in the league more times than not. I feel bad for whatever team takes him. Matt had one good year in college FalconsIn2012 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osiruz Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 50 minutes ago, 1989Fan said: No to Burrow, and not because I don’t like Burrow. Build up the team (esp. OL) so Ryan can benefit now and the next QB can come into a situation where he can succeed immediately. I am for a guy in round 3+ to groom for 2-5 years though. Brady got to be Brady because he was drafted into a great team that didn’t need a QB right away, and already built a great team around Bledsoe. i repeat, build the team so the next guy can succeed instead of drafting a QB first, which guarantees a top 5 pick or highly paid MVP caliber QB is on the bench. We signed 2 guards, drafted an OT, OG, and signed a center and LT. In defense we drafted 2 dts, and 2 des high. Theres only so much building you can do on the lines. At some point you have to recognize that Ryan will probably not be here by the time we have the right personnel to make another run and get his replacement. You can trade Ryan for picks or maybe even some thorough breds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falcons007 Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 3 hours ago, FalconsIn2012 said: In a vacuum you are of course right. Ryan is still the strength of the team. Probably will be for another two years. But our CAP may prevent us from fielding a SB roster in the next two years. Drafting Burrow is gone with an eye on 2022. Ryan would start next year and then be traded for a 1st. The CAP clears out a year later and then build a SB defense This is the dumbest thing I have read in a while. To trade Ryan and get under the cap Falcons will have to get rid of half the roster. How is this setting up for SB in next two years. Geneaut, Tribal Chief and ATLSlobberKnockers 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbaby Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 30 minutes ago, Ovie_Lover said: That's fair enough but he's been meh his entire career and then blows up his last year. We've seen this show before and they flame out in the league more times than not. I feel bad for whatever team takes him. He should of transferred from Ohio State sooner than what he did (last season). Sitting behind JT Barrett for 2 year slowed his development. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkerFalcon8710 Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 2 hours ago, FalconsIn2012 said: Did GB view drafting ARod as wasting a high 1st? Lets slow down on anointing the 1 yr wonder Geneaut and Ergo Proxy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ergo Proxy Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 3 hours ago, JD dirtybird21 said: Another thing to consider here is how they public would take this. Blank and the GM (TD or not) are going to take some serious heat if they take a QB with a player like Young on the board. Trading Ryan could also outrage some fans. It’s a risky decision business wise Eh, just let him replace Brees or Brady for the next 5 or 6 years; win a couple trophies for good coaches and teams. We can’t put it all together with him anyway. 2016 proved that. /s /p JD dirtybird21 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ergo Proxy Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 4 hours ago, JD dirtybird21 said: Someone will bite. Someone always does on QB’s like that. I’d like to take bites on a QB again...lord knows we’ve lacked one for so long. JD dirtybird21 and ATLSlobberKnockers 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ergo Proxy Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 2 hours ago, SkerFalcon8710 said: Just no on wasting a high first on qb https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/baker-mayfield-shaves-twice-in-one-day-gets-roasted-for-his-depressing-postgame-look/ Idk man. Mayfield is already better than Ryan; and he beat him as a rookie! NFL.com put him as a top 50 player; passed Ryan and Watson. Not even a full season as a rook and already passed Matt. We can upgrade Ryan so easily. If we got TT a few years ago and let Ryan walk? We’d be SB favorites. We coulda signed Mack from the Raiders and we’d have a top 7 Defense right now! ATLSlobberKnockers 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChickenBiscuit Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 aand now the usual suspects are here, it will devolve into a flame war from here on out. ATLSlobberKnockers 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ergo Proxy Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 1 hour ago, VTCrunkler said: + = VTCrunkler 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pacific_Falcon Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 4 hours ago, JD dirtybird21 said: He looks like an NFL QB to me. So does Herbert. But Herbert hasn’t played any TOUGH games this year other than Auburn, which they lost. Tua on the other hand looks like the ultimate college QB to me and fools gold for NFL WAC-12 defenses lol ATLSlobberKnockers and Ergo Proxy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ergo Proxy Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 1 minute ago, ChickenBiscuit said: aand now the usual suspects are here, it will devolve into a flame war from here on out. ChickenBiscuit and Geneaut 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChickenBiscuit Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 Just now, Ergo Proxy said: LMFAO chill out bro Ergo Proxy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ergo Proxy Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 5 minutes ago, ChickenBiscuit said: LMFAO chill out bro Wh...what if Kyle lit the match before he left? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ergo Proxy Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 35 minutes ago, SkerFalcon8710 said: Lets slow down on anointing the 1 yr wonder Easy. We can finally get Trevor Lawrence as he falls instead. Then, next year we’ll trade up with all them picks for Ryan to get Fields! What’s better than 1 potential franchise QB? TWO FRANCHISE QBs!!! Saints have 3 this season alone. That’s clearly the difference between Saints/Falcons! We need more Qbell!! Geneaut and ATLSlobberKnockers 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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FalconsIn2012 Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 1 hour ago, 1989Fan said: When is the last time a team had a QB the caliber of Ryan and even considered one with top 5 pick? i seriously don’t know...if there is one I would like to know for my memory bank. edit: Kurt Warner is the only argument I can think of, but he didn’t have a good career in NYG, he got benched actually and most thought his career was over. To play Devil’s Advocate, the great QB’s don’t let their team suck so bad they draft In the top 3. I don’t blame Ryan for this, but it’s a fact. How many three wins seasons have Brady or manning or Favre or Elway struggled through? 1989Fan and Jerz 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ergo Proxy Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 3 minutes ago, FalconsIn2012 said: To play Devil’s Advocate, the great QB’s don’t let their team suck so bad they draft In the top 3. I don’t blame Ryan for this, but it’s a fact. How many three wins seasons have Brady or manning or Favre or Elway struggled through? Easy. Falcons Defense is historically bad this year. Not exaggerating. Still no run game. And, merrygoround at OC while we still can’t field anything more than a solid D once in a blue moon. What Brady Defense has EVER been as bad as 2018 or 2019 Falcons D? ... ...... .............................. Worst year we’ve had before now with Ryan was Smith’s last season in 2014; 6-10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HEIST Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 If you want Joe Brady, you should be willing to make the leap of faith and make him the HC. Because if he's a good, super young (30 years old) OC then he's gonna get poached super fast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ergo Proxy Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 Fix the defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1989Fan Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 29 minutes ago, FalconsIn2012 said: To play Devil’s Advocate, the great QB’s don’t let their team suck so bad they draft In the top 3. I don’t blame Ryan for this, but it’s a fact. How many three wins seasons have Brady or manning or Favre or Elway struggled through? I am a big fan of devils advocate argument, and agree I t’s a valid point, I thought it myself TBH. But aside from the first 2 games, what more could Ryan have done? How many of these QBs have had defenses giving up 30ppg+ on average? I guess my rebuttal would be to ask if any of those teams have ever been as bad as this Falcons team aside from QB. The guy was leading the NFL in yards and TDs before getting hurt after all. Ergo Proxy and Geneaut 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLSlobberKnockers Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 40 minutes ago, FalconsIn2012 said: To play Devil’s Advocate, the great QB’s don’t let their team suck so bad they draft In the top 3. I don’t blame Ryan for this, but it’s a fact. How many three wins seasons have Brady or manning or Favre or Elway struggled through? Manning had a 3-13 season and a 6-10. Happens when you have the worst defense in the league. Marino had 6 seasons of tied or losing record seasons. And come on dude your better than to make this weak was argument Geneaut and Ergo Proxy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freefall Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 2 hours ago, 2_legit_2_legit_2_quit said: How long did Rogers sit behind Farve? Sooner or later we need our next QB drafted and I’d rather have one learning for a couple of seasons under Ryan. Sure, use the 2nd round pick we got from the Pats and take a QB who is raw but has high potential then let him sit a couple years. If he turns out to be good then he can either replace Ryan or be traded for a 1st round pick, but you don’t do that with a potential 1st QB and possibly #1 overall pick. Geneaut and ATLSlobberKnockers 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coastiemike Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 40 minutes ago, FalconsIn2012 said: To play Devil’s Advocate, the great QB’s don’t let their team suck so bad they draft In the top 3. I don’t blame Ryan for this, but it’s a fact. How many three wins seasons have Brady or manning or Favre or Elway struggled through? I know Elway went 5-11 one season. Ergo Proxy and ATLSlobberKnockers 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ergo Proxy Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 C’mon. It’s not fair comparing all those lame franchises to the great Falcons legacy! Especially pre-Ryan... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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