If Jalen Hurts is still on the board in the 2nd round, we gotta take him.

[JetJones11]

**** no he’s not an NFL Qb ... BUST

[falcons007]

4 hours ago, PriMeTiiMe said:

No we don't.

For every Watson theirs a Winston, Mariota and Trubisky.

Watson played one full season. I would say Russell Wilson is an exception and gold standard for mobile QB.

[Malachore]

Maybe the 4th bit not the 2nd, not with all these holes on defense and both lines.

[mtldirtybird]

7 hours ago, FalconsFanSince194eva said:

This post is dumb. So because there are bad players you should never try get a good one? I don’t even like Hurts but this post doesn’t make since. 
 

Well guys for every Manning there is a Leaf, so let’s pass on Andrew Luck cause he might suck. 

no because the OP is saying just burn a pick on him when it's not a need. Luck was the best prospect in a generation, Hurts is barely a good pro prospect

[abcranford2]

Love the guy and his attitude but he's not a qb and he'll probably never play qb in the nfl

[TheUsualStuff]

PMF is spot on about leaving the SEC and those defenses and going where he is now. The offense played there is a wee bit different as well.

I don't think anyone can say definitively what Hurts will do in the NFL, but what can be said is any team taking him with the notion he's going to be a franchise QB is taking a wild shot in the dark.

Sure.. you "could" hit.. Chances are though that you will miss wildly.

Is that what you want to do with an early round pick? Not me.. I think I can get someone else for a different position of need with a much better chance of success. 

[Knight of God]

9 hours ago, PriMeTiiMe said:

No we don't.

For every Watson theirs a Winston, Mariota and Trubisky.

Winston is a black guy, but he’s far from mobile. He’s a pocket guy.

[Rings]

33 minutes ago, Knight of God said:

Winston is a black guy, but he’s far from mobile. He’s a pocket guy.

Agreed.  Winston is closer to Fitzpatrick than the other two.  Both can make huge throws but put the ball in harms way too much.  The other two are very conservative QBs from a throwing stand point.

[Rings]

8 hours ago, Refried Beans said:

Cam Akers will win the MVP in the NFL. 

He switching to QB?

[Roanoke Falcon]

10 hours ago, XXVIII-III said:

I know we have TONS of other needs now, but it’s way too tough to get a shot at a potential franchise QB to pass up if he’s still on the board for our 2nd round pick. Some are predicting he’ll go in the 3rd or 4th round, but I think teams have wisened up after watching Watson and Jackson fall in the draft then come out and ball.

Gotta do it.

Dude wasn't a good enough passer to keep his job IN FREAKING COLLEGE, and you think he's a franchise quarterback?!!?

[Califalcon0013]

8 hours ago, DogIsYourName said:

Cam Akers is going to be one of the most underrated players in the draft.  He doesn't have holes to run through like a normal RB.

**** just saw game tape. kids big ,strong, fast, can jump cut pretty good with the ability to catch out the back field.saw him throw the ball too **** hes good.so good falcons probably wont draft him and **** go to the chiefs because andy reid has an eye for talent lol

[coastiemike]

So instead of filling any holes at OC, OG, DE, DT, LB, CB, or S, you think it would be wise to draft a back-up QB who will remain a back-up until his rookie contract expires with a 2nd round pick?  Is that correct?

[Knight of God]

2 hours ago, rings639 said:

Agreed.  Winston is closer to Fitzpatrick than the other two.  Both can make huge throws but put the ball in harms way too much.  The other two are very conservative QBs from a throwing stand point.

Good eye. I’d say both are pretty smart, love the game, but panic. I tend to cheer for Fitz. I love a good game manager, but neither is more than that yet are confused for that

[PriMeTiiMe]

6 hours ago, Knight of God said:

Winston is a black guy, but he’s far from mobile. He’s a pocket guy.

When did I say he was mobile? And what does him being black have to do with anything? I named 3 bust qbs recently off the top of my head.

[Sidecar Falcon]

15 hours ago, PeytonMannings Forehead said:

He's also gone from playing in a conference with NFL caliber schemes to one where defense is optional.  And Oklahoma's offenses have made a lot of guys look better than they really are.

I ain't saying he's gonna be garage.  I think he could wind up solid if he gets in the right situation.   But thinking you're gonna burn a 2nd round pick and luck into a franchise QB the caliber of Watson or Jackson?  I've seen all three of those guys play extensively before they were on anyone's NFL radar, and Hurts is nowhere near the player Watson is, let alone Jackson.

I think there’s something to the offense that Riley runs. He manages to scheme to the strengths of his QB. I believe both Mayfield and Murray were both coached extremely well in college. So in my opinion it’s a bit of both. 
 

That being said I think an early 2nd round pick on Hurts is a little risky. The Pats 2nd round pick may be a little better, but not by much. I think the 3rd round is a good place to select him. 

[TheUsualStuff]

30 minutes ago, Sidecar Falcon said:

I think there’s something to the offense that Riley runs. He manages to scheme to the strengths of his QB. I believe both Mayfield and Murray were both coached extremely well in college. So in my opinion it’s a bit of both. 
 

That being said I think an early 2nd round pick on Hurts is a little risky. The Pats 2nd round pick may be a little better, but not by much. I think the 3rd round is a good place to select him. 

I would take him....

If it was somewhere in the draft that if he busts I won't feel like I screwed up big time when we have so many other higher priority needs. 

That for me would be the 4th... maybe.. maybe the 3rd if I homered with my earlier picks.

I'm just not sold on Hurts outside of Riley's system and against the defenses in that conference. I mean they play like schoolyard ball.

[A Pimp Named Slickback™]

18 hours ago, ya_boi_j said:

I’ll be glad when this current mobile QB fad dies 

Don't hold your breath.

[isproab]

16 hours ago, PeytonMannings Forehead said:

He's also gone from playing in a conference with NFL caliber schemes to one where defense is optional.  And Oklahoma's offenses have made a lot of guys look better than they really are.

I ain't saying he's gonna be garage.  I think he could wind up solid if he gets in the right situation.   But thinking you're gonna burn a 2nd round pick and luck into a franchise QB the caliber of Watson or Jackson?  I've seen all three of those guys play extensively before they were on anyone's NFL radar, and Hurts is nowhere near the player Watson is, let alone Jackson.

I don't know man.  There was a time when the college "spread offense" was a gimmick.  I would always hear its easy to find 4 or 5 good WRs and virtually no team has 4 or 5 CBs that can match up.  Well, looks like Patrick Mahomes has answered some questions.  I just don't think as a rule you can successfully get away with assumptions that the Big 12 can't produce long term NFL starting QBs.  Every human being is unique.  I don't think 10 years ago people would have went to North Dakota State to get a QB.  If the guys earns it and measures up, he has earned his spot.  If the likes of Josh Allen, Carson Wentz and Mitch Trubisky can be worthy of their top draft status, I don't understand why Hurts can't be worthy.  

[Gee-Q]

I would take him with our extra 2nd.. (since it will basically be a 3rd)

[Boise Falcon Fan]

21 hours ago, thanat0s said:

Sigh...

 

We have a MVP QB, and an all-pro WR,  who are likely on their last go around with this franchise. Our only focus next offseason will (AND SHOULD) be focused solely on bolstering this roster to make runs at the SB in the next couple/three years. 

We can rebuild when Matt hangs it up and Julio's contract is gone. 

 Mic Drop!

[PeytonMannings Forehead]

2 hours ago, isproab said:

I don't know man.  There was a time when the college "spread offense" was a gimmick.  I would always hear its easy to find 4 or 5 good WRs and virtually no team has 4 or 5 CBs that can match up.  Well, looks like Patrick Mahomes has answered some questions.  I just don't think as a rule you can successfully get away with assumptions that the Big 12 can't produce long term NFL starting QBs.  Every human being is unique.  I don't think 10 years ago people would have went to North Dakota State to get a QB.  If the guys earns it and measures up, he has earned his spot.  If the likes of Josh Allen, Carson Wentz and Mitch Trubisky can be worthy of their top draft status, I don't understand why Hurts can't be worthy.  

Let me say this first off; Mitch Trubisky wasn’t worthy of his draft spot and a scouts have been turning over every rock imaginable for generations to find talent. You think North Dakota State is something, 40 years ago Phil Simms got drafted out of Morehead State in the top 10. Morehead State doesn’t even have football anymore.

Also, Wentz played in an NFL style offense. You could see on film him under center, changing protections, play-actions, going through progressions, throwing route combinations he’d have to throw at the next level.

With Mahomes you could see the plus arm and the off the charts throwing talent that transcended the offense he was playing in.

The difference with Hurts, he doesn’t have elite throwing talent. He doesn’t have lights out ball placement. I saw both Mahomes and Wentz make tight-window stick throws in college that I knew would translate to the NFL. It’s no shade at the offense he’s playing in now and Riley is doing his job but he’s got a lot of easy throws at OU. Kinda reminds me of Spurrier’s offense in a way where every QB the old ball coach laid hands on put up numbers.

Difference between these others is we’ve had the chance to see him against a different class of competition and in another offense and he struggled mightily with all those traits... same way I saw Mitch Trubisky go through one read and bail when he was at Carolina. But I like the way Riley teaches progressions so I’m sure he’s getting schooled up there but the arm talent and high level ball placement is still a question mark. And I wouldn’t burn a #2 pick on a guy expecting him to turn into a franchise QB because he put up impressive numbers in an offense designed to put up impressive numbers without seeing those other traits to go with it.

[Knight of God]

8 hours ago, PriMeTiiMe said:

When did I say he was mobile? And what does him being black have to do with anything? I named 3 bust qbs recently off the top of my head.

Then what does he have to do with the topic or even the rest of your list? Never watched Sesame Street as a kid?

[Tribal Chief]

7 hours ago, A Pimp Named Slickback™ said:

Don't hold your breath.

True. I aint ready to die just yet. 

[Vandy]

5 hours ago, PeytonMannings Forehead said:

Let me say this first off; Mitch Trubisky wasn’t worthy of his draft spot and a scouts have been turning over every rock imaginable for generations to find talent. You think North Dakota State is something, 40 years ago Phil Simms got drafted out of Morehead State in the top 10. Morehead State doesn’t even have football anymore.

Also, Wentz played in an NFL style offense. You could see on film him under center, changing protections, play-actions, going through progressions, throwing route combinations he’d have to throw at the next level.

With Mahomes you could see the plus arm and the off the charts throwing talent that transcended the offense he was playing in.

The difference with Hurts, he doesn’t have elite throwing talent. He doesn’t have lights out ball placement. I saw both Mahomes and Wentz make tight-window stick throws in college that I knew would translate to the NFL. It’s no shade at the offense he’s playing in now and Riley is doing his job but he’s got a lot of easy throws at OU. Kinda reminds me of Spurrier’s offense in a way where every QB the old ball coach laid hands on put up numbers.

Difference between these others is we’ve had the chance to see him against a different class of competition and in another offense and he struggled mightily with all those traits... same way I saw Mitch Trubisky go through one read and bail when he was at Carolina. But I like the way Riley teaches progressions so I’m sure he’s getting schooled up there but the arm talent and high level ball placement is still a question mark. And I wouldn’t burn a #2 pick on a guy expecting him to turn into a franchise QB because he put up impressive numbers in an offense designed to put up impressive numbers without seeing those other traits to go with it.

Riley's offense very much reminds me of Spurriers. It's the #1 reason why I don't want him coming here.

I was a big Lamar Jackson fan in that 2018 draft, because you could see he had that rare arm strength. I just don't see any of that in Hurts. 

Awesome young man, I think he’ll be successful in life. Just not as an NFL QB.