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Falcons were unimpressed with Matt LaFleur’s work, and let him walk before hiring Steve Sarkisian

Now that the wheels have completely fallen off of the Falcons offense, we’ve been wondering why Dan Quinn didn’t just promote Matt LaFleur.

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.thefalcoholic.com/platform/amp/2017/10/23/16527676/falcons-were-unimpressed-with-matt-lafleurs-work-and-let-him-walk-before-hiring-steve-sarkisian

 

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And I love TD/Quinn, but dang.  Sark wasn’t the problem in 2018 and I bet we are .500 if he was here in 2019.... but with a person in the know, with WCO pedigree calling our offense in 2017 we easily could have won a SB.  Easily.  
 

The QB coach apparently didn’t make enough sense.  But just remember, we never lost on 2017 when scoring 20 points or more.  
 

While 2016 would have been a boon, 2017 was actually the year we should’ve won the Super Bowl

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“It would be difficult for any outside coach to step into that situation, much less this one given Shanahan's unique ability to scheme up game plans to exploit certain players and matchups, and thus far the transition has been frustrating for all involved. The fact that only two position coaches in Atlanta's offense are in the same roles as a year ago further complicates things. While the Falcons made the determination that neither LaFleur or McDaniel was ready to assume coordinator or play calling roles -- and both are very young and it's understandable head coach Dan Quinn did not block them from leaving -- numerous advance scouts and execs have pointed to their departures as exasperating the offensive issues in Atlanta.

LaFleur was Shanahan's primary sounding board on the passing game; he was allowed to leave to join wunderkind Sean McVay, the youngest head coach in the NFL, in Los Angeles. They are doing tremendous work with Jared Goff and league sources anticipate McVay letting LaFleur leave in the offseason to become a play caller elsewhere, as McVay excels in that regard and retains those duties in LA. McDaniel is very close to Shanahan as he oversees the run game for him; he went with Shanahan to San Francisco.

"Losing Kyle was bad enough," said one exec who knows that Shanahan system very well, "but letting the other two walk is crushing them right now. Sark doesn't know what he's doing in that offense. He's running some of Kyle's plays, but he's not setting up things the way Kyle did. He's not establishing one thing early to then trick the defense into something else late. It's Kyle's plays but it's not Kyle's offense and they don't have any other coach in that building who knows the scheme with LaFleur and McDaniel gone, too."

One source with knowledge of the dynamics in Atlanta now mentioned, only somewhat tongue in cheek that, "they should let (back-up quarterback) Matt Schaub call the plays, because he was with Kyle forever and he understands it better than Matt Ryan does."

Another source directly connected to the Atlanta offense said: "That's not Kyle's offense they're running anymore. You can't just replace Kyle's brain, especially if you let his top run guy and top passing guy leave, too. They're running the ball well without him, but it's not those gashing runs in the outside zone. It's not the same script. It's some of the same plays, but it's out of sync."

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It was crazy seeing people try to justify not hiring Lafleur because of not having any playcalling experience. Common sense would be to at least take a chance with someone from Shanny’s coaching tree, especially someone that had good repoire with Matt. Bringing in someone that didn’t know the scheme never made a lick of sense.

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16 minutes ago, Jerz #Quinning said:

It was crazy seeing people try to justify not hiring Lafleur because of not having any playcalling experience. Common sense would be to at least take a chance with someone from Shanny’s coaching tree, especially someone that had good repoire with Matt. Bringing in someone that didn’t know the scheme never made a lick of sense.

Yup.  
 

Quinn was smart when hiring Shanny.  His reasoning: “Kyle was the toughest OC to match wits with when he was a DC.”

He then hires Sark who he never matched wits with on a Sunday and follows that up by hiring  the guy who Shanny replaced 

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2 minutes ago, Falcons In 2012 said:

Yup.  
 

Quinn was smart when hiring Shanny.  His reasoning: “Kyle was the toughest OC to match wits with when he was a DQ.”

He then hires Sark who he never matched wits with on a Sunday and follows that up by hiring  the guy who Shanny replaced 

I mean who gave Quinn the greenlight to hire freaking Steve Sarkisian to run one of the best offensive schemes in the NFL and then can him 2 years later when it was finally starting to come together? I feel like Quinn is a bit too optimistic which leads him to make terrible decisions thinking we have too much talent to fail.

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I always felt that letting LaFleur go was one huge mistake. Now with the way he has turned the Packers around coupled with the direction our Falcons are going it really hurts to even think what could of been. 

I never was bothered with Shannahan leaving, because no way was Quinn going anywhere after going to the SB and Shannahan was not going to wait around in what looked like at the time Quinn being here a very long time. But LaFleur just never made any sense, now it could end up haunting this team for some time (just like Farve and not running the ball in the 4th qtr in the SB after that amazing play Ryan & Julio made).

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Seeing the success the Packers are having with LaFleur and how bad they were under Mike McCarthy towards the end makes me really hope we don't bring in MM as our next coach. These coaches that work the field using zone blocking, roll outs, and working the field side to side vs vertical seem to be the new way, the offense we are running looks dated. Maty be why our OC has a different job every year.

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Look at all the good coaches that leave here and succeed. Shanny, Zimmer, LaFluer, on and on the list goes and this doesn't include front office people like Les Snead. This tells me the changes the Falcons need to make are up top with McKay and TD. We have too many good people that leave and succeed but cant succeed here because someone is getting in their way!

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5 hours ago, FalconsIn2012 said:

Falcons were unimpressed with Matt LaFleur’s work, and let him walk before hiring Steve Sarkisian

Now that the wheels have completely fallen off of the Falcons offense, we’ve been wondering why Dan Quinn didn’t just promote Matt LaFleur.

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.thefalcoholic.com/platform/amp/2017/10/23/16527676/falcons-were-unimpressed-with-matt-lafleurs-work-and-let-him-walk-before-hiring-steve-sarkisian

 

Yeah we have just made dumb decisions after dumb decision. I honestly don’t get why we take projects on in everything in this organization 

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This is all you all need to know.

 

"Losing Kyle was bad enough," said one exec who knows that Shanahan system very well, "but letting the other two walk is crushing them right now. Sark doesn't know what he's doing in that offense. He's running some of Kyle's plays, but he's not setting up things the way Kyle did. He's not establishing one thing early to then trick the defense into something else late. It's Kyle's plays but it's not Kyle's offense and they don't have any other coach in that building who knows the scheme with LaFleur and McDaniel gone, too."

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So someone posted an article this summer about 3 days with the Falcons training camp. It was a good article that got everyone excited about the season. There were a couple of things in that article that the team stated were the direction of the offense but that never seemed to materialize. One, they said the offense would be running the ball more and creating a more balanced attack. Second they said the passing game works with leading the receivers and expecting them to make plays with the ball.

Koetter's offense does neither of those things. What I want to know is did they expect Koetter to change his philosophy to do this? Koetter said nah or it was a trick to throw off other teams. 

Things we have seen this year, the offense works best when it is more balanced and when a short passing game relying on the receivers to make plays is run. 

It's so weird that the coaching staff worked so hard against their best interests and failed.

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