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Fixing the Falcons - sneak peak into offseason, free agency and draft

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6 minutes ago, kiwifalcon said:

No it’s not but there’s still alot of good pieces to work with and it may be advantageous for whoever comes in next to have the extra draft picks and high draft position.

I look at Julio Jones right now and to me he’s been under used all **** season.

Frees been asked to find his yards snide when we’ve drafted a big back who can’t even make game day roster.

Deion Jones has disappeared 

Jarrett been asked to fight doubles all game it’s just madness what these coaches are doing

yes the coaching has been embarrasingly bad.   Baldy and others are breaking down Falcons game film on offense and defense and showing how the players are so out of position and not sound in assignments that they are defeated before the hike of the ball.

Sure they players are a huge part of it but you cannot have coaching this bad and this lack of discipline and I think "Coach Bro" doesn't have enough accountability baked into his regime.

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6 minutes ago, Dr Long Shot said:

That's the current pace of his production. Does math scare you?

regression to the norm.   Wanna make a bet on your math projection?

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How come no one in any of these rebuild threads ever mentions the terrible scouting department we have at Flowery branch. Does everyone not realize our Director of Scouting, the main guy, the top cheese, came from CLEVELAND? Freaking loserville and the next four in line all behind him came from Washington, Detroit, Tampa Bay, and Chicago, perinnial LOSER teams. yes the coach has to go, but there are a lot of UPPER TIER MANAGEMENT jobs that need to go to, Steve Sabo, Joel Collier, Ruston Webster, and Phil Emry all need to kick the bricks. These dudes have no track record of success in the past and most of these dudes have been here 5 years+ so yes fire Quinn, fire TD but why should these dudes get a pass? Seriously. Time for some front office heads to roll!. Have you seen our o-line? our d-line? Talentless. 

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12 hours ago, FalconsIn2012 said:

Solid coaching hires across the board and we have the talent to win in 2020.  It’s not for lack of talent.  We need depth and a new voice

A really good coach and a really good scheme would negate having to overpay & overplay talent honestly. This is an AB thing at the end of the day. He may be the ultimate cog in this entire process.

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2 hours ago, Refried Beans said:

How come no one in any of these rebuild threads ever mentions the terrible scouting department we have at Flowery branch. Does everyone not realize our Director of Scouting, the main guy, the top cheese, came from CLEVELAND? Freaking loserville and the next four in line all behind him came from Washington, Detroit, Tampa Bay, and Chicago, perinnial LOSER teams. yes the coach has to go, but there are a lot of UPPER TIER MANAGEMENT jobs that need to go to, Steve Sabo, Joel Collier, Ruston Webster, and Phil Emry all need to kick the bricks. These dudes have no track record of success in the past and most of these dudes have been here 5 years+ so yes fire Quinn, fire TD but why should these dudes get a pass? Seriously. Time for some front office heads to roll!. Have you seen our o-line? our d-line? Talentless. 

Talentless oline even though Alex Mack’s going to the HoF.Matthews isn’t bad and your calling out McGary and Lindstrom after 5 minutes.

Dlines led by Jarrett but he’s talentless even though our dumb fark coaches have our best gap penetrator fighting doubles all game or oline wise leaving guys like McGary Schweitzer and co 1 on 1 with opponents best pass rushers.

I don’t mind your narrative but for fark sake tell the whole story don’t just make **** up like the other stuff isn’t happening.

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8 hours ago, Dr Long Shot said:

Ridley and Sanu have been mostly single covered all year long and Rids hasn't produced. How do you think he'll perform when he becomes our only other passing option outside of Julio? Our offense isn't going to be a factor if all we have is Julio double teamed and Ridley who has been looking more and more like a bust on the other side failing to beat single coverage. Hooper has been the hardest working Falcon on offense the last three years and has seen his production take a huge leap every season. This year he has a very good chance at leading all NFL tight ends in TDs and yards, and is currently the top rated Tight End per PFF. He is also just turning 25 and has had a completely clean bill of health. He isn't the injury risk Freeman was. The only way you even entertain passing on extending Hoop is if Rid completely balls out in the second half of the season. Otherwise it's completely stupid. 

For a team with holes up and down the roster creating another hole to fill makes no sense whatsoever. The notion that it's easy to find a tight end that produces 1,200 yards and 8+ TDs is absurd, no matter how many of those yards are garbage stats or a product of double teamed wide receiver. Tony G played on a team with 2 star wide-outs who both drew double coverage and didn't get near those numbers,  so let's not act like we are going to plug in the guy who barely made the team this year and see a third of that production, because it's not going to happen. 

It's the play caller.

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On 10/21/2019 at 6:50 PM, g-dawg said:

OK, I thought I would tackle this and didn't  realize how hard this would be - gonna be dayum hard!!! - so I'm already going to fall short and you can give me an "F" or a an "Incomplete" grade or whatever.    Looking at the Falcons, they are in really bad shape as their two biggest stars are still very good but aging.   Matt will be 35 years old next year and likely has 4-5 more good years left but Julio will be 31 years old next year with likely 2 more elite years left and then his decline.   Those two guys best years left will be 2020 and 2021 but the rest of the roster is a huge mess and looks like it will take longer than two years to get it back up to championship caliber.   On top of this, we figure to start over w/ a new head coach and possibly a new GM.   Not pretty but it is what it is and you gotta start where you start.

Obviously there are decisions Arthur has to make with Dan Quinn and Thomas Dimitroff first.   My biggest concern is Arthur will go for the "Quick Fix" with coaching and roster moves - the longer you try to hang on and improve on a flawed roster, the longer it will ultimately take to get to where you want to go.

As I sit here typing this, I'm overwhelmed with the thought that I want to fix this thing quickly but it's not going to happen unless we just start hitting at an abnormally high rate on draft picks and lower to mid tier free agent signings and discover absolute studs in college free agency - just not likely but one can dream.

COACH / GM:

GM - While I have both been a fanboy and a critic of Thomas Dimitroff in his 12 year history of the Falcons, this just feels like the time to make a break.   Having said that, there is no question Dimitroff's tenure has been the best of any GM in Falcons history - granted a low bar, but no one close to what he has done so I will tip my cap to him on the way out.   Having said that, he just has never gotten the lines of scrimmage fixed - remains to be seen if the Lindstrom/McGary picks will work out.   McGary has struggled and Lindstrom almost never got started.  Both were high picks so if they turn out, Dimitroff's history here will look even better and will paper over a hole in his resume'.

I won't throw out specific names at you as it is rather early in the process - but desire a GM that wants to build a franchise from the Lines of Scrimmage first - so NFL front offices like the Ravens, Steelers, Patriots, Colts(now) - teams like that that value winning the lines of scrimmage.   Looking for GM candidate who has that kind of pedigree.

COACH - Again, I don't have a specific candidate in mind just yet.  I do feel like getting an offensive minded head coach who can be paired w/ a wily vet defensive coordinator seems to work well.  Obviously everyone in NFL looking to start over are trying to find their pair of Sean McVay/Wade Phillips type of pairing.

Back to the analysis:

QB - Matt Ryan(34yrs old) - looking at SportsTrac, we are married to him for 2020 and 2021 seasons.   We can move on from him in 2022 and not take a cap hit.   While I would have no plans to move on from Matt now, if something happened and Falcons were this bad again in 2021 or 2022 and there was a legit bonafide stud (i.e.  Trevor Lawrence or possibly Justin Fields) and Falcons had #1 or #2 pick, I wouldn't hesitate to grab a player like that - remember, if we are in that position, means we had yet another colossal failure of a season.    Again, I'm not predicting this will happen nor saying Matt Ryan shouldn't be a Falcon going forward - just saying that the window will open in those years to at least consider the possibility.    This "Falcon for Life" bullsheot has to end - that is a dumb way to run a franchise.   Players greater than Matt Ryan and Julio Jones left there teams to finish out their careers -  Joe Montana and Jerry Rice to name a few.

WR - Julio Jones (30yrs old)  -  with the new contract extension, which was a mistake, Falcons are married to Julio for 2020, 2021 and 2022.    We had Julio locked up for two more years after this year before the extension.   Arthur felt compelled to give the extension - obviously Julio may be the best player in Falcons history and was underpaid but not at the time he was given almost the perfect contract in terms of length of years.   That contract we probably lose Julio a year too early but the new one is probably a few years too late.

 

The rest of the roster is not good enough to borrow from tomorrow's future to try and prop up this franchise for 2020 and 2021.  I wouldn't do it.  I don't even see that many valuable pieces to trade off.  

Other Moves:

Let Walk:

Austin Hooper, TE - I know this one won't be popular but I'm not gonna "G up" Hooper just because he has some nice stats.  I hate to lose him but he will likely garner a contract worth more than he would benefit the Falcons - will be one of those bad contracts that won't age well.    Falcons already have a potential cheap replacement on the roster in Jaedyn Graham.   Bite the bullet and let him go - hopefully he gets enough contract monies that Falcons garner a 4th round comp. pick.

Keanu Neal, SS - I was considering letting Neal walk BEFORE he had his 2nd season-ending injury.   Simply put, bone-crushing and head knocking strong safeties are being legislated out of the NFL.  I had already seen 3-4 legal hits that Neal put on opposing receivers and running backs that were flagged because they "looked bad".    Neal wasn't one dimensional but wasn't great at coverage and you throw in the injuries and cost of re-signing and it just isn't worth it for a team that cannot take on anymore bad contracts.

Vic Beasley, DE - goes w/o saying - not wasting my breath here.

DeVondre Campbell, OLB - same here.   Campbell started his career w/ all kinds of promise but just regressed badly the last two years.  If he wanted to sign some type of 1-year deal to try and resuscitate his value I could be convinced but there would be no promises he would get his starter position back.

 

CUT:

Mohamad Sanu, WR - not really anything Sanu has done wrong but w/ emergence of Calvin Ridley and Justin Gage proving worthy of a bigger role, just an easy place to save money.

DeVonta Freeman, RB - just not a difference maker anymore and salary can no longer be justified.   Average back that should be making 1/2 what he is and the #2 tandem back on a better team than Falcons.

Matt Schaub, QB - another place to save money for an aging vet - time for Kent Benkirk to get his shot.

Ty Sambrailo, OT - another 3 year deal that was really a one year deal. buh-bye

Desmond Trufant, CB - while Trufant can still pay and Falcons don't really save much against the cap by cutting him - just time for a mediocre cover corner to not get paid $11mm of Arthur's money.

I believe all these moves only save about $12mm against the cap but it is just time to clean up the books going forward of underperforming players when compared to salaries.  Should be able to develop guys on roster and/or bring in guys from outside for fraction of cost that will do just as good or better.

 

NFL Free Agency - the GM just needs to turn his phone off the first week in free agency due to Falcons in salary cap hades - after that, look for undervalued guys that fit whatever the coaches system is.  Probably looking mostly at corners, safeties and linebackers.

 

NFL Draft -   Right now I believe today the Falcons would draft #4 overall.   If first two picks in draft are QBs, Falcons will have a chance to maybe get the best player in the draft at #3 or #4 overall.  Hopefully the Falcons can get the best player w/o having to trade up.   While making no attempt to tank - players coming off injury should not be rushed back in a season that is over.   I'm talking about Matt Ryan and Chris Lindstrom specifically.    Look at Matt Ryan - he got hit  11 times against the Rams - would hate to see him come back and get a more serious injury than the ankle sprain he got yesterday.

Falcons need difference makers on both sides of the lines of scrimmage.   The very best available.   They will also likely need corners as well but Kendall Sheffield and Jordan Miller should get lots of plays the rest of the season to find out what we have in them - if they get burnt like my wife's toast - sobeit.

if you can get this 6'5", 265lb monster that can rush the passer or blow up running plays - Chase Young, DE - Ohio State - then do it!!!!

Image result for chase young ohio state

 

Falcons need to get BIGGER and STRONGER.    YES, you want fast players but you want fast players that have sand in their pants.   You want to hold-up  at the POA in the run defense game and you want guys that can push the pocket in the passrush.     Passrushers, Quick/Stout DTs (i.e. Derrick Brown) and cornerbacks are what we need most.   Need some diamond in the rough offensive linemen as well.

Get better at the POA and the corners will start looking better no matter what their talent level.   Build from front to back, not back to front.

 

SUMMARY:     Looking at who we let go, it is fair to say, you are going to make us worse, not better - well, I would first say - we cannot be any worse than we are now.    There will always be some players that will come out of the cornfield straight into a bigger role than we all think.   When opportunity presents itself - someone will step through the door and seize it.

I believe the right GM with an eye for the lines of scrimmage could perhaps aid the lines of scrimmage in his first year or two in targeted/cheap free agency.     I don't see a quick fix to make Falcons a SB contender again.   Believe you are looking at 1 year to be competitive, 2 years to contend for playoffs and then 3 years of good moves to be a SB contender.    Will Matt and Julio still be good then?  That is the question.

You need to update your post as Sanu was just traded.

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This season may suck, but one thing is for sure the off-season is going to be very interested.

  • New HC, GM, OC & DC
  • Salary cap ****
  • Top 5 draft pick
  • Two 2nd round picks
  • New philosophies from the top down and on both sides of the football

 

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