Vic trade rumor news

[blkbigdog35 8,535]

 

[Ergo Proxy 15,944]

Raiders already traded a failed 1st rounder CB to the Texans for a 3rd today...

[wartownfalcon 1,432]

Bye Vicky!!! 

[JD dirtybird21 14,236]

Maybe they'll give us a 2nd.....yea right

[ya_boi_j 47,709]

See ya

[Jesus 18,834]

If he is traded, I think we will be very surprised as to what he nets. Teams trading mid season tend to be more desperate than you think.

[jgsbirds1 48]

just let them have him and campbell too!!!  addition by subtraction!

 

[PeytonMannings Forehead 23,744]

Doesn't seem like a Paul Guenther kind of guy, but, hey, if they're sucker enough to do it.

[NWFALCON 2,134]

Gruden loved him when he would work our games as a commentator. 

[athell 23,686]

2 minutes ago, Jesus said:

If he is traded, I think we will be very surprised as to what he nets. Teams trading mid season tend to be more desperate than you think.

Just depends on the demand.  Only way we see solid return on any of these players is if there is significant interest in multiple teams.  We suck.  Teams know we suck.  You only win trades while operating from positions of power, of which we have none.  It's not like any of these guys, outside of like Grady, are flashing on a terrible defense.  They are all terrible.

[blkbigdog35 8,535]

1 minute ago, athell said:

Just depends on the demand.  Only way we see solid return on any of these players is if there is significant interest in multiple teams.  We suck.  Teams know we suck.  You only win trades while operating from positions of power, of which we have none.  It's not like any of these guys, outside of like Grady, are flashing on a terrible defense.  They are all terrible.

Very good post bro.  

[wartownfalcon 1,432]

2 minutes ago, athell said:

Just depends on the demand.  Only way we see solid return on any of these players is if there is significant interest in multiple teams.  We suck.  Teams know we suck.  You only win trades while operating from positions of power, of which we have none.  It's not like any of these guys, outside of like Grady, are flashing on a terrible defense.  They are all terrible.

Unless other teams think Quinn is the problem like everyone here does

Edited October 21 by wartownfalcon

[Bunchy Carter 2,463]

9 minutes ago, Ergo Proxy said:

Raiders already traded a failed 1st rounder CB to the Texans for a 3rd today...

Wish we'd traded them Trufant

[shock 2,037]

Raiders just got an extra 2020 3rd round pick, so maybe they’d be more apt to part with their 3rd round pick, or maybe even a 2nd. I’d take either of those deals in a heart beat. 

[Ergo Proxy 15,944]

Just now, Bunchy Carter said:

Wish we'd traded them Trufant

Eh, he isn’t on a mega contract so they get a former 1st this year and next year...maybe 2 more years if the option is still; erm...an option?

[athell 23,686]

Just now, wartownfalcon said:

Unless everyone else thinks Quinn is the problem like everyone here does

Oh I'm sure they do...but that's our problem not theirs.  Bottom line is this isn't MLB.  We aren't going to get this collection of picks/young players in return for our rejects.  Teams are going to look to float the lowest picks possible for our guys.  I feel like people equate draft position to trade value and it just doesn't correlate.

[Sun Tzu 7 11,830]

So unless I missed something where does it say the Raiders are interested in Vic Beasley?

I mean we all agree he's not that great.

Why would a team want to trade for a pass rusher that doesn't produce pressures or get sacks?

You can't sell something when no one is buying.

I could see the Falcons getting something for McKinnley rather than Beasley.

If you thought to yourself 'No don't trade McKinnley because....'

That's why teams won't want Beasley.

[Atl Falcon 1,745]

I’d say even take a 8th round draft choice 

[Jesus 18,834]

4 minutes ago, athell said:

Just depends on the demand.  Only way we see solid return on any of these players is if there is significant interest in multiple teams.  We suck.  Teams know we suck.  You only win trades while operating from positions of power, of which we have none.  It's not like any of these guys, outside of like Grady, are flashing on a terrible defense.  They are all terrible.

You win these kinds of trades depending on how well you draft when the pick comes due. Demand doesn't really matter, because teams looking to trade right now think they are that one player away from winning it all. They are desperate. As for the sucking thing, they don't care about that. They see that one player that can save them. Vic will probably do well in the right system, he has before.

[PeytonMannings Forehead 23,744]

1 minute ago, Sun Tzu 7 said:

So unless I missed something where does it say the Raiders are interested in Vic Beasley?

I mean we all agree he's not that great.

Why would a team want to trade for a pass rusher that doesn't produce pressures or get sacks?

 

He's not a linebacker and a pass rusher in name only.  

Now maybe if Al was still alive and saw his 40 time we'd have something.

[ATLFalcon36 2,125]

I traded VB44 and Campbell to the raiders in Madden, then the next season DQ got hired as the Raiders coach and they demolished me 40-8 with those players having 2 sacks and 2 ints respectively... Even in Madden the Falcons falcon...

[athell 23,686]

Just now, Jesus said:

You win these kinds of trades depending on how well you draft when the pick comes due. Demand doesn't really matter, because teams looking to trade right now think they are that one player away from winning it all. They are desperate. As for the sucking thing, they don't care about that. They see that one player that can save them. Vic will probably do well in the right system, he has before.

I agree with you, just saying that I am already seeing posts about 2nd rounders...so when we inevitably net a 5th rounder for Vic people are going to lose their crap here.

[athell 23,686]

Just now, ATLFalcon36 said:

I traded VB44 and Campbell to the raiders in Madden, then the next season DQ got hired as the Raiders coach and they demolished me 40-8 with those players having 2 sacks and 2 ints respectively... Even in Madden the Falcons falcon...

This is actually hilarious lol

[NWFALCON 2,134]

Just now, ATLFalcon36 said:

I traded VB44 and Campbell to the raiders in Madden, then the next season DQ got hired as the Raiders coach and they demolished me 40-8 with those players having 2 sacks and 2 ints respectively... Even in Madden the Falcons falcon...

Artificial intelligence has come a long way. 

[Jesus 18,834]

Just now, athell said:

I agree with you, just saying that I am already seeing posts about 2nd rounders...so when we inevitably net a 5th rounder for Vic people are going to lose their crap here.

They lose their crap over everything. Got to wonder after the first 6 weeks of this season, do they have any crap left?