PeytonMannings Forehead 27,369 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 At least he’s acknowledging it and not trying to make excuses. Ergo Proxy, JDaveG, Cole World and 4 others 7 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
me4falcons 648 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 This is not all on vic, we have multiple situations and I believe we are playing hard but lack talent on def. Cole World 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
athell 30,389 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 No ill will towards Vic, takes a man to own his mistakes. That said, I place Vic's failures 50/50 on Quinn as well. I think Vic in the right situation may actually be more than a JAG in this league. Freeney did more for Vic in 1 season than Quinn could do in 5. Let that sink in. God speed, Vic. I wasn't always your biggest fan on the field, I questioned you many a time, but your coach did you zero favors during your time here. Boise Falcon Fan, mqg96, CTann and 4 others 7 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ya_boi_j 64,069 Posted October 21, 2019 Author Share Posted October 21, 2019 1 minute ago, athell said: No ill will towards Vic, takes a man to own his mistakes. That said, I place Vic's failures 50/50 on Quinn as well. I think Vic in the right situation may actually be more than a JAG in this league. Freeney did more for Vic in 1 season than Quinn could do in 5. Let that sink in. God speed, Vic. I wasn't always your biggest fan on the field, I questioned you many a time, but your coach did you zero favors during your time here. It's actually an issue for the entire defense. The ONLY 2 players on defense that had a mentor outside of Vic were Alford and Trufant. Outside of those 3 everyone else had to learn the game through coaching, not an established veteran. Cole World, athell and mqg96 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
octoslash 18,044 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 I bet he doesn't feel bad enough to return a portion of the 13 million bucks he took the team for this year. Boise Falcon Fan, DriveHomeSafelyAtlantaWins and Cole World 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
athell 30,389 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 Just now, ya_boi_j said: It's actually an issue for the entire defense. The ONLY 2 players on defense that had a mentor outside of Vic were Alford and Trufant. Outside of those 3 everyone else had to learn the game through coaching, not an established veteran. Yup. Talent will only take you so far. This league is built on established veterans and developing young players. We are operating with 1 hand behind our backs... ya_boi_j and Cole World 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
athell 30,389 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 1 minute ago, octoslash said: I bet he doesn't feel bad enough to return a portion of the 13 million bucks he took the team for this year. I wouldn't either. Not his fault he got paid. JSteele1994, Cole World and rounz 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
octoslash 18,044 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 Just now, athell said: I wouldn't either. Not his fault he got paid. Neither would I. I'm just adding an observation. Cole World and athell 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ya_boi_j 64,069 Posted October 21, 2019 Author Share Posted October 21, 2019 3 minutes ago, athell said: Yup. Talent will only take you so far. This league is built on established veterans and developing young players. We are operating with 1 hand behind our backs... Yeah the only time true veteran presence isn't needed is when you actually have a good head coach and staff at the helm to coach them up. I can only think of a few around the league right now but none better than that one guy up north athell 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SirCzah 2,459 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 Vic using the word execute twice in one quote addressing his lack of productivity is what some would call "being a **** tease." Quote Link to post Share on other sites
athell 30,389 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 18 minutes ago, octoslash said: Neither would I. I'm just adding an observation. Gotcha. All good! 18 minutes ago, ya_boi_j said: Yeah the only time true veteran presence isn't needed is when you actually have a good head coach and staff at the helm to coach them up. I can only think of a few around the league right now but none better than that one guy up north Thank you for not bringing up his name or their name...namaste! ya_boi_j 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ya_boi_j 64,069 Posted October 21, 2019 Author Share Posted October 21, 2019 21 minutes ago, athell said: Gotcha. All good! Thank you for not bringing up his name or their name...namaste! lol Aye I get annoyed everytime I see the names mentioned. I respect the game. athell 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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HEIST 5,254 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 Yesterday was the first time in a while that I felt like Vic actually cares. He just sucks, ah well. DriveHomeSafelyAtlantaWins 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TNFalcon1 859 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 Great he owned up to failing, good for him. He hasn't owned up to the fact that he has had every opportunity to work on his craft and has NOT. He had opportunities to train in the off season with outside pass rush trainers and didn't do it. He had opportunities to get extra work with his own coaches before TC and didn't do it. He has known he needed to develop pass rush moves and counter moves for going on 5 YEARS and he has NOT. There is something to be said for work ethic and he does not have it when it comes to improving himself in football. This is 100% on Beasley in my eyes. DriveHomeSafelyAtlantaWins 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TNFalcon1 859 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 8 minutes ago, HEIST said: Yesterday was the first time in a while that I felt like Vic actually cares. He just sucks, ah well. If he cared there would be more effort. He is marshmallow soft and his head is elsewhere other than football. DriveHomeSafelyAtlantaWins 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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