KCartledge85 Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 Just wanted to ask this question. Our defense is absolutely terrible, so turnovers are absolutely on a premium. I haven’t checked the stats, but so believe Kazee had more INTs last season than Rico has had in his career. Why isn’t Kazee playing FS? mtldirtybird 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-train Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 There was an interview last year with Kazee & he said something along the lines of how he kinda hated playing safety, called it "boring sitting back there all the time", and said he'd far prefer playing CB from now on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtldirtybird Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 11 minutes ago, k-train said: There was an interview last year with Kazee & he said something along the lines of how he kinda hated playing safety, called it "boring sitting back there all the time", and said he'd far prefer playing CB from now on. Who cares what he wants. I'm sure winning games and intercepting the ball is a lot less boring than being run over in the slot all game, never touching the ball and losing. Realsurfin, KRUNKuno, Captain Falcon and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ergo Proxy Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 3 minutes ago, mtldirtybird said: Who cares what he wants. I'm sure winning games and intercepting the ball is a lot less boring than being run over in the slot all game, never touching the ball and losing. Only, we lost last year with him at FS and he missed tackles and let big plays happen...his INTs were in large part to try to make up for his bad play. Now, can he improve at the position? Sure. Maybe he moves over, but we needed a slot CB with Poole leaving. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Falcon Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 43 minutes ago, mtldirtybird said: Who cares what he wants. I'm sure winning games and intercepting the ball is a lot less boring than being run over in the slot all game, never touching the ball and losing. Truer words were never spoken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faithful Falcon Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 1 hour ago, KCartledge85 said: Just wanted to ask this question. Our defense is absolutely terrible, so turnovers are absolutely on a premium. I haven’t checked the stats, but so believe Kazee had more INTs last season than Rico has had in his career. Why isn’t Kazee playing FS? Because he's busy getting beat in his current position. NeonDeion 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osiruz Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 Because he is even worse at FS than he is at NCB. 5 runs went for tds last year because of his missed tackles. He has also frequently caught in the wrong place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRUNKuno Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 1 hour ago, mtldirtybird said: Who cares what he wants. I'm sure winning games and intercepting the ball is a lot less boring than being run over in the slot all game, never touching the ball and losing. I’ve been asking this question since the beginning of the year. Kazee was a playmaker back there to the tune of being tied for the league lead in INTs. He’s an NFL safety. Not a corner. I even made the case of playing Neal at LB, Allen at SS and Kazee at FS. But I’m not the coach of this dumb *** team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRUNKuno Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 1 hour ago, Ergo Proxy said: Only, we lost last year with him at FS and he missed tackles and let big plays happen...his INTs were in large part to try to make up for his bad play. Now, can he improve at the position? Sure. Maybe he moves over, but we needed a slot CB with Poole leaving. Kazee was a rookie. It’s safe to say he was going to have some growing pains, but he made up for it greatly in his playmaking ability back there. This year you guys have your sacred cow Ricardo Allen back there and he hasn’t done anything that Kazee can’t do back there. For all the talk about him being cerebral and getting guys into place, it definitely hasn’t reaped any benefits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ergo Proxy Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 1 minute ago, KRUNKuno said: Kazee was a rookie. It’s safe to say he was going to have some growing pains, but he made up for it greatly in his playmaking ability back there. This year you guys have your sacred cow Ricardo Allen back there and he hasn’t done anything that Kazee can’t do back there. For all the talk about him being cerebral and getting guys into place, it definitely hasn’t reaped any benefits. He wasn’t a rookie. He had way more mistakes than INTs. Nothing to do with Allen. NeonDeion 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconAge Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 14 minutes ago, Ergo Proxy said: He wasn’t a rookie. He had way more mistakes than INTs. Nothing to do with Allen. But it was his first year at that position and as a starter Ergo Proxy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ergo Proxy Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 41 minutes ago, FalconAge said: But it was his first year at that position and as a starter True. I also indicated in my first post that maybe he goes back to FS and improves, but we needed a Slot CB with Poole leaving... Teams are attacking us all over the place as it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRUNKuno Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 1 hour ago, Ergo Proxy said: He wasn’t a rookie. He had way more mistakes than INTs. Nothing to do with Allen. Rookie at the position and getting live action playing time. BTW we could use some of those interceptions this year. I’m all about putting guys in position to make plays. Kazee makes plays at safety. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobis_Ghost Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 Put trufant at FS and Kazee the cover guy. Worked for Antrell Rolle in NY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ergo Proxy Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 7 minutes ago, KRUNKuno said: Rookie at the position and getting live action playing time. BTW we could use some of those interceptions this year. I’m all about putting guys in position to make plays. Kazee makes plays at safety. He allows more than Allen. That’s why he got some of those INTs. We’ve had INT FS here before that were terrible at the position itself. FS doesn’t mean you can misread what the offense is trying to do and get your CBs or seams hung out to dry. He also had too many missed tackles. Even if he got 10 INTs, what good does it do if it’s with double the big plays caused by the FS not doing his job? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-train Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 2 hours ago, Ergo Proxy said: He allows more than Allen. That’s why he got some of those INTs. We’ve had INT FS here before that were terrible at the position itself. FS doesn’t mean you can misread what the offense is trying to do and get your CBs or seams hung out to dry. He also had too many missed tackles. Even if he got 10 INTs, what good does it do if it’s with double the big plays caused by the FS not doing his job? Exactly. For every play Kazee made, he gave one up as well. What'd Kazee have last year, 7 INTs? Big deal. Thomas Decoud had 6 one year & made the Pro Bowl. Did that make him the answer at FS? Nope. Ergo Proxy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRUNKuno Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 30 minutes ago, k-train said: Exactly. For every play Kazee made, he gave one up as well. What'd Kazee have last year, 7 INTs? Big deal. Thomas Decoud had 6 one year & made the Pro Bowl. Did that make him the answer at FS? Nope. 3 hours ago, Ergo Proxy said: He allows more than Allen. That’s why he got some of those INTs. We’ve had INT FS here before that were terrible at the position itself. FS doesn’t mean you can misread what the offense is trying to do and get your CBs or seams hung out to dry. He also had too many missed tackles. Even if he got 10 INTs, what good does it do if it’s with double the big plays caused by the FS not doing his job? These takes are why we’re in the position we’re in now. A defense full of players that can’t make plays. One that values pressures over sacks. One that values lining up correctly over getting turnovers. One that would rather not give up a big play than to go get the ball. Kazee was thrown into the fire last year and performed well enough to lead the league in INTs. He was a bright spot. I’m sure if he had a consecutive year at the position those “big plays” that he gave up would’ve lessened. Now he’s in a position where he can’t make plays. This nickel corner BS is not working for him. He’s an NFL safety regardless of what he says he is. Play him where he is most effective. FalconAge and Mojojojo 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nino11 Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 Gotta stop watching the stat sheet and actually watch the game. Rico is a better Free safety then Kazee. And I want Kazee on the field because he can make plays. But not at free safety. NeonDeion, k-train and Ergo Proxy 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunchy Carter Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 12 hours ago, k-train said: There was an interview last year with Kazee & he said something along the lines of how he kinda hated playing safety, called it "boring sitting back there all the time", and said he'd far prefer playing CB from now on. I'd bet that he was only saying that to not rock the boat. He knew Neal and Allen were returning and wanted to come across as a team first guy. Also wanted to solidify his imagined versatility. He ALSO said he was irritated that he wasn't selected to the probowl. I'm never going to believe he had his most productive season so far even WITH the ups and downs and was "bored." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monolith2001 Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 12 hours ago, k-train said: There was an interview last year with Kazee & he said something along the lines of how he kinda hated playing safety, called it "boring sitting back there all the time", and said he'd far prefer playing CB from now on. I have a really bad habit of consuming a ton of media and I never saw such a quote from him. Kazee is really humble and hard to imagine him saying such...not saying he didn't but fake news is a thing. Can you provide a link to that article/interview? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRUNKuno Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 3 hours ago, Nino11 said: Gotta stop watching the stat sheet and actually watch the game. Rico is a better Free safety then Kazee. And I want Kazee on the field because he can make plays. But not at free safety. Im the last to look at stats. Show me a guy that can make plays and I’m more sold than anything. Kazee is better at safety than corner. We’re getting 0 from him at corner. At least he produced at safety and would’ve only gained more experience and gotten better. Guess he’s just another failed DQ draft pick since he sucks at safety according to y’all and clearly is out of place at corner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ergo Proxy Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 Stop pretending Kazee didn’t allow more plays; TDs, than INTs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thofin21 Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 Excellent question. Probably because Quinn is not who we thought he was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nino11 Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 2 hours ago, KRUNKuno said: Im the last to look at stats. Show me a guy that can make plays and I’m more sold than anything. Kazee is better at safety than corner. We’re getting 0 from him at corner. At least he produced at safety and would’ve only gained more experience and gotten better. Guess he’s just another failed DQ draft pick since he sucks at safety according to y’all and clearly is out of place at corner. Idk who said he sucks. I said he isn’t better then Rico at Safety. Doesn’t mean he sucks. He made some plays at Safety but the nature of the Free safety is to be the last line of defense. Rico is more solid in that regard. I think he’s fine at nickel. Get a pass rush they lock ten times better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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