Ergo Proxy 26,069 Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 (edited) 31 minutes ago, Vandy said: So you don’t Think all that reeks of a possible coaching problem? who kept trotting Beasley/Riley/Richards out there last year? You guys blamed Manual for all that, but he’s gone. So now it’s the ‘ghost of manual’ sending Beasley/Ish/Campbell out there every week? Some of this is just me messin’ Ergo. You’re my guy. But I do feel you’re in denial if you don’t see Quinn as a big part of the current problem. Never said he wasn’t… If our coverages were better maybe we see something and I agree on not playing Neasman. We were hitched to Beasley either way. Manuel was never gonna be the solution if players can’t be coached properly. I have always maintained that Quinn would eventually get fired without results, even if I think certain players would do better if their “brother“ was doing his job... You can’t say it’s all on Quinn or it’s not on Quinn and ignore these players. These are professionals. That said, even Sark was a good portion of the 2017 issues with the offense and in particular in the red zone. What’s funny about all that is even Ryan had a good year but his stats were down. Now, all you hear is Matt is a garbage stats quarterback. He can’t win for losing; literally! So yeah maybe coaching ultimately is what will fix this and we have a quick rebound. Edited October 19, 2019 by Ergo Proxy Vandy 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Vandy 39,768 Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 11 minutes ago, Ergo Proxy said: Never said he wasn’t… If our coverages were better maybe we see something and I agree on not playing Neasman. We were hitched to Beasley either way. Manuel was never gonna be the solution if players can’t be coached properly. I have always maintained that Quinn would eventually get fired without results, even if I think certain players would do better if their “brother“ was doing his job... You can’t say it’s all on Quinn or it’s not on Quinn and ignore these players. These are professionals. That said, even Sark was a good portion of the 2017 issues with the offense and in particular in the red zone. What’s funny about all that is even Ryan had a good year but his stats were down. Now, all you hear is Matt is a garbage stats quarterback. He can’t win for losing; literally! So yeah maybe coaching ultimately is what will fix this and we have a quick rebound. Quinn was given every opp to fix the defense, 5 years and counting and here we are.....these are his players, and his team. I have thought for some time the HC was a bigger problem than you or most of board did. This year confirmed it. Ergo Proxy and Flying Falcon 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ergo Proxy 26,069 Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 5 minutes ago, Vandy said: Quinn was given every opp to fix it, 5 years and counting and here we are.....these are his players, and his team. I have thought for some time the HC was a big problem. This year confirmed it. Yep. The stupid thing is we were probably a better team in 2017 without all the overturn at offensive coordinator PLUS Kyle’s staff. Tired of these defensive head coaches that leave instability at OC while Matt gets them promoted. Flying Falcon and Vandy 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ergo Proxy 26,069 Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 Quinn appears to be just another guy like Mularkey & Koetter: Leave a good unit that was full of reliable players and become head coach of another team without as much talent. Kyle at least has been able to identify enough talent to keep his offense running at a good clip out in San Francisco. The difference? John Lynch knows defense as a GM! Part of our problem is definitely personnel... Flying Falcon, Vandy and vitaman 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
⚡Slumerican⚡ 5,787 Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 Scott Pioli leaving definitely hurt the Falcons, but i dont blame him.. He knew what was coming. Flying Falcon and vitaman 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
blizzard_falcon 2,446 Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 The sad thing is that there is going to be a GM / coach who really wanted him back in 2015, and they'll wind up giving us a 3rd round pick because they think Beasley still has untapped potential. Flying Falcon 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ya_boi_j 67,628 Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 Flying Falcon 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BUBBASBEANS 1,163 Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 We’d have to pay someone to take him. Seriously! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Flying Falcon 9,264 Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 22 hours ago, Vandy said: Quinn was given every opp to fix the defense, 5 years and counting and here we are.....these are his players, and his team. I have thought for some time the HC was a bigger problem than you or most of board did. This year confirmed it. Yep. Quinn is an imposter. Vandy 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Malachore 9,494 Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 21 hours ago, virginiafalcon said: The sad thing is that there is going to be a GM / coach who really wanted him back in 2015, and they'll wind up giving us a 3rd round pick because they think Beasley still has untapped potential. Please explain to me how that's sad. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
2_legit_2_legit_2_quit 2,055 Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 Nobody wants Beasley. Nobody. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
wartownfalcon 2,246 Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 Beasley is coverage.... Flying Falcon 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Flying Falcon 9,264 Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 36 minutes ago, ya_boi_j said: LOL!!!!! Get rid of him!!! ya_boi_j 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
uk falcs fan 211 Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 8 minutes ago, 2_legit_2_legit_2_quit said: Nobody wants Beasley. Nobody. Sure, he’s poor against the run and can’t pressure the QB, but someone must be in the market for a DE who you can drop into coverage. Thats at the top of every DC’s wish list! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DirtyBird7000k 211 Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 On 10/18/2019 at 4:52 PM, Mescalito said: What could we possibly get for him? A 7th maybe? He’s not worth a draft pick? We might get a bag of Tom Brady special inflated balls signed by Tom Brady himself? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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