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31 minutes ago, Vandy said:

So you don’t Think all that reeks of a possible coaching problem? :ninja:

who kept trotting Beasley/Riley/Richards out there last year? You guys blamed Manual for all that, but he’s gone. So now it’s the ‘ghost of manual’ sending Beasley/Ish/Campbell out there every week? 
 

Some of this is just me messin’ Ergo. You’re my guy. But I do feel you’re in denial if you don’t see Quinn as a big part of the current problem. 

Never said he wasn’t… 

If our coverages were better maybe we see something and I agree on not playing Neasman.

We were hitched to Beasley either way. 

Manuel  was never gonna be the solution if players can’t be coached properly.

I have always maintained that Quinn would eventually get fired without results, even if I think certain players would do better if their “brother“ was doing his job...

You can’t say it’s all on Quinn or it’s not on Quinn and ignore these players. These are professionals.

That said, even Sark was a good portion of the 2017 issues  with the offense and in particular in the red zone.

What’s funny about all that is even Ryan had a good year but his stats were down. Now, all you hear is Matt is a garbage stats quarterback. He can’t win for losing; literally! 

So yeah maybe coaching ultimately is what will fix this and we have a quick rebound. 

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Things we may get in a trade for Beasley:

We had offers last year at the trade deadline and turned them down. Now he has shown even more that he is a scrub, and he is a free agent next year. What kind of value could he possibly bring? Should

Should have gotten rid of him last year when he possibly had more value. Would be surprised if they got anything higher than a 3rd for him, which would be a win with good scouting 

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11 minutes ago, Ergo Proxy said:

Never said he wasn’t… 

If our coverages were better maybe we see something and I agree on not playing Neasman.

We were hitched to Beasley either way. 

Manuel  was never gonna be the solution if players can’t be coached properly.

I have always maintained that Quinn would eventually get fired without results, even if I think certain players would do better if their “brother“ was doing his job...

You can’t say it’s all on Quinn or it’s not on Quinn and ignore these players. These are professionals.

That said, even Sark was a good portion of the 2017 issues  with the offense and in particular in the red zone.

What’s funny about all that is even Ryan had a good year but his stats were down. Now, all you hear is Matt is a garbage stats quarterback. He can’t win for losing; literally! 

So yeah maybe coaching ultimately is what will fix this and we have a quick rebound. 

Quinn was given every opp to fix the defense, 5 years and counting and here we are.....these are his players, and his team. 
 

I have thought for some time the HC was a bigger problem than you or most of board did. This year confirmed it. 

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5 minutes ago, Vandy said:

Quinn was given every opp to fix it, 5 years and counting and here we are.....these are his players, and his team. 
 

I have thought for some time the HC was a big problem. This year confirmed it. 

Yep.

The stupid thing is we were probably a better team in 2017 without all the overturn at offensive coordinator PLUS Kyle’s staff.

Tired of these defensive head coaches that leave instability at OC while Matt gets them promoted.

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Quinn appears to be just another guy like Mularkey & Koetter:

Leave a good unit that was full of reliable players and become head coach of another team without as much talent. Kyle at least has been able to identify enough talent to keep his offense running at a good clip out in San Francisco.

The difference? John Lynch knows defense as a GM! 

Part of our problem is definitely personnel... 

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