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Coverage woes go ‘hand in hand’ with Falcons’ inability to rush the passer

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5 hours ago, JD dirtybird21 said:

Nobody has really talked about him much. But Kemal Ishmael might be the worst starter in the NFL right now...at any position. He is terrible 

 

3 hours ago, JD dirtybird21 said:

Ish is on another level of terrible

 

 

For a defense that's supposed to be fast and physical, I don't understand how Ish made the team.

 

The man is snail slow now.

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One of the main reason why I think CB will be the primary target at 16.

Yes they improve some in the 2nd half of the season but not by much.

Out: Jerome Henderson and Desmond Trufant

In: Joe Whitt Jr.

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The Falcons have allowed numerous completions to take place in three seconds or fewer. They rank 25th in the league at passing yards allowed in three seconds or fewer with 185.7 per game and 27th in defensive completion percentage at 75.2, according to radar360. When that number drops to two seconds or fewer, Atlanta has allowed 67.7 yards per game (30th in the NFL) with an 87.9 completion percentage (32nd in the NFL). In total, teams have completed 71.4 percent of their throws against the Falcons, the third-worst mark in the league.

 

Players like Jarrett, Takk, and Cominsky were beating their man but the coverage was not holding up in the back end.

In: Dante Fowler Jr.

When it came to pass rush win rate Fowler was one of the leading players in the league in that category.

 

 

Taking a look at the Bills who I felt had a pretty decent defense last year.

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Bills' D dominating, but you have to look beyond sack totals

ORCHARD PARK, N.Y. -- Jay-Z once said, "Men lie, women lie, numbers don't."

Numbers might not lie, but they can mislead.

In 2018, the Buffalo Bills' defense ranked 26th in the NFL with 36 sacks. After drafting defensive tackle Ed Oliver with the ninth overall pick in 2019, those numbers were expected to rise -- and they have. The Bills are on pace for 40 sacks this season, which would have ranked 16th in the league last season.

But it's time to stop viewing sacks as the primary indicator of a successful pass rush. For example, the Bills were statistically the league's best pass defense even with bottom-tier sack numbers; the Kansas City Chiefs led the league in sacks last season but were the second-worst pass defense in terms of yards allowed per game.

"There's different things we look for. Sometimes numbers and sacks don't always tell an accurate story," Bills coach Sean McDermott said. "Most of the time, there's more to it than just sacks."

The more prevalent stats for determining a successful pass rush? Win rate and average time to throw.

According to ESPN Stats & Information, the Bills beat 45.3% of their blocks within 2.5 seconds last season, good for 14th in the league. Those numbers currently stand at 32% and 27th, respectively.

However, opposing passers have an average of only 2.61 seconds to throw against Buffalo's pass rush, which is the NFL's sixth-best mark. That figure is improved from 2.79 seconds in 2018.

Point being, it's not just about bringing a quarterback down -- it's about forcing him to make a decision before he's comfortable.

"There are a lot of times where you're successful in pass defense without sacking the quarterback," defensive coordinator Leslie Frazier said. "Part of it is getting him off his spot, making him move if he's a guy who's a pocket passer -- which could help with his accuracy or inaccuracy -- along with just harassing him enough to where he feels like he has to speed up because he sees pressure coming.

"That's enough, for some quarterbacks, to create some indecision about where to go with the football."

Buffalo set that tone often Sunday against the Giants.

Quarterback Eli Manning completed 5 of 12 passes for 42 yards when the Bills recorded at least one pass-rush win during a play; he was sacked only once in those situations but threw a game-sealing interception in the fourth quarter.

Of course, successful pass defense is not all on Buffalo's front seven. Safety Jordan Poyer said the team stresses a "rush plus coverage" approach, in which pass-rushers and the secondary work in synergy to make quarterbacks uncomfortable.

"That's something we talk about all the time -- rush and coverage working together," Frazier said. "You're counting on the coverage buying the rush a little more time and the rush really working to [assist] the coverage ... just a combination of the two to limit the explosive plays."

Statistically, the Bills are only marginally more successful rushing the passer in 2019 than they were in 2018 -- so why does it feel like they took a step forward?

In a nutshell, they're healthy, they're deeper and they're actually competing in games.

 

"I think a lot of it has to do with just being in games," linebacker Lorenzo Alexander said. "The first two games last year were blowouts, so teams didn't have to sit back there and figure out ways to push the ball down the field. So with that, we're definitely off to a better start because we're either up or we're in the game.

"When you add in Trent [Murphy] being healthy, which is a huge difference because teams can't just pick on Jerry [Hughes'] side, and Ed is obviously special when it comes to pass-rushing, as well -- we just have great guys. From me to Harry [Phillips] to Jordan Phillips to Star [Lotulelei], just different guys that are able to rush inside and outside. Darryl Johnson and Shaq Lawson, as well. ... Then, we're in advantageous spots where we have the opportunities to rush the passer."

Buffalo looks to create more of those advantageous pass-rush situations in Week 3 against the Cincinnati Bengals, as it aims for its first 3-0 start to a season since 2011.

Harrison Phillips, Star Lotulelei, and Jordan Phillips are no real pass rushers, although Jordan broke out and put up a career year last season with 9.5 sacks. The same for Shaq Lawson who had 6.5. 

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8 hours ago, atlbaby said:

One of the main reason why I think CB will be the primary target at 16.

Yes they improve some in the 2nd half of the season but not by much.

Out: Jerome Henderson and Desmond Trufant

In: Joe Whitt Jr.

Players like Jarrett, Takk, and Cominsky were beating their man but the coverage was not holding up in the back end.

In: Dante Fowler Jr.

When it came to pass rush win rate Fowler was one of the leading players in the league in that category.

 

When it's all said and done I do think it will be a player in the secondary selected for our first pick.

I'm looking at Winfield Jr. or Henderson.

Winfield is versatile. He could play nickel (which would allow Sheffield to play on the outside) or FS (which he could make Allen expendable after the season if they resign Kazee).

Henderson would bring the coverage ability which would allow the players you mentioned enough time to cause disruption in the backfield.

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On 3/28/2020 at 2:26 PM, takeitdown said:

I'd love to see DT, CB be the first 2 picks, preferably in that order.  That would help both parts of the equation.  

But they may cross DT off the list since Bailey was extended.

If we neglect DT again we deserve to have a losing season and have everyone fired.

We need to put some real draft capital and money in DT. Besides Grady who wasn't even a high draft pick we always treat DT as an after thought.

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46 minutes ago, MAD597 said:

If we neglect DT again we deserve to have a losing season and have everyone fired.

We need to put some real draft capital and money in DT. Besides Grady who wasn't even a high draft pick we always treat DT as an after thought.

Agreed.  I think we need DT badly.
Just figured since we have 4 NFL level players there, they may go elsewhere.  But game wrecking DT's are on the the biggest equalizers a team can have.

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34 minutes ago, ATLSlobberKnockers said:

I like Fulton better. he's sticky and changes direction.quickly. He uses the trail technique well. Reminds me of Lattimore.

Fulton has character issues.   Bet he could be off some draft boards.

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31 minutes ago, ATLSlobberKnockers said:

True. Wonder how his interviews went. Thats somehing I wish I could sit in on.

I don’t believe 2020 is a year where DQ nor TD are gonna stick their necks out for any character issue guys.

I am going on record now that Fulton is off the Falcons draft board.

<insert head on chopping block> :ninja:

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Just now, g-dawg said:

I don’t believe 2020 is a year where DQ nor TD are gonna stick their necks out for any character issue guys.

I am going on record now that Fulton is off the Falcons draft boards.

<insert head on chopping block> :ninja:

You could be right. Also have to add Gay to that list.

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