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The Consolidated Matt Ryan Thread

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13 minutes ago, LouDog said:

I'm a huge Ryan fan and think all the **** people give him is ridiculous. With that said, id do this deal. Tua is going to be great and we would have tons of cash to build up the team around him if we made this kind of deal

What if Tua is not great though? Then we are screwed. We'll waste like 3 or 4 seasons giving him a chance until we bench him like the Titans did Marriotta and then have to go looking for a QB in the draft again.

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Just now, D.B.N. said:

Want some cheese with your whine? 

Nah you good. Can't stand cheese.

 

Fixing to get bored with the amount of trade Ryan draft Tua threads that we bout to see over the next 7 months tho.

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Just now, Dr Long Shot said:

What if Tua is not great though? Then we are screwed. We'll waste like 3 or 4 seasons giving him a chance until we bench him like the Titans did Marriotta and then have to go looking for a QB in the draft again.

Its a gamble but its a gamble im willing to take. Ive seen how fast Tua reads coverages, how athletic he is, his arm strength, etc. Id take the risk

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18 minutes ago, D.B.N. said:

We are playing from behind forcing him to pass. We have zero run game. Ryan's stats are padded. 

Thats not how any of this works.

You do understand, that when we are behind and "forced to pass" that the defense also knows we have to pass and are ready for it.

If anything that makes it LESS padded. The defense is literally pinning its ears back and attacking the pass play, and yet Matt Ryan still gets it done.

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26 minutes ago, D.B.N. said:

Could the Falcons Trade Matt Ryan & Draft Tua in 2020?

by Connor Hooper2 days ago

The Falcons are currently tied for the 3rd pick in the 2020 NFL Draft. Atlanta should trade their star QB for additional picks in the draft next year.

If the season ended today, the 1-5 Falcons would be drafting in the first thirty minutes of the draft. It’s also very evident that the Dan Quinn era may be coming to an end in the next two weeks. That being said, if the Falcons are already out of the playoffs, why not go ahead and make moves that will benefit the team in the long run? This isn’t as crazy as it may sound.

New Coach, New QB, New Era

Matt Ryan has went through so many offensive coordinators in his career, that he has arguably not been able to fully mature into the quarterback everyone imagined. If Dan Quinn is fired, Ryan will once again have to learn a new system. That would not be good news for Falcons fans.

With the Boston College alumni being under contract through 2021, Atlanta should look to trade the QB that led them for the past decade and start fresh with a new QB and new coach. All this being said, how could the Falcons trade Ryan and get the #1 overall draft pick?

For this scenario to work out, the Falcons would need to finish the season with a 2020 draft pick in the top 10. They would also have to trade Ryan to a team that would have a 2020 top 10 pick. The question would then become, would the Dolphins or Bengals trade the #1 overall pick for two top ten picks? If so, Tua Tagovailoa will be in an Atlanta Falcons jersey next year.

Arthur Blank Should Consider Trading Ryan for Draft Picks

The Falcons traded five draft picks to get Julio Jones in 2011. It’s safe to say that trade worked out well (Jones is arguably the top receiver in the league). Imagine the draft picks that a team would trade to have an established QB that has a MVP to his name and tons of playoff experience. Matt Ryan would easily bring a 1st, 3rd, & 4th round pick.

Potential teams to trade with: Dolphins, Bengals, Colts, Titans, Redskins, & Buccaneers

 

The Super Bowl Window is Quickly Closing for Atlanta

With Julio Jones aging, the Falcons offense doesn’t have much longer to get a Super Bowl. The defense is still young, but the past two seasons should have fans alarmed. The only option left is to go ahead and start a quick rebuild. The offense would still have Alex Mack, Julio, Freeman or Ito, and Calvin Ridley. The defense would have Deion Jones, Keanu Neal, Ricardo Allen, & Damontae Kazee to build around. Drafting Tua Tagovailoa isn’t an unrealistic idea. He very well could come into the NFL and be ready as quick as Patrick Mahomes.

The Falcons have tough decisions to make in the next two weeks. The team should realize the Matt Ryan era is over. He has reached his ceiling and they should trade him why they still can get value picks.

Could the Falcons shock the NFL and trade Ryan? It’s doubtful. But, if they did, 2020 will be Tua Time in ATL.

Three Alabama Crimson Tide stars leading the offense? Doesn’t sound like a bad idea.

 

https://atlallday.com/2019/10/14/atlanta-falcons-continue-downward-spiral-loss-arizona-cardinals/

The Falcons will lose on that guaranteed money that was something like 90% of his compensation. This article was written for dramatic values—the Falcons are not that stupid to let go of their QB for a rookie QB. These new contracts are player favorable and the team will lose a lot of money. 
 

Matt Ryan is not going anywhere and deal with it. Fix the freaking defense and we are good. The offense is fine and the OL will be much better.

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3 minutes ago, DawnOfThemBirds said:

 

I don't think Tua will be the best QB coming out of the draft.

This could actually wind up being true. Joe Burrow has looked **** good going against much better competition than Tua. 

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30 minutes ago, D.B.N. said:

The team should realize the Matt Ryan era is over. He has reached his ceiling and they should trade him why they still can get value picks.

This article is full of BS, but this is the stinkiest turd in the bunch.  Is this DLed in disguise?

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10 minutes ago, D.B.N. said:

And is tied for 3rd in INTs.

He was bad during our two games at least in terms of turnovers, but he’s only thrown two INTs since the compared to 11 total TDs. 

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Just now, Atlantafan21 said:

He was bad during our two games at least in terms of turnovers, but he’s only thrown two INTs since the compared to 11 total TDs. 

These "fans" that yearn for championships want to ship off our legit only elite players.  I will never understand.

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16 minutes ago, D.B.N. said:

Which he is terrible at. We consistently have a terrible OL, and a lackluster run game.  Why keep trying to fit a square peg into a round hole. Get a QB who can buy time and make plays outside of the pocket to offset your Terrible OL. 

But my point is...even scrambling QB's do way better with a decent OL, run game, and defense.

So we should be fixing those broken parts that benefit whichever type of QB.  It's insane that our D and OL are struggling as much as they are with how many picks/money we've put in there.

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19 minutes ago, D.B.N. said:

And is tied for 3rd in INTs.

 

 

Quite a few QBs are 1 or 2 picks within matching Ryan's int total now.

 

Ryan isn't throwing picks like that anymore.

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7 minutes ago, athell said:

These "fans" that yearn for championships want to ship off our legit only elite players.  I will never understand.

So many people want a mobile QB, but when was the last time a mobile QB actually won a SB? The only one in the last two decades that comes to mind is Russell Wilson, and he was helped by the best defense of the decade, and the last great defense we may ever see. 

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Just now, Atlantafan21 said:

So many people want a mobile QB, but when was the last time a mobile QB actually won a SB? The only one in the last two decades that comes to mind is Russell Wilson, and he was helped by the best defense of the decade, and the last great defense we may ever see. 

Yup.

Brady.  Ben.  Foles.  Manning.  Flacco.  Manning.  Brees.  I get that times are changing, and teams need to change along with it, but surrendering a legit elite QB, potential HoF QB, still in his prime, for picks that have a high probability of bombing out, will never ever make sense to me.

Whiffing on a QB can set a franchise back years.  It is the single most important piece in sports.  And people are so eager to ship him away when the real issue is the terrible defenses he has been paired with for the entirety of his career.

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40 minutes ago, takeitdown said:

Padded stats are when you get yards and stats when there's no chance of catching up.

They keep catching up.

It's actually much easier to have good stats with a run game.  The opposing defense doesn't get to tee off on you and stay in coverage.  With a run game, the safeties bite in and you get a lot more free running receivers.

Exactly this!!!! He puts up all these number even when defense know the falcons have to pass

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6 minutes ago, izibit74 said:

I said it weeks ago. Draft tua. Or the guy for LSU. Tua would bring excitement

You know what would bring excitement?  A competent defense to pair with the competent offense.  Competent coaching.  Winning.  All those would bring excitement and much more value than Tua.

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2 minutes ago, athell said:

You know what would bring excitement?  A competent defense to pair with the competent offense.  Competent coaching.  Winning.  All those would bring excitement and much more value than Tua.

Winning football games brings excitement too. Which entails getting those things you mentioned. It boggles my mind that people think getting rid of MR2 will fix this franchises problems.

With a competent defense Matt is in the MVP discussion right now

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Just now, Flyin' In DC said:

Winning football games brings excitement too. Which entails getting those things you mentioned. It boggles my mind that people think getting rid of MR2 will fix this franchises problems.

With a competent defense Matt is in the MVP discussion right now

With a competent defense we would probably be 5-1 and the narrative around this place would be flipped on it's head.

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1 minute ago, athell said:

With a competent defense we would probably be 5-1 and the narrative around this place would be flipped on it's head.

We would be so bored because there wouldn't be any I told you so threads

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Look I get the Minnesota and Indy losses, I get the Texans loss, but the two gotta have wins that I just cant figure out are Arizona and Tennesee, we win those two and this whole message board changes. 3-3 is lot easier to handle than 1-5, how in the world did we lose to Tennessee? 

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2 minutes ago, vafalconfan said:

All that superbowl window closing stuff.. it closed after 2016. At least for this team and this front office.

It really didn't.  If it weren't for a Keanu Neal knee and in general having to play at the Linc, we may have returned to the SB.  Our defense, funny enough, was the only defense to stop the Eagles that year.

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