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2016 2nd round #1: Traded in package for Jared Goff 

2016 2nd round #2: Traded in package for Jared Goff 

2016 3rd round: Traded in package for Jared Goff 

2017 1st round: Traded in package for Jared Goff in 2016

2017 3rd round: Traded in package for Jared Goff in 2016

2018 1st round: Traded for Brandin Cooks (Gave him 5 year $81M contract)

2018 2nd round: Traded for Sammy Watkins (Now playing for Chiefs)

2019 1st round: Traded for Falcons 2nd and 3rd round picks

2019 2nd round: Traded for Marcus Peters (Since traded to Ravens)

2020 1st round: Traded for Jalen Ramsey

2021 1st round: Traded for Jalen Ramsey

2021 4th round: Traded for Jalen Ramsey

For those interested in NFL team building and resource allocation, this is going to be a very interesting study whether the Rams can keep winning as they have since 2017 or whether they are going to crater like virtually every previous team that was so careless with draft picks. 

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1 minute ago, Summerhill said:

2016 2nd round #1: Traded in package for Jared Goff 

2016 2nd round #2: Traded in package for Jared Goff 

2016 3rd round: Traded in package for Jared Goff 

2017 1st round: Traded in package for Jared Goff in 2016

2017 3rd round: Traded in package for Jared Goff in 2016

2018 1st round: Traded for Brandin Cooks (Gave him 5 year $81M contract)

2018 2nd round: Traded for Sammy Watkins (Now playing for Chiefs)

2019 1st round: Traded for Falcons 2nd and 3rd round picks

2019 2nd round: Traded for Marcus Peters (Since traded to Ravens)

2020 1st round: Traded for Jalen Ramsey

2021 1st round: Traded for Jalen Ramsey

2021 4th round: Traded for Jalen Ramsey

For those interested in NFL team building and resource allocation, this is going to be a very interesting study whether the Rams can keep winning as they have since 2017 or whether they are going to crater like virtually every previous team that was so careless with draft picks

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2 minutes ago, ya_boi_j said:

Gotta do what ya gotta do sometimes. 

The theory was you can be aggressive with your resources when your QB is on a rookie contract. To varying degrees teams did that with Russell Wilson, Andrew Luck, Dak Prescott, Carson Wentz, and a few others and had a lot of success. 

Goff isn't on his rookie contract anymore. In normal circumstances, you would want more low cost draft picks to fill out your depth behind such an expensive lead player. 

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1 minute ago, Summerhill said:

The theory was you can be aggressive with your resources when your QB is on a rookie contract. To varying degrees teams did that with Russell Wilson, Andrew Luck, Dak Prescott, Carson Wentz, and a few others and had a lot of success. 

Goff isn't on his rookie contract anymore. In normal circumstances, you would want more low cost draft picks to fill out your depth behind such an expensive lead player. 

Everyone knows that. But hey, they got a super bowl appearance out of it

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2 minutes ago, Summerhill said:

The theory was you can be aggressive with your resources when your QB is on a rookie contract. To varying degrees teams did that with Russell Wilson, Andrew Luck, Dak Prescott, Carson Wentz, and a few others and had a lot of success. 

Goff isn't on his rookie contract anymore. In normal circumstances, you would want more low cost draft picks to fill out your depth behind such an expensive lead player. 

All those teams with those QBs didn’t trade away assets to win though, and that’s a huge difference to what the Rams have been and are trying to do. Seattle was mainly home grown and FA signees, with Lynch being the only major player traded for I think. Eagles were basically all drafted. Colts fell off quick, they did try some trades but they didn’t work out(Trent Richardson lol). Vontae Davis was actually good for them though. Cowboys are basically just drafting guys as well. The only team out of those that fell off hard were the colts, who happened to trade picks away just like the rams. Even then, they didn’t trade their next 5 years away. 

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2 minutes ago, MoFalconsFan56 said:

The pats trade picks for proven players all the time. We should do that more. 

The problem is that no franchise can replicate what Belichick does. They could just as well sign chic fil-a workers and win a SB. 

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16 minutes ago, MoFalconsFan56 said:

The pats trade picks for proven players all the time. We should do that more. 

1. "Proven" is a debatable term. Many of the players the Patriots trade for are talented but flawed players who fit well within the Patriots systems and not with other teams. 

2. The Patriots generally only trade mid round picks. 

3. The Patriots almost always have multiple picks in the mid rounds as a combination of trading down in higher rounds and picking up compensatory picks for letting go of other players. 

The Falcons should definitely do those three things more but Dimitroff loves trading up in the draft too much. 

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19 minutes ago, MoFalconsFan56 said:

The pats trade picks for proven players all the time. We should do that more. 

 

3 minutes ago, Summerhill said:
  1. "Proven" is a debatable term. Many of the players the Patriots trade for are talented but flawed players who fit well within the Patriots systems and not with other teams. 
  2. The Patriots generally only trade mid round picks. 
  3. The Patriots almost always have multiple picks in the mid rounds as a combination of trading down in higher rounds and picking up compensatory picks for letting go of other players. 

The Falcons should definitely do those three things more but Dimitroff loves trading up in the draft too much. 

BB and Pats have great scouting process. They mark down players they like in draft process. They may not have drafted them but if that player becomes available they will grab them. They also use the scouting to game plan when they go against the player. They always have additional details on that player. 
There is a method to BB madness.

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1 hour ago, LouDog said:

True but they don't overpay for players. The Rams do

it also helps to have a QB like Brady who's never been near the top of the highest paid QBs in the league

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1 hour ago, ya_boi_j said:

Everyone knows that. But hey, they got a super bowl appearance out of it

A Superbowl appearance without a Lombardi is like being the tallest midget -No moral victories. We made an appearance and should have won without giving away multiple picks- 

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1 hour ago, Sun Tzu 7 said:

Too bad Goff is terribble.

That being said yes he will look like an all Pro when playing the Quin 'QB Whisperer' defense.

But otherwise they waaaay overpaid.

He had a nice statistical season last year but his performance in the playoffs should have been a red flag. 

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1 minute ago, Dr Long Shot said:

 

He had a nice statistical season last year but his performance in the playoffs should have been a red flag. 

Same w/ McVay imo.  That trio of McVay/Goff/Gurley is looking really suspect all of a sudden.

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1 hour ago, Dr Long Shot said:

 

He had a nice statistical season last year but his performance in the playoffs should have been a red flag. 

Yeah I got mad watching him in the Super Bowl because of how bad he was.

I knew in the first 5 minutes it wasn’t going to be much of a game.

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3 hours ago, falcons007 said:

 

BB and Pats have great scouting process. They mark down players they like in draft process. They may not have drafted them but if that player becomes available they will grab them. They also use the scouting to game plan when they go against the player. They always have additional details on that player. 
There is a method to BB madness.

I think most teams do this (keeping tabs on players they scouted when they become free agent, etc). I have heard plenty of times when a free agent is signed that the coaches liked them and scouted them pre draft.

The other part I would think coaches would also do, but who knows...especially Quinn.

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2 hours ago, Scott1988 said:

it also helps to have a QB like Brady who's never been near the top of the highest paid QBs in the league

Such an incorrect narrative.

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3 hours ago, ya_boi_j said:

Everyone knows that. But hey, they got a super bowl appearance out of it

 

True, but you know Stan Kroenke gonna have to fill up that multi-billion dollar new stadium and entertainment/business complex around it starting next year.

 

The Rams have to pull off a SB title before the bill comes due. Which could be as soon as 2 years. They don't look so good now already lol.

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I was thinking the Rams were going to be the team NOT to pay the QB after his rookie deal.

I've never bought in to Goff and I think McVay can plug a # of guys in there. Obviously, I thought wrong about them paying him and they must believe in him but... We will see. 

I don't think they are making the playoffs this year and not sure if mortgaging picks is the answer.

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3 hours ago, Atlantafan21 said:

All those teams with those QBs didn’t trade away assets to win though, and that’s a huge difference to what the Rams have been and are trying to do. Seattle was mainly home grown and FA signees, with Lynch being the only major player traded for I think. Eagles were basically all drafted. Colts fell off quick, they did try some trades but they didn’t work out(Trent Richardson lol). Vontae Davis was actually good for them though. Cowboys are basically just drafting guys as well. The only team out of those that fell off hard were the colts, who happened to trade picks away just like the rams. Even then, they didn’t trade their next 5 years away. 

Nah, they were careless too..remember Percy harvin and jimmy graham? 

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10 minutes ago, MSalmon said:

Nah, they were careless too..remember Percy harvin and jimmy graham? 

Oh true totally forgot about Graham. They tried that at the end of their run. It wasn’t the worst for them, but losing Unger. The Harvin trade was terrible though, so bad that I completely forgot it even happened. Guess they did screw up as well lol.

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