falcons007 Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 Khalil Mack has 26 pass rush successes (Hurries+hits+sacks), the Same number as Vic, Takk, Clayborne, and Bailey combined. He has twice the sacks as the jokers at the Falcons DE position in 1/4th the snaps. Falcons D also lead the NFL in giving up 19 first downs on defense because of penalties. This defense trying hard to lose. caponine, roguebeaver, Knight of God and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shock Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 Good thing our HC is a defensive master mind. D.B.N., Falconguy, Vandy and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XXVIII-III Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 Could’ve traded for ‘em... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis York Morgan Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 Well...yeah. Diesel_Bird, A-TowN.- and roguebeaver 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godzilla1985 Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 Missed him by one pick...and got Matthews who has been very meh for a 1st round pick let alone a top 10 1st round pick. PeytonMannings Forehead, Knight of God, blkbigdog35 and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwifalcon Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 It’s why picking early in the draft isn’t sometimes isnt cracked up to what it’s meant to be.Its always about what you do with the talent once it gets in the door. Falconsfan567, Nino11, blkbigdog35 and 5 others 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jpg428gggg Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 41 minutes ago, falcons007 said: Khalil Mack has 26 pass rush successes (Hurries+hits+sacks), the Same number as Vic, Takk, Clayborne, and Bailey combined. He has twice the sacks as the jokers at the Falcons DE position in 1/4th the snaps. Falcons D also lead the NFL in giving up 19 first downs on defense because of penalties. This defense trying hard to lose. It’s also hard to get pressure when the QB’s first read is open most the time. Teams are abusing our back 7 and we can’t doing anything right. Early in the season we were getting pressure but that has changed as our secondary has gotten worse. This defense looks defeated before the game even starts. MoFalconsFan56, Falconsfan567, Francis York Morgan and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
⚡Slumerican⚡ Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 This organization has problems.. Im not saying anything everyone else dosnt already know. But good players come here to become average, its always been this way. *Julio is a exception* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrthoPTSD Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 Mack is better than the cumulative combination of skills/stats of our full DE rotation! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4dabirds Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 42 minutes ago, ⚡Slumerican⚡ said: This organization has problems.. Im not saying anything everyone else dosnt already know. But good players come here to become average, its always been this way. *Julio is a exception* John Abraham wasn't average, neither was Tony Gonzalez. Alex Mack made an impact once he got here. The 98 Falcons had a few free agents that made a huge difference as well. There's been lots of great drafted talent as well. Maybe you're just talking out your ***, and not looking at the facts in regards to players. The organization has problems with regard to landing good coaching. GeorgiaBoyz, Geneaut, Nino11 and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quotemokc Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 2 hours ago, Godzilla1985 said: Missed him by one pick...and got Matthews who has been very meh for a 1st round pick let alone a top 10 1st round pick. At least we didnt waste the 2nd overall pick on Greg Robinson ATLSlobberKnockers 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyin' In DC Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 If receivers are wide open 1 second after the snap that does not help. That being said the Falcons haven't pressured a QB consistently in 10 years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tldr Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, Godzilla1985 said: Missed him by one pick...and got Matthews who has been very meh for a 1st round pick let alone a top 10 1st round pick. This is why I don't get why some Falcon fans are so against tanking. Smitty won one useless game against the Bills in 2013 and we missed out on a franchise changing talent. DQ won a useless game against the Bucs last year and we move down 9 spots and we could've had Josh Allen or Ed Oliver. Edited October 13, 2019 by tldr NeonDeion, Godzilla1985, I Even Bleed Red and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falcons007 Posted October 13, 2019 Author Share Posted October 13, 2019 12 minutes ago, Flyin' In DC said: If receivers are wide open 1 second after the snap that does not help. That being said the Falcons haven't pressured a QB consistently in 10 years 1 hour ago, Jpg428gggg said: It’s also hard to get pressure when the QB’s first read is open most the time. Teams are abusing our back 7 and we can’t doing anything right. Early in the season we were getting pressure but that has changed as our secondary has gotten worse. This defense looks defeated before the game even starts. It goes both ways, most of big plays were Watson sitting in back field for 5-6 seconds to waiting for WR to get open. Mariota did the same. The Daywalker and Nino11 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Tony G. Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 2 hours ago, Godzilla1985 said: Missed him by one pick...and got Matthews who has been very meh for a 1st round pick let alone a top 10 1st round pick. Better than him falling and us passing him up falcons007 and Godzilla1985 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falcons007 Posted October 13, 2019 Author Share Posted October 13, 2019 2 hours ago, Godzilla1985 said: Missed him by one pick...and got Matthews who has been very meh for a 1st round pick let alone a top 10 1st round pick. Mathews isn’t Meh by any stretch. He had struggles in his rookie year playing hurt. Had pretty comparable years with other hyped up pro bowl LT. Wolfensheim, Flyin' In DC and Vandy 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeonDeion Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 45 minutes ago, tldr said: This is why I don't get why some Falcon fans are so against tanking. Smitty won one useless game against the Bills in 2013 and we missed out on a franchise changing talent. DQ won a useless game against the Bucs last year and we move down 9 spots and we could've had Josh Allen or Ed Oliver. You’re on the tanking team? Let’s start a club. I like to start tanking as soon as mathematically eliminated from playoffs or once we have 5 starters on IR. You? falcons007 and I Even Bleed Red 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwifalcon Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 57 minutes ago, tldr said: This is why I don't get why some Falcon fans are so against tanking. Smitty won one useless game against the Bills in 2013 and we missed out on a franchise changing talent. DQ won a useless game against the Bucs last year and we move down 9 spots and we could've had Josh Allen or Ed Oliver. Problem is when we won those games how was anyone to know that talent your speaking about goes where it goes. There are no pointless games when your in the league or play any professional sport. Still draft position is what it is where doesn’t dictate what the players going to be.I mentioned this earlier it’s what you do with what you get in the door. For me wanting to tank on the premise that you may or may not have a chance at better talent says to me you have more to worry about than who and where your drafting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caver50 Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 44 minutes ago, falcons007 said: It goes both ways, most of big plays were Watson sitting in back field for 5-6 seconds to waiting for WR to get open. Mariota did the same. Give any QB that much time and he'll complete that pass. This is something Matt Ryan is unfamiliar with. falcons007, Nino11 and ATLSlobberKnockers 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falcons007 Posted October 13, 2019 Author Share Posted October 13, 2019 41 minutes ago, caver50 said: Give any QB that much time and he'll complete that pass. This is something Matt Ryan is unfamiliar with. They did against Titans but none of the WR were open. Apparently, the receivers were running wrong routes. That’s such a falcons thing to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LouDog Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 2 hours ago, tldr said: This is why I don't get why some Falcon fans are so against tanking. Smitty won one useless game against the Bills in 2013 and we missed out on a franchise changing talent. DQ won a useless game against the Bucs last year and we move down 9 spots and we could've had Josh Allen or Ed Oliver. And how has ed oliver been doing? Knight of God, Vandy, falcons007 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falcons007 Posted October 13, 2019 Author Share Posted October 13, 2019 7 hours ago, LouDog said: And how has ed oliver been doing? And most of the winning teams never draft in top 10 and the same bottom dwellers keep drafting at the top. Losers will be losers. Winners win where ever they pick in draft. Plunket76 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight of God Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 Well people here said we didn’t need him, others are obsessed with the draft and the salary cap like it’s their own money. Like it matters. The front office I guess feel as though he doesn’t fit the scheme. I’d say he doesn’t fit the personality of the team. That said, I wish we had given the picks for him. Geneaut and coastiemike 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.B.N. Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 Should have taken Lewan instead of Mathews... but Mack was who I really wanted. Sucks the Raiders got him literally the pick before us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiler11 Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 If only we were lining up against one man defenses. Mack is a game changer for sure, but he's surrounded by great players on all three levels. falcons007 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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