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1 minute ago, K26dp said:

Right, I'm projecting that Waters becomes more selective in time, and he continues to have higher BABiP than league average (though his +.425 BABiP from last year is obviously not sustainable). 

He got his BB% up to a little over 9% in AAA this year, which is going to bode well for him if he can continue to improve his contact rate. Personally feel like there are a few more "warts" on Waters than on Pache, but I also think Drew's ceiling is immensely higher because of the bat profile coupled with the stellar COF defense.

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Just now, ATLBrave said:

He got his BB% up to a little over 9% in AAA this year, which is going to bode well for him if he can continue to improve his contact rate. Personally feel like there are a few more "warts" on Waters than on Pache, but I also think Drew's ceiling is immensely higher because of the bat profile coupled with the stellar COF defense.

Eh, I don't think Waters's ceiling is any higher than Pache's. Pache is almost always ranked higher because his floor is so much higher, even if their ceilings are similar. 

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1 minute ago, K26dp said:

Eh, I don't think Waters's ceiling is any higher than Pache's. Pache is almost always ranked higher because his floor is so much higher, even if their ceilings are similar. 

I'd disagree. Maybe "immensely" was a little too brash, but I definitely think his bat profiles to have a higher ceiling. I think where the argument could be made is that he most likely won't reach that ceiling. As for the part in bold, I can't disagree at all. 

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1 hour ago, K26dp said:

Of course I wouldn't want to trade Ian Anderson for Sonny Gray right now. Gray's prime has passed and he's making a ton more money. That's a terrible way of looking at it.

If I was the GM of the Braves and I think my *mid-level* comp for Anderson is Gray, then I have to look at it as trading the first 6-7 years of Gray's career (at near-minimum for 3 years and arb for 3 to 4 more years), more or less, for what I'm getting back.  Most of the time I'm not going to get value unless I'm willing to radically favor immediate value.

I'm not talking contracts or years in the league I'm talking strictly talent for talent on their best day are you making those trades.

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2 hours ago, Malachore said:

I'm not talking contracts or years in the league I'm talking strictly talent for talent on their best day are you making those trades.

Would I trade the first six years of Ian Anderson's career for the first six years of Sonny Gray's career, knowing that Gray would pitch as he did and not knowing what Anderson will do? Of course I would. Sonny Gray has been a quality major league starter since his debut. That's 900 innings of 3.66 ERA. If Anderson duplicated that, it would be regarded as a great pick.

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