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2019-2020 Atlanta Braves Offseason Thread

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The following players are projected to reach free agency after the 2019 MLB season.  Numbers in parentheses represent the age at which the player will play the 2020 season.

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Updated 10-9-19

Catchers

Alex Avila (33)
Welington Castillo (33) – $8MM club option with a $500K buyout
Jason Castro (33)
Francisco Cervelli (34)
Robinson Chirinos (36)
Travis d’Arnaud (31)
Tyler Flowers (34) — $6MM club option with a $2MM buyout
Yan Gomes (32) — $9MM club option with a $1MM buyout
Yasmani Grandal (31) — $16MM mutual option with a $2.25MM buyout
Nick Hundley (36)
Chris Iannetta (37)
Jonathan Lucroy (34)
Martin Maldonado (33)
Russell Martin (37)
Brian McCann (36)
Austin Romine (31)
Stephen Vogt (35)
Matt Wieters (34)

First Basemen

Jose Abreu (33)
Matt Adams (31) — $4MM mutual option with a $1MM buyout
Yonder Alonso (33)
Lucas Duda (34)
David Freese (37)
Brad Miller (30)
Mitch Moreland (34)
Steve Pearce (37)
Mark Reynolds (36)
Anthony Rizzo (30) — $14.5MM club option with a $2MM buyout
Justin Smoak (33)
Eric Thames (33) — $7.5MM club option with a $1MM buyout
Neil Walker (34)
Ryan Zimmerman (35) — $18MM club option with a $2MM buyout

Second Basemen

Gordon Beckham (33)
Starlin Castro (30) — $16MM club option with a $1MM buyout
Brian Dozier (33)
Wilmer Flores (28) — $6MM club option with a $500K buyout
Logan Forsythe (33)
Scooter Gennett (30)
Jedd Gyorko (31) — $13MM club option for 2020 with a $1MM buyout
Josh Harrison (32)
Brock Holt (32)
Howie Kendrick (36)
Jason Kipnis (33) — $16.5MM club option with a $2.5MM buyout
Brad Miller (30)
Mike Moustakas (31) — $11MM mutual option with a $3MM buyout
Eduardo Nuñez (33)
Jonathan Schoop (28)
Eric Sogard (34)
Yangervis Solarte (32)
Neil Walker (34)
Ben Zobrist (39)

Shortstops

Elvis Andrus (31) — can opt out of remaining three years, $43MM
Freddy Galvis (30) — $5.5MM club option with a $1MM buyout
Didi Gregorius (30)
Adeiny Hechavarria (31)
Brock Holt (32)
Jose Iglesias (30)
Jordy Mercer (33)
Eduardo Nuñez (33)
Eric Sogard (34)

Third Basemen

Asdrubal Cabrera (34)
Josh Donaldson (34)
Wilmer Flores (28) — $6MM club option with a $500K buyout
Logan Forsythe (33)
Todd Frazier (34)
David Freese (37)
Jedd Gyorko (31) — $13MM club option for 2020 with a $1MM buyout
Josh Harrison (32)
Jung Ho Kang (33)
Mike Moustakas (31) — $11MM mutual option with a $3MM buyout
Eduardo Nuñez (33)
Martin Prado (36)
Anthony Rendon (30)
Pablo Sandoval (33)
Eric Sogard (34)
Yangervis Solarte (32)

Left Fielders

Melky Cabrera (35)
Lonnie Chisenhall (31)
Corey Dickerson (31)
Brett Gardner (36)
Alex Gordon (36) — $23MM mutual option with a $4MM buyout
Curtis Granderson (39)
Matt Kemp (35)
J.D. Martinez (32) — can opt out of remaining three years, $62.5MM
Marcell Ozuna (29)
Gerardo Parra (33)
Hunter Pence (37)

Center Fielders

Peter Bourjos (33)
Jarrod Dyson (35)
Billy Hamilton (29) — $7.5MM mutual option with a $1MM buyout
Austin Jackson (33)
Jon Jay (35)
Adam Jones (34)
Juan Lagares (31) — $9.5MM club option with a $500K buyout
Starling Marte (31) — $11.5MM club option for 2020 with a $2MM buyout
Leonys Martin (32)
Cameron Maybin (33)
Charlie Tilson (27)

Right Fielders

Melky Cabrera (35)
Kole Calhoun (32) — $14MM club option with a $1MM buyout
Nicholas Castellanos (28)
Lonnie Chisenhall (31)
Adam Eaton (31) — $9.5MM club option with a $1.5MM buyout
Avisail Garcia (29)
Carlos Gomez (34)
Carlos Gonzalez (34)
Curtis Granderson (39)
Jason Heyward (30) — with 550 PA in 2019, can opt out of remaining four years, $86MM
Matt Kemp (35)
Nick Markakis (36) — $6MM club option with a $2MM buyout
Gerardo Parra (33)
Hunter Pence (37)
Yasiel Puig (29)
Eric Thames (33) — $7.5MM club option with a $1MM buyout
Ben Zobrist (39)

Designated Hitters

Nelson Cruz (39) — $12MM club option with a $300K buyout
Lucas Duda (34)
Edwin Encarnacion (37) — $20MM club option with a $5MM buyout
Avisail Garcia (29)
J.D. Martinez (32) — can opt out of remaining three years, $62.5MM
Kendrys Morales (37)
Hanley Ramirez (36)
Mark Reynolds (36)
Mark Trumbo (34)

Starting Pitchers

Brett Anderson (32)
Chris Archer (31) — $9MM club option with a $1.75MM buyout
Jake Arrieta (34) — can opt out of remaining one year and $20MM unless Phillies exercise a two-year, $40MM option
Homer Bailey (34)
Clay Buchholz (35)
Madison Bumgarner (30)
Trevor Cahill (32)
Andrew Cashner (33) — $10MM vesting/player option
Jhoulys Chacin (32)
Yu Darvish (33) — can opt out of remaining four years and $81MM
Gerrit Cole (29)
Ross Detwiler (34)
Marco Estrada (36)
Kyle Gibson (32)
Gio Gonzalez (34)
Kendall Graveman (29) – $3MM club option
Cole Hamels (36)
Matt Harvey (31)
Jeremy Hellickson (33)
Felix Hernandez (34)
Rich Hill (40)
Edwin Jackson (36)
Dallas Keuchel (32)
Corey Kluber (34) — $17MM club option with a $1MM buyout
Wade Miley (33)
Shelby Miller (29)
Matt Moore (31)
Ivan Nova (33)
Jake Odorizzi (30)
Martin Perez (29) — $7MM club option with a $500K buyout
Michael Pineda (30)
Drew Pomeranz (31)
Rick Porcello (31)
Jose Quintana (31) — $11.5MM club option with a $1MM buyout
Clayton Richard (36)
Tanner Roark (33)
Tyson Ross (33)
Hyun-Jin Ryu (33)
Ervin Santana (37)
Drew Smyly (29)
Stephen Strasburg (31) — can opt out of remaining four years and $100MM
Julio Teheran (29) — $12MM club option with a $1MM buyout
Jason Vargas (37) — $8MM club option with a $2MM buyout
Edinson Volquez (36)
Michael Wacha (28)
Adam Wainwright (38)
Zack Wheeler (30)
Alex Wood (29)

Right-Handed Relievers

Matt Albers (37)
Cody Allen (31)
Tony Barnette (36) — $3MM club option
Dellin Betances (32)
Brad Brach (34)
Steve Cishek (34)
Tyler Clippard (35)
Cory Gearrin (34)
Luke Gregerson (36)
Will Harris (35)
David Hernandez (35)
Yoshihisa Hirano (36)
Greg Holland (34)
Daniel Hudson (32)
Jared Hughes (34) — $3MM club option with a $250K buyout
Tommy Hunter (33)
Kenley Jansen (32) — can opt out of remaining two years and $38MM
Jeremy Jeffress (32) — $4.3MM club option
Nate Jones (34) — $5.15MM club option with a $1.25MM buyout
Shawn Kelley (36) — $2.5MM club option with a $250K buyout.
Brandon Kintzler (35)
Chris Martin (34)
Collin McHugh (33)
Brandon Morrow (35) — $12MM vesting option with a $3MM buyout
Pat Neshek (39) — $7MM club option with a $750K buyout
Juan Nicasio (33)
Darren O’Day (37)
Seung-hwan Oh (37)
Dan Otero (35) — $1.5MM club option with a $100K buyout
Wily Peralta (31)
Yusmeiro Petit (35) — $5.5MM club option with a $1MM buyout
David Phelps (33) — $1MM club option (value to increase based on number of 2019 appearances)
Neil Ramirez (31)
Addison Reed (31)
Fernando Rodney (43)
Sergio Romo (37)
Hector Rondon (32)
Trevor Rosenthal (30)
Joe Smith (36)
Craig Stammen (36)
Pedro Strop (35)
Anthony Swarzak (34)
Tyler Thornburg (31)
Josh Tomlin (35)
Arodys Vizcaino (29)
Adam Warren (32) – $2.5MM club option with a $500K buyout

Left-Handed Relievers

Luis Avilan (30)
Jerry Blevins (36)
Aroldis Chapman (32) — can opt out of remaining two years and $30MM
Tony Cingrani (30)
Jake Diekman (33) — Mutual option with $500K buyout
Sean Doolittle (33) — $6.5MM club option with a $500K buyout
Zach Duke (37)
Mike Dunn (35) — $6MM club option with a $1MM buyout
Derek Holland (33)
Wade LeBlanc (35) — $5MM club option with a $450K buyout
Francisco Liriano (36)
Aaron Loup (32) — $2MM club option
Tommy Milone (33)
Hector Santiago (32)
Tony Sipp (36)
Will Smith (30)
Jonny Venters (35)
Tony Watson (35) — $2.5MM player option with a $500K buyout

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Early on, McCann is gone. I'm hoping Teheran, Flowers, Hamilton, and Markakis are all gone as well, but who knows. Hope we try and keep Martin and even O'Day. 

I think Gerrit Cole is my top choice of all the pitchers, but who knows if we will be willing to pay that much 

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5 minutes ago, tl;dr said:

Early on, McCann is gone. I'm hoping Teheran, Flowers, Hamilton, and Markakis are all gone as well, but who knows. Hope we try and keep Martin and even O'Day. 

I think Gerrit Cole is my top choice of all the pitchers, but who knows if we will be willing to pay that much 

If we don’t try to retain Donaldson what are our options outside of Riley?  I see Prado is back on that list. 

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4 minutes ago, Born Again Georgian said:

If we don’t try to retain Donaldson what are our options outside of Riley?  I see Prado is back on that list. 

Camargo

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2 hours ago, Born Again Georgian said:

If we don’t try to retain Donaldson what are our options outside of Riley?  I see Prado is back on that list. 

Anthony Rendon would be the prize.

But I expect a deal with Donaldson to get worked out within a week of the World Series ending.

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2 hours ago, tl;dr said:

Early on, McCann is gone. I'm hoping Teheran, Flowers, Hamilton, and Markakis are all gone as well, but who knows. Hope we try and keep Martin and even O'Day. 

I think Gerrit Cole is my top choice of all the pitchers, but who knows if we will be willing to pay that much 

As much as I'd like him I just don't see the Braves handing out a 200+ million dollar contract. 

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7 minutes ago, Malachore said:

As much as I'd like him I just don't see the Braves handing out a 200+ million dollar contract. 

I can't imagine a contract like that not including some sort of option or opt out clause

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I fully expect the option for Julio to be declined. He managed 170 innings before he had nothing left. Hes been around long enough to be able to go longer. 

I could see the Braves talking to Bumgarner about a short term deal. Cole is biggest prize but I dont know if we have the ammunition to pull that off and not hinder future needs. If Strasburg opts out you could also monitor that market, hes a proven October arm as well. Cole Hamels is a guy you could get at a fair price to plug in with the young guys as well. Theres some solid options on the market that would round out the rotation. Soroka is your ace so you dont have to go big.

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5 hours ago, Malachore said:

As much as I'd like him I just don't see the Braves handing out a 200+ million dollar contract. 

Yeah I don’t expect it either. Sigh 

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Chipper said it himself. Power arms are the key to October. If you look at modern history most of the most successful SP in October are power arms. Chipper said power arms are just tough as it gets colder and you're a little wore down from the season. Chipper is the master of hitting so if hes telling me I need power arms ok buying it.

The bullpen is almost set. Greene and Melancon are returning. You need an arm or two but it's in much better shape. I'm going to try and sign Donaldson for 2 or 3 years. Try Riley in LF, if he struggles Waters and Pache are real close. Then try, within reason, to get Cole to Atlanta. You could easily sell it to Terry McGuirk as Cole could be the missing link.

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1 hour ago, Unknøwn said:

Chipper said it himself. Power arms are the key to October. If you look at modern history most of the most successful SP in October are power arms. Chipper said power arms are just tough as it gets colder and you're a little wore down from the season. Chipper is the master of hitting so if hes telling me I need power arms ok buying it.

The bullpen is almost set. Greene and Melancon are returning. You need an arm or two but it's in much better shape. I'm going to try and sign Donaldson for 2 or 3 years. Try Riley in LF, if he struggles Waters and Pache are real close. Then try, within reason, to get Cole to Atlanta. You could easily sell it to Terry McGuirk as Cole could be the missing link.

This season was "The chance".

It is a major embarrassing collapse at home that I do not see this franchise recovering from for about 5-10 seasons here.

The pitching changes in game 1 cost of he series.

The players that you ask to re-sign did not hit in this series.

Their disappearance was record-breaking as well.

Must not give more money and years to them.

 

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1 hour ago, Unknøwn said:

Chipper said it himself. Power arms are the key to October. If you look at modern history most of the most successful SP in October are power arms. Chipper said power arms are just tough as it gets colder and you're a little wore down from the season. Chipper is the master of hitting so if hes telling me I need power arms ok buying it.

The bullpen is almost set. Greene and Melancon are returning. You need an arm or two but it's in much better shape. I'm going to try and sign Donaldson for 2 or 3 years. Try Riley in LF, if he struggles Waters and Pache are real close. Then try, within reason, to get Cole to Atlanta. You could easily sell it to Terry McGuirk as Cole could be the missing link.

It's funny how most GMs don't know or think this but it's something I've been saying since I was 13 years old. It's not rocket science and one of the reasons we only won 1 with all those chances.

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38 minutes ago, Rise said:

This season was "The chance".

It is a major embarrassing collapse at home that I do not see this franchise recovering from for about 5-10 seasons here.

The pitching changes in game 1 cost of he series.

The players that you ask to re-sign did not hit in this series.

Their disappearance was record-breaking as well.

Must not give more money and years to them.

 

Donaldson is the only one I'm bringing back. He made a huge impact on this team regardless of October. He did have a rough series

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At one time I thought Keuchel returning would be big but not anymore. He can no longer get RH out. Righties hit .281/.355/.442 with 14 HR off Dallas this year. He dominated LH pretty well but if you cant get RH out you're in big trouble as a SP.

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3 hours ago, Unknøwn said:

Donaldson is the only one I'm bringing back. He made a huge impact on this team regardless of October. He did have a rough series

I wouldn’t mind Joyce, O’Day, and Martin. All of them would be reasonable 

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2 minutes ago, tl;dr said:

I wouldn’t mind Joyce, O’Day, and Martin. All of them would be reasonable 

Yep, those are good ones. O'Day was surprisingly effective considering his long layoff.

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5 hours ago, Unknøwn said:

Chipper said it himself. Power arms are the key to October.

 

It's precisely this line of thinking that just set us. Our only great pitcher only had one start in this series. We did that to get Folty, our power arm, two starts. There's this strange thing in baseball where people remember when power arms do better, like Folty's performance in game two, than when non-power pitchers do.

St. Louis just beat us by starting Hudson, Flaherty, and the desiccated corpse of Adam Wainwright. Flaherty's velocity is fine, but nobody would ever describe it as elite. Hudson famously lost three miles per hour off his fastball this year, which has had Cards fans freaked out. It's not about power arms. Winning in the playoffs is about power minds.

The other thing in a five-game series is not starting guys on short rest. I admire when Verlander and Keuchel want the ball, but it seems to blow up more often than it works. 

From the All-Star break on, I expected us to go Soroka, Keuchel, scrub combo, Soroka, Keuchel. Instead, we somehow wound up underutilizing our only truly dominant starter while doubling down on our head case of a power arm. It's going to leave a bad taste in my mouth all offseason. Soroka pitches twice. It's just common sense. Snit and/or AA overthought it due to this obsession with power arms in the playoffs. And there's a touch of Rick Ankiel in there, too.

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4 hours ago, Rise said:

 

It is a major embarrassing collapse at home that I do not see this franchise recovering from for about 5-10 seasons here.

 

 

Somehow, I think that having Acuna for the next 5-10 seasons is more important than the outcome of one game. This is like 20 levels of hyperbole over the top.

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7 hours ago, Unknøwn said:

I fully expect the option for Julio to be declined. He managed 170 innings before he had nothing left. Hes been around long enough to be able to go longer. 

I could see the Braves talking to Bumgarner about a short term deal. Cole is biggest prize but I dont know if we have the ammunition to pull that off and not hinder future needs. If Strasburg opts out you could also monitor that market, hes a proven October arm as well. Cole Hamels is a guy you could get at a fair price to plug in with the young guys as well. Theres some solid options on the market that would round out the rotation. Soroka is your ace so you dont have to go big.

I'd agree on the Cole point if Acuna and Albies weren't locked down to absurdly cheap long term deals. Since they are, however, I'm not really seeing the excuse not to target top flight FAs like that. You also can never have too few ace quality power arms, especially if your goal is to go deep in the playoffs.

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The Most Likely 2020 Rotation:

1. Mike Soroka
2. Max Fried
3. Someone (probably more on the line of Zack Wheeler than Gerrit Cole)
4. Mike Foltynewicz (Sorry if you deeply hate his guts, but there is a 90% chance he suits up for the Braves for at least one more season. There's just no way they can send him away. There was enough issues already coming into 2019 with the pitching and April, there is just no way in **** that they can, like some might want, go into ST with THREE actual question marks in the rotation instead of just a question mark about MUH MUH head games)
5. Julio Teheran (if he ends up struggling we'll go to our prospects)

Folty not only returns, but likely starts 25+ games next year unless he gets absolutely stomped on in 8 out of 15 starts (which is what it felt like before he got sent down) or gets injured. So, mentally prep yourselves if you hate him. Folty returning is more likely than Dallas returning because we love huge stuff arms in a lot of cases.

 

It'll be called irrational by some, but I almost want Yasmani Grandal more than Josh Donaldson.

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25 minutes ago, VoiceofReason95 said:

The Most Likely 2020 Rotation:

1. Mike Soroka
2. Max Fried
3. Someone (probably more on the line of Zack Wheeler than Gerrit Cole)
4. Mike Foltynewicz (Sorry if you deeply hate his guts, but there is a 90% chance he suits up for the Braves for at least one more season. There's just no way they can send him away. There was enough issues already coming into 2019 with the pitching and April, there is just no way in **** that they can, like some might want, go into ST with THREE actual question marks in the rotation instead of just a question mark about MUH MUH head games)
5. Julio Teheran (if he ends up struggling we'll go to our prospects)

Folty not only returns, but likely starts 25+ games next year unless he gets absolutely stomped on in 8 out of 15 starts (which is what it felt like before he got sent down) or gets injured. So, mentally prep yourselves if you hate him. Folty returning is more likely than Dallas returning because we love huge stuff arms in a lot of cases.

 

It'll be called irrational by some, but I almost want Yasmani Grandal more than Josh Donaldson.

If they plan on making the mistake of being cheap with the rotation yet again then I don't see what they couldn't get both Donaldson and Grandal.

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15 hours ago, tl;dr said:

Early on, McCann is gone. I'm hoping Teheran, Flowers, Hamilton, and Markakis are all gone as well, but who knows. Hope we try and keep Martin and even O'Day. 

I think Gerrit Cole is my top choice of all the pitchers, but who knows if we will be willing to pay that much 

I would be surprised if they don't pick up Flowers option because the catcher FA market is very thin and they already have to replace McCann. I don't think they have confidence in Alex Jackson to handle that young pitching staff. And the pitching staff is likely to get even younger very soon with Wright, Muller, Anderson, Davidson, and Weigel trying to crack the rotation. If the Red Sox decline arbitration on Sandy Leon I would try to sign him.

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We know from last offseason the Braves prefer to be a near platoon for catching. This FO believes in the Atlanta heat and humidity you need to split a fair share of time even if it's not 50/50. So, unless they think it's too expensive I could see Flowers back. Suzuki left because he didnt want to do that, he wanted a bigger share. Then his team ended up getting Gomes anyway.

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