I legit think we should package and ship picks in order to get rid of Trufant and Freeman.

[ChickenBiscuit 5,233]

There is absolutely no reason for a new coach to be dealing with two mediocre players on top-money contracts. Even if we have to give away a 5th and next years 6th or some ****, we should do it just to get rid of the cap hit. 

Seriously, we have way too many guys that have overstayed their visits and are riding off of past glory alone. Trufant isn't the answer and he ain't worth the money we're paying him and Freeman is just a drive killer at this point.

If we finish with a top 5ish pick, then we should just find a way to get rid of them. They're terrible and are soaking up valuable resources. They don't need to be on this roster.

[falcons007 18,158]

Lol. I agree on Freeman but Tru was the only player that looked decent in secondary. There is long list of players before Tru. I would start with firing DC right away.

[JT 100]

1 minute ago, falcons007 said:

Lol. I agree on Freeman but Tru was the only player that looked decent in secondary. There is long list of players before Tru. I would start with firing DC right away.

I’m with you. Freeman sure no doubt he isn’t as good as his price but for Tru I’d wait...for now.

[jlrfalcon 3,020]

Freeman - a solution waiting (Ito? Ollison? Hill?)

Trufant - no real solution until next year's draft or maybe FA?

 

[ChickenBiscuit 5,233]

3 minutes ago, falcons007 said:

Lol. I agree on Freeman but Tru was the only player that looked decent in secondary. There is long list of players before Tru. I would start with firing DC right away.

All the more reason to trade his ***. We can ship him off before his trade value declines any further. 

[ChickenBiscuit 5,233]

1 minute ago, jlrfalcon said:

Freeman - a solution waiting (Ito? Ollison? Hill?)

Trufant - no real solution until next year's draft or maybe FA?

 

We need a big money FA, preferably a DB who can actually jump routes and create turnovers. We haven't had that since Asante Samuels.

I'm tired of these budget savvy, bargain bin offseasons that TD is so "good" at, we need one splash signing at least. 

[JeffAtl 547]

A trade wouldn't really help with Freeman's contract though as the signing bonus hit would stay with the Falcons.

No one would want Freeman's contract so he would have no trade value.  

Most likely outcome is that Freeman gets released by the Falcons after Jun 1.

Edited October 7 by JeffAtl

[since68andcounting 3,412]

13 minutes ago, falcons007 said:

Lol. I agree on Freeman but Tru was the only player that looked decent in secondary. There is long list of players before Tru. I would start with firing DC right away.

Tru was beaten deep on the TD that drove the nail in the coffin.

[falcons007 18,158]

Just now, since68andcounting said:

Tru was beaten deep on the TD that drove the nail in the coffin.

It was trick play, actually great play call to sell the run and throw. 

[Sun Tzu 7 11,854]

@ChickenBiscuit

If you’re taking that approach.

Just cut the players.  Dead money is the same either way and you keep the picks

[Atlantafan21 6,533]

25 minutes ago, since68andcounting said:

Tru was beaten deep on the TD that drove the nail in the coffin.

That was definitely bad, but in defense of Tru, he had the initial route covered. Then Will Fuller dropped a free style on him and busted the coverage. 

[EddieK 2,326]

This isn't the NBA or MLB, teams aren't taking on those contracts with a 5th/6th round pick. They're sunk costs at this point.

[FalconFanSince1969 9,626]

12 minutes ago, EddieK said:

This isn't the NBA or MLB, teams aren't taking on those contracts with a 5th/6th round pick. They're sunk costs at this point.

The Browns did it with osweiler and got a 3rd rounder I think? So it has been done. Very rarely tho

[schwarzenegger321 2,526]

I would go further and trade every player with value over 30.  Build your team around Grady, d Jones, Ridley, hooper and our two new Olineman.  Everyone else, bye, bye

[ChickenBiscuit 5,233]

4 minutes ago, schwarzenegger321 said:

I would go further and trade every player with value over 30.  Build your team around Grady, d Jones, Ridley, hooper and our two new Olineman.  Everyone else, bye, bye

Man, I'd be so excited with a full rebuild but I don't think AB would be down for it. He's 77 years old and wants a ring sooner than later. He's been at it for some time now.

[schwarzenegger321 2,526]

1 minute ago, ChickenBiscuit said:

Man, I'd be so excited with a full rebuild but I don't think AB would be down for it. He's 77 years old and wants a ring sooner than later. He's been at it for some time now.

I never thought I would want a full rebuild but after today.  I really think that is what we need.  Quinn is in way over his head.  We need a coach with GM powers.  I love Ryan and Julio but Ryan has so many changes it is wearing on him.  Koetter is an idiot running an outdated scheme.  Ryan is trying his best but I just think he is done.  Julio needs to be on a team that can improvise.  I would see if KC would trade a first for him, or the Seahawks.  By Mack, by Vick, bye Beasley bye Matthews.  Take the picks you can get and go get a offensive line that can move the pile and find a six one, 230 pound back that can run hard down hill.  Find a decent mobile QBs and some 2 or third rd receivers to compliment Ridley and Hooper and spend everything else on defense.

[quotemokc 3,221]

Why we would trade our best OL in Matthews?

[ChickenBiscuit 5,233]

1 minute ago, schwarzenegger321 said:

I never thought I would want a full rebuild but after today.  I really think that is what we need.  Quinn is in way over his head.  We need a coach with GM powers.  I love Ryan and Julio but Ryan has so many changes it is wearing on him.  Koetter is an idiot running an outdated scheme.  Ryan is trying his best but I just think he is done.  Julio needs to be on a team that can improvise.  I would see if KC would trade a first for him, or the Seahawks.  By Mack, by Vick, bye Beasley bye Matthews.  Take the picks you can get and go get a offensive line that can move the pile and find a six one, 230 pound back that can run hard down hill.  Find a decent mobile QBs and some 2 or third rd receivers to compliment Ridley and Hooper and spend everything else on defense.

Julio isn't winning a Super Bowl in Atlanta. He should've gotten a ring when he made that circus catch on the last drive but we ****** it up. By the time we have a team capable, he's going to be upwards of 33 and on the decline. Ryan will be 36 in 2021.

As tragic an ending as it would be for their stories in Atlanta, I'd straight up rather trade them to teams worth a **** than squander their few prime years they have left.

[ChickenBiscuit 5,233]

1 minute ago, quotemokc said:

Why we would trade our best OL in Matthews?

Yeah, he's apart of the core IMO. Even in full rebuild mode, you would want to protect your QB. We defend Ryan tooth and nail because "QBs are rare" but so are good LTs. The guy gets penalized a fair amount, but he's competent and still has a lot of gas left in the tank.

[schwarzenegger321 2,526]

Just now, ChickenBiscuit said:

Julio isn't winning a Super Bowl in Atlanta. He should've gotten a ring when he made that circus catch on the last drive but we ****** it up. By the time we have a team capable, he's going to be upwards of 33 and on the decline. Ryan will be 36 in 2021.

As tragic an ending as it would be for their stories in Atlanta, I'd straight up rather trade them to teams worth a **** than squander their few prime years they have left.

Yeah, I love those guys but their not going to win anything here and the sad fact is we could get first rounders for them today.  But it’s the falcons, we will run them into the ground for nothing and have nothing in return.

[schwarzenegger321 2,526]

1 minute ago, ChickenBiscuit said:

Yeah, he's apart of the core IMO. Even in full rebuild mode, you would want to protect your QB. We defend Ryan tooth and nail because "QBs are rare" but so are good LTs. The guy gets penalized a fair amount, but he's competent and still has a lot of gas left in the tank.

Yeah, maybe keep Matthews.  I’m not thrilled with his performance this year but I think a lot of that is the **** scheme we are running.  He is still relatively young.

[Knight of God 46,765]

Based on the style of defense it isn’t on Trufant. Based on the style of offense it isn’t on Freeman.

[TXAintsHater 27]

Friendly advice from a DAL fan: Try and trade Takk before his value crashes and burns, a la Taco Charlton. Looks like he could potentially be a BIG problem in the locker room, as he clearly appears unhappy, there were warning signs present with Taco for a while. At least Takk has shown flashes, and I can see a contender desperate for DL help biting. Doesn't look like he has any desire or passion. At this point, pile up picks and tank for good draft position. Completely rebuild the DL (while obviously keeping Grady). 

[stizz 4,186]

We absolutely should jump the Jalen Ramsey potential trade by diluting the market with Trufant. Call Philly or KC immediately and see what mid rounder they'd part with.

[ATLSlobberKnockers 5,749]

5 hours ago, ChickenBiscuit said:

There is absolutely no reason for a new coach to be dealing with two mediocre players on top-money contracts. Even if we have to give away a 5th and next years 6th or some ****, we should do it just to get rid of the cap hit. 

Seriously, we have way too many guys that have overstayed their visits and are riding off of past glory alone. Trufant isn't the answer and he ain't worth the money we're paying him and Freeman is just a drive killer at this point.

If we finish with a top 5ish pick, then we should just find a way to get rid of them. They're terrible and are soaking up valuable resources. They don't need to be on this roster.

Ever heard of dead cap?