FalconsIn2012 35,705 Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 And I can’t say I blame him. The All 22 of the Titans converting on 3rd & 15 is criminal. Do we even practice tackling? DriveHomeSafelyAtlantaWins, ChickenBiscuit, slick0ne and 6 others 9 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MoFalconsFan56 4,293 Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 When don’t teams convert 3rd and long on ya? Like seriously? I’m starting to loathe this team. DriveHomeSafelyAtlantaWins, PokerSteve and ratesforless 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
falconsd56 26,507 Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 I like Baldy but the logic is flawed. The tackling was indeed horrible but the concept is not.......on third and long it is not uncommon for teams to play the stick coverage.....if the guys tackle the way they should then it is a stop.....which is exactly what the concept is about. The concept was sound but the execution was flawed. JDaveG, Francis York Morgan and cb5639 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HEIST 5,268 Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 Honestly yeah it's soft, give up the catch whatever but when I was watching that live I fully expected him to be stopped short. The players just blew it. JDaveG, Francis York Morgan and DriveHomeSafelyAtlantaWins 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sun Tzu 7 13,953 Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 This play sums up the defense perfectly. So so concept paired with ****** execution Vandy and Flying Falcon 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KRUNKuno 9,371 Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 47 minutes ago, falconsd56 said: I like Baldy but the logic is flawed. The tackling was indeed horrible but the concept is not.......on third and long it is not uncommon for teams to play the stick coverage.....if the guys tackle the way they should then it is a stop.....which is exactly what the concept is about. The concept was sound but the execution was flawed. The concept is flawed through the roof. 3rd and 15 doesn’t mean go into Hail Mary prevent defense. The concept is even further flawed when you obviously don’t have the talent to run it properly. Flying Falcon, Zzzzz, slick0ne and 6 others 9 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ovie_Lover 29,812 Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 1 minute ago, KRUNKuno said: The concept is flawed through the roof. 3rd and 15 doesn’t mean go into Hail Mary prevent defense. The concept is even further flawed when you obviously don’t have the talent to run it properly. Do you watch any other teams? Other teams do the exact same thing lol. The titans did it that very game. falconsd56, Francis York Morgan and JDaveG 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KRUNKuno 9,371 Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 2 minutes ago, Ovie_Lover said: Do you watch any other teams? Other teams do the exact same thing lol. The titans did it that very game. I know very well that other teams do this. That doesn’t make it any less of a flawed concept. It’s simply a difference in philosophy. Flying Falcon, sdogg and Vandy 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ovie_Lover 29,812 Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 1 minute ago, KRUNKuno said: I know very well that other teams do this. That doesn’t make it any less of a flawed concept. It’s simply a difference in philosophy. Give up a throw underneath, if you do it well they punt. This is like saying teams who throw on third and long are flawed. JDaveG 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KRUNKuno 9,371 Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 Just now, Ovie_Lover said: Give up a throw underneath, if you do it well they punt. This is like saying teams who throw on third and long are flawed. You’re making my point. It’s a difference in philosophy. We have a difference in philosophy. Obviously offense wants to keep the ball so they will call whatever play gives them the best shot at doing so. Just because the defense is out there to prevent the offense from converting a first down doesn’t mean that you have to play prevent defense. Who’s to say that sending pressure wouldn’t be a more viable option? Many teams send pressure in those situations instead of dropping 20 yards off the ball. Difference in philosophy. And why...knowing our fantastic penchant for tackling (purple)..even put our players in that position? Jerz #GurleySZN, Vandy, NeonDeion and 4 others 7 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ThemDarnFalconsBoy! 305 Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 (edited) Well, our "Baldy" better fix it. Blaming the players won't continue to work when he's the coach who's supposed to lead them and correct their mistakes, or adjust the system to what the product the players are putting on the field, not what worked with the Legion of Boom. Edited October 2, 2019 by ThemDarnFalconsBoy! fan since 1968 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sun Tzu 7 13,953 Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 16 minutes ago, Ovie_Lover said: Give up a throw underneath, if you do it well they punt. This is like saying teams who throw on third and long are flawed. The concept is one thing. Here’s the problem. You don’t know if it’s play design or execution. I hate the spacing on the play. You give up a quick pass of what 13 yards? The pressure has no chance to get there and it’s an easy pitch and catch. I really hate this call especially since they have 6 guys covering 4 people and they’re still giving up a 13 yard quick strike. Vandy, NeonDeion, Jerz #GurleySZN and 7 others 10 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mtldirtybird 1,236 Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 5 hours ago, mtldirtybird said: https://twitter.com/BaldyNFL/status/1179126652007268352?s=20 Baldinger says it's due to concept! Same for offense for sure, DK has been awful. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tldr 404 Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 Hate to say it but Debo is soft as ****. He hates contact and when the leader of your defense is soft, your defense is soft. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mtldirtybird 1,236 Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 15 minutes ago, ThemDarnFalconsBoy! said: Well "Baldy" better fix it. Blaming the players won't continue to work when he's the coach who's supposed to lead them and correct their mistakes, or adjust the system to what the product the players are putting on the field, not what worked with the Legion of Boom. Baldy isn't the coach lollllll He is Brian Baldinger...You really thought Dan Quinn tweeted this and called himself Badly? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shc 2,276 Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 14 minutes ago, KRUNKuno said: Many teams send pressure in those situations instead of dropping 20 yards off the ball. Difference in philosophy For us, sending pressure would have been a sure fire way for them to convert. To send pressure, one must actually be able to create pressure. JDaveG 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ThemDarnFalconsBoy! 305 Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 1 minute ago, mtldirtybird said: Baldy isn't the coach lollllll He is Brian Baldinger...You really thought Dan Quinn tweeted this and called himself Badly? "Baldy" (Quinn) is our coach, and he said similar things as Baldy and blamed the players. falconsd56, JeffAtl and NeonDeion 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mattyicefalcon 4,577 Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 1 hour ago, FalconsIn2020 said: And I can’t say I blame him. The All 22 of the Titans converting on 3rd & 15 is criminal. Do we even practice tackling? Dan Quinn should and must be FIRED!! OVERRATED D.C! who just conned us! Flying Falcon 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mattyicefalcon 4,577 Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 16 minutes ago, Sun Tzu 7 said: The concept is one thing. Here’s the problem. You don’t know if it’s play design or execution. I hate the spacing on the play. You give up a quick pass of what 13 yards? The pressure has no chance to get there and it’s an easy pitch and catch. I really hate this call especially since they have 6 guys covering 4 people and they’re still giving up a 13 yard quick strike. My 10 year old called it....right when he saw the sequence of how defense was lined up prior to snap with HUUUUUGE crater up in middle...he goes hes gonna throw right up middle for easy 1st down conversion! & I effin broke my remote when it happened..... I swear I dont know if this **** is deliberate to tank this year or its Bob Suttons bad karma from Chiefs causing this. Flying Falcon 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mattyicefalcon 4,577 Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 1 hour ago, falconsd56 said: I like Baldy but the logic is flawed. The tackling was indeed horrible but the concept is not.......on third and long it is not uncommon for teams to play the stick coverage.....if the guys tackle the way they should then it is a stop.....which is exactly what the concept is about. The concept was sound but the execution was flawed. Saints, Patriots, Dallas, Bears none of these teams will let you today give you that much real estate. That's just bollocks! I dont care who you playing against.....these are pro athletes and when they get open real estate with back against their wall. You be ****ed they gonna nail your defense every single snap!! Dan Quinn has misled all of us....Manuel was scape goat. This guy was relevant was because of Pete Carroll and player personnels in Seahawks. vitaman, Vandy, DriveHomeSafelyAtlantaWins and 4 others 7 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
falconsd56 26,507 Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 56 minutes ago, Sun Tzu 7 said: The concept is one thing. Here’s the problem. You don’t know if it’s play design or execution. I hate the spacing on the play. You give up a quick pass of what 13 yards? The pressure has no chance to get there and it’s an easy pitch and catch. I really hate this call especially since they have 6 guys covering 4 people and they’re still giving up a 13 yard quick strike. It is clear it is execution. Quinn said someone did not play up and got too much depth.....regardless of that if the inital tackle ( or the second tackle attempt) is made the titans are stopped......that is clear execution. Domed Outter, JDaveG and capologist 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KRUNKuno 9,371 Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 47 minutes ago, shc said: For us, sending pressure would have been a sure fire way for them to convert. To send pressure, one must actually be able to create pressure. Confucius also says... To play off ball, one must actually be able to tackle The Falcons Conundrum shc, Flying Falcon, Vandy and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fan since 1968 151 Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 (edited) I thought our "rugby tackling" was supposed to be the wave of the future. Edited October 2, 2019 by fan since 1968 Flying Falcon and DriveHomeSafelyAtlantaWins 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Vandy 39,758 Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 5 hours ago, Sun Tzu 7 said: The concept is one thing. Here’s the problem. You don’t know if it’s play design or execution. I hate the spacing on the play. You give up a quick pass of what 13 yards? The pressure has no chance to get there and it’s an easy pitch and catch. I really hate this call especially since they have 6 guys covering 4 people and they’re still giving up a 13 yard quick strike. Quinn’s defense has been allowing that play for 4+ years. Poor tacking, passive defense has become his signature in ATL. Flying Falcon 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Vandy 39,758 Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 5 hours ago, tldr said: Hate to say it but Debo is soft as ****. He hates contact and when the leader of your defense is soft, your defense is soft. He was ‘soft’ on that play, for sure. Jerz #GurleySZN, slick0ne and Flying Falcon 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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